IOS 8 Shared Photos Stored Twice on Devices?

I have an iPhone 5 and an iPad Air, both with iOS 8.1.2 installed, and both using the iCloud Photo Library Beta feature. I've been taking photos on my phone as I normally would, and I love that they're all automatically on the iPad. I've also been sharing pictures of our new puppy with family, and have suddenly noticed that the space on my two devices is quickly depleting.
From what I can tell, looking at my photo libraries, it seems to me that the photos I've shared are actually being stored twice on my devices, once in the iCloud Photo Library, and once in the shared album. Is this the intended functionality? If that's the case, it seems rather short sighted. Is there some way to avoid this? Can't iCloud see that the metadata is the same for the pictures, and just store one version on the devices?
Is there another way to share the pictures via iOS and not have this duplication take place?

Now I have no idea what is stored where...Are the photos automatically removed from the device after they are pushed to the photo stream?
The photos you took with your device or saved to your device are stored on the device, and photos shared to the photo stream will stay on your device as well.
Now the only clue, if a photo is locally stored, is if you can edit it. Wait for the next iOS release 8.1. Things may change.
See this on how to access the photos: Get help finding your Photos in iOS 8

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iPad (not IOS 6 compatible)
Received an invite for IOS 6 Shared Photo Stream.
iPad is setup for iCould and Photo Stream.
Cannot see shared Photo Stream.
Same problem in Windows Based PC and Mac
No problem in iPhone
What is the secret?

The iPhoto for iOS forum is here
https://discussions.apple.com/community/app_store/iphoto_for_ios
Regards
TD

Shared Photo Streams pushed to device over cellular data

Hi,
I created today three shared photo streams in iPhoto and all of a sudden my iPhone started getting very hot and battery being drained quickly (it's an oldish 3GS, and the battery level was decreasing even though the iPhone was connected to the charger...).
In a nutshell: it seems that whilst data from the "ordinary" Photo Stream are uploaded/downloaded only when the device is connected to a wi-fi netwrok, if you have shared Photo Streams enabled on a iOS 6 device, picture data in these photo streams are "pushed" to the device also over cellular data, regardless of any other setting.
Apart draining the battery very fast, this may lead to using inadvertently a lot of data traffic in your data plan.
Did anyone notice a similar behavior and find out how to prevent it, apart disabling Shared Photo Streams alltogether, of course, i.e. did anyone find a a way to ensure shared photo streams are pushed to the device only under wi-fi?
cheers
-gianpiero

I suppose you could disable Shared Photo Steam while you are at cellular network and enable it again when you are at a wi-fi environment. In Settings>iCloud>Photo Stream> turn Shared Photo Stream to Off.
The pop up warning tells you that this will delete all shared photos from your device. What it doesn't say is, since shared photo stream remains stored in iCloud, all you shared and shared with you photo streams will be push back to your device once you enable Shared Photo Steam in wi-fi. The downside of course is if you have a lot of photos in your shared photo steams, it will take some time to download them. But at least you know for sure your cellular data is not affected.
Btw, Shared Photo Steams doesn't count towards iCloud storage, just like Photo Steams. Maybe That's why turning off iCloud document doesn't affect shared photo steams.
See also:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4858

Shared photo streams when changing devices

My daughter and I are swapping iPhone 5's (black & white). I am curious what will happen to my photo streams and shared photo streams? I am backing up via iCloud. Will they be on our new devices after we restore or will we lose all of them. Would the contents of the restore be any different if I backup/restore with iTunes?

