IOS 8 RAW Support - Photos Resized

Can anyone else confirm this possible bug?
Importing JPG+RAW files using the Camera Connector on iOS 8 resizes the RAW files to the exact same file size as the JPG.
This ends up being about a 50% reduction in RAW file size.
At this point I have no idea how the photos are affected - they look similar in the Photos App, however when transferred to a network drive they are clearly reduced in size.
Anyone else seeing this?

Can't seem to delete or edit my previous response, so just disregard it. After further investigation, the following is more accurate.
I am experiencing exactly the same thing, which leads me to suspect you are also exporting files to Dropbox using PhotosInfoPro. iOS 8 has broken this app, and several others, where RAW+jpg bundles are concerned. When exported, the RAW+jpg bundle winds up the same size as the jpg alone because IT IS the jpg alone (albeit with a different file extension). The RAW sensor data just ain't there. So all those "RAW" files you have been backing up to Dropbox since the advent of iOS 8 aren't RAW files at all. They're just jpegs in disguise. I just figured this out today (via experiments too lengthy to detail here) and I'm ready to throttle someone. Many of my RAW images, which I deleted from the camera cards and from my iPad because I thought they were safely stored in Dropbox, are now simply gone.
The good news - if there is any good news at all in this mess - is that the RAW data is actually still there in the RAW+jpg files you still have in the Photo app on your iPad. iOS broke both PhotosInfoPro and Photogene, but PhotoRaw is still able to read and decode the RAW data. So it's definitely there. But trying to transfer it to cloud backup buggers it. I've tried several methods with both Dropbox and Google Drive. Export a RAW+jpg pair to the cloud and import it back to the iPad, and PhotoRaw can't deal with it. It doesn't even recognize it as either a RAW file or a jpg.
Bottom line? It's totally hosed up. Just another thing that was working fine that iOS 8 has now broken.

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Yes upgraded from 1.5.6 to 2.0 and now 2.1.2
If an upgrade, did you move an old aperture library or did you export all of your pictures as projects and re-import them to a clean aperture library as I did?
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Btw, I have D70 as well and have no issue with the nef files from that camera as well.
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