Welcome to the Apple Community bgl.
Photos in photo stream...
You can log into your iCloud account and enable photo stream to see your photo stream photos.
Photostream in the cloud only keeps photos from the last 30 days (subject to a 1,000 photo limit). When photostream syncs the photos to your device they will stay there (subject to a 1,000 photo limit) until deleted, which means you may well have more photos in your photostream album on your device than there are in photostream in the cloud.
The consequence of this is that if you turn photostream off and on again on your device (or enable it for the first time), it will only be populated with photos from the last 30 days, which may not be all the photos that were previously in the photostream album on that device.
Photos in the camera roll...
If you kept a back up of your device you can use it to restore to a replacement device, this will restore all of the photos in your camera roll and isn't time limited.
Being able to back up to the cloud can be very useful, especially if you don't have access to a computer or have infrequent access to one, however unless you specifically need to use iCloud for back up, you will find backing up to iTunes significantly more convenient and possibly more reliable.

My iPad mini, can only access camera roll photos. When posting on facebook. I can not access shared photos from my apple devices.

problem with iPad mini and iPhone 5c and Facebook app. I can only access camera roll, when posting photos, I can not see shared photos. Which I could before the previous 3 updates. I did speak to Apple support but they said Facebook was behind. i think over 6 months later I still have the same problem!

Thank you. Do you have any idea about the 5c, which is only 2 weeks old. Before this I had an iPhone 4, and you could choose which collection you wanted to post from,
but my 5c is also only showing camera roll, pehich is rather annoying to say the least!

HT4858 My iCloud stopped sharing photos with my other devices. Im in wifi and settings are the same. any advice?

Why would my iphone 5 stop sharing with my ipad 2 on the cloud with my photos. they havent shared in 3 days any photos

You may have to save any photos that are not in your camera roll to your camera roll on both devices, then turn photo stream off, and (after a few seconds) back on to get things working again. (If you don't save them to your camera roll, you will lose photos older than 30 days as older photo stream photos are no longer in iCloud.)

Max # of pictures in a shared photo stream - Data usage?

Is there a limited number of pictures you can put into a shared photo stream. I know with the regular its 1k, is that the limit for the shared ones as well. Or can I create a photo stream with my entire photo library and have it all backed up on icloud.
Seperately how much data does shared photo streams use. Is it essentially downloading/uploading every photo to each device even over cellular connections. Its not a huge deal, but I'd rather not use up my data because a friend dropped 500 pictures of their dog into a shared stream. (But I do like dogs) Also does it take up space on your phone or is it all just held at the cloud level and you are essentially downloading it each time you look at it?

According to Apple's documentation, there's no limit (I still find that hard to accept, but they have said so). You mention using is as a backup - NEVER rely on icloud for backing up photos, ALWAYS sync then to a computer for safekeeping and storage, as you would save photos from a camera. Too many users have lost photos performing restores from an icloud backup.
Apple's docs indicate that shared photo streams do not count towards your icloud storage limit (also hard to believe, but there you go). Friends cannot add photos to your stream, they can only make comments.
icloud stores the photos and downloads them individually when you tap on a thumbnail pic. Note that you have no control over the sorted appearance of the photos.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/20/ios-6-shared-photo-streams/
http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/#photostream

Shared photo stream option missing iphoto 11

In Iphoto / preferences there is a missing option to check
Shared photo streams.
Iphoto 11 - upgrade
OSX 10.7.5
Anyone know how to resolve ?

Upgrade your OS - shared PhotoStream requires OS X version 10.8.2 or later and iPhoto '11 version 9.4 or newer and IOS 6.0 or later
What do I need to use Photo Stream?
To use Photo Stream, including Shared Photo Streams, you need an iCloud account, compatible devices, and up-to-date software:
iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 6.0 or later
Mac with OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.2 or later and iPhoto 9.4 or Aperture 3.4 or later
PC with Windows 8, Windows 7, or Windows Vista (Service Pack 2) and the iCloud Control Panel 2.1 or later for Windows
Apple TV (2nd generation) with Software Update 5.1 or later
You can still use Photo Stream without Shared Photo Streams if your devices meet these requirements:
iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 5.1 or later
Mac with OS X Lion v10.7.5 or later and iPhoto 9.2.2 or Aperture 3.2.3 or later
PC with Windows 7 or Windows Vista (Service Pack 2) and the iCloud Control Panel v2.0 or later for Windows
Apple TV (2nd generation) with Software Update 5.0 or later
For complete iCloud setup instructions, visit How to set up iCloud.
LN

What is shared photo stream data shown under in iTunes?

Is data from shared photo streams on my iPhone shown under the "Photos" or the "Other" category in iTunes? I'm trying to figure out why my "other" category has gotten huge. I know that this may be any number of acutal issues, and that there are forums for those, but I have recently added some large shared photo streams and am wondering if that could be it. I have been unable to find the answer to this question already on the forum.
Anyone know?

According to Apple's documentation, there's no limit (I still find that hard to accept, but they have said so). You mention using is as a backup - NEVER rely on icloud for backing up photos, ALWAYS sync then to a computer for safekeeping and storage, as you would save photos from a camera. Too many users have lost photos performing restores from an icloud backup.
Apple's docs indicate that shared photo streams do not count towards your icloud storage limit (also hard to believe, but there you go). Friends cannot add photos to your stream, they can only make comments.
icloud stores the photos and downloads them individually when you tap on a thumbnail pic. Note that you have no control over the sorted appearance of the photos.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/20/ios-6-shared-photo-streams/
http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/#photostream

How can I get my photos stored on iPad back if I do not own iOS device anymore?

Hi,
I need to get my photos stored on iPad back.
I do not own iOS device anymore.
I think I have been synced the photos with the cloud but not sure. The same with updating to iOS5. It was iPad 2.
I have installed the iCloud for Windows, but do not see the photos downloaded back to my windows notebook. Maybe I should turn on syncing somehow or it should start automatically after I run iClpud app and set photo syncing option on?
If it's not help, do you have any other ideas?
For example, could it be helpful if I try to get someones else iPad and login to app store with my account to see my old photo?
Thanks.

In iTunes I see I hade a backup in Dec'11, so I gues I had used iCloud. Any ideas why my photos are not downloading back via iCloud for Windows?

Unable to add additional photos to shared photo stream, not updating on iOS devices either.

I am sharing photos from a vacation with family and I am not able to add additional photos to the photo stream. I set it up in iPhoto on my Mac. I think it originally tapped out for some reason because I hit a daily limit for number of photos uploaded. I had about 440 photos in the photo stream. I went and deleted some photos and now have 350 but the iOS devices haven't dropped down to that number yet. When I manually drag a new photo to add to the photo stream it doesn't add. Any thoughts on how to correct?

I turned off photo sharing in iphoto and then turned it back on and that resolved the issue.

I've updated to iOS 7 on various devices but non of them will play videos that I've uploaded to shared photo streams. They play on the device I've uploaded them with but not on any of my other devices on anybody I've shared with.

I've updated to iOS 7 on various devices but non of them will play videos that I've uploaded to shared photo streams. They play on the device I've uploaded them with but not on any of my other devices on anybody I've shared with.

You would lose photo stream photos older than 30 days from your my photo stream folder. Tto keep them save them to the camera roll first. To do this in iOS 7, open your my photo stream alburm, tap Select, tap the photos, tap the share icon on the lower left, then tap Save to Camera Roll.
The photo streams from others should reappear when you turn it back on. Worst case, the owners of the shared photo streams would have to re-invite you.

How do I consolidate all this at this point: Icloud Drive, Itunes Match, Local iTunes Library, Local iPhoto, Local Aperture, Photo stream, Familly sharing, sharing on iOS, music sharing on iOS, music sharing on mac etc.

I am trying to grasp all the possibilities for consolidating my stuff and my family's stuff from multiple devices and multiple accounts from multiple sources but I cant.
I have been reading many instructions and FAQ regarding iCloud Drive, iCloud Sharing, iTunes Match, Familly Sharing, file size limitations on iCloud Drive, app sharing on iOS, Backup vs Sync vs cloud sharing, storing iWork documents on iCloud drive, storing iTunes library on iCloud Drive, storing iPhoto library on iCloud Drive, storing Aperture library on the iCloud, the Photos app on iOS with iCloud and many others.... but I feel like I need a systems admin course from apple to manage all of it.
This is what I and my family currently have:
Hardware: Multiple iPhones, Multiple Macs, Apple TV (with hard drive), Multiple iPads.
Operating systems: Everything is upgraded to the latest iOS and Yosemite.
Libraries:
1) Multiple iTunes Libraries locally stored on Macs and IPhones with lossless CD music and iTunes purchased music. What I want to do:
a) Have a main family shared iTunes library across ALL devices that contains our Lossless music and purchased music. so that it can be played across ALL devices. With the ability to have private music for each individual (Not shared).
b) Purchase new music and add it to the family share or purchase music and make it private (Not shared).
2) Multiple iPhoto Libraries macs (With photo stream from iPhones) and ONE Aperture Library on my mac. What I want to do:
a) Have a main family shared photo library that every one can deposit to and view.
b) Store individual iPhoto libraries on iCloud Drive(s)? So that everyone can have their own library and edit it across THEIR devices.
c) Store and use my Aperture Library on iCloud Drive?
Other documents:
iWork files, PDFs etc. What I want to do:
a) Have a main family shared area (on iCloud Drive i suppose) where we can share documents.
b) Sync private documents across ALL individuals devices (Available locally and on iCloud).
c) Store private documents (One instance) on iCloud drive and make them available on ALL individuals devices.
d) Backup of local documents?
Apps:
iOS apps:
a) Share purchased apps?
b) Not share private apps.
Storage:
What do I purchase to accomplish the above:
a) iCloud storage for everyone?
b) iTunes Match for everyone?
c) All of the above?
Conclusion:
It would be great for Apple to explain all this with all the options in one concise document instead of hunting down individual documents and sections all over the place.
Thank you for your help.

Hey there!
You and I are data soulmates. I have been having this trouble for a while and have yet to get my head around it. Our problem is that we've cycled through multiple macs and the "home" or "host" for all the stuff that's now been moved or moving to the Cloud is very scattered. It drives me crazy... almost to the point where I'm thinking about starting a brand-new iCloud account and beginning from scratch.
If you have any experiences or recommendations you could share about your strategy, I would love to hear it.

HT5903 Are photos stored in Shared Photo Streams in full quality?

Does anyone know whether photos uploaded to Shared Photo Streams are stored in full (original) quality?
I'm interested to know whether Photo Streams can be relied upon for backing up photo collections (i.e. they can be downloaded again in original quality in case of loss from the computer/phone/iPad they were taken with), or whether it is only really for sharing.
Thanks

tomwood1981 wrote:
Does anyone know whether photos uploaded to Shared Photo Streams are stored in full (original) quality?
No. Not for shared streams
I'm interested to know whether Photo Streams can be relied upon for backing up photo collections (i.e. they can be downloaded again in original quality in case of loss from the computer/phone/iPad they were taken with), or whether it is only really for sharing.
My photo stream keeps photos at full quality in the cloud, although it only syncs lower resolution photos to an iOS device, but full resolution to your computer.

Shared Stream not showing all shared photos on all devices

So, we have setup a shared stream in Photos to share family moments. The main issue we are experiencing is that on my iPhone I am not able to see contributions from one family member, but on my iPad they show up. Both are iOS 7, and have been through all the troubleshooting steps though have not done the "turn off sharing, and delte all photos" step. Any ideas on why or how that would be happeing? Thanks!

You can apparently force ios6 devices to receive the subscriber contributed photos by turning off shared photo streaming and turning it back on again. It is under General Troubleshooting in the following link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4379
A similar workaround did not work with iPhoto 11.
To get around this, I've been re-sharing the subscriber contributed content and deleting the original from the stream. They show up, but not a very elegant solution.

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