IOS slb questions

Hi,
1. It is true that ip slb probe http is not working on 6509 without CSM card?
2. Did someone had tested how many IOS SLB client connections can support a 6509 with SUP1A /MSFC2 without CSM card?
Thanks,
Yuti

The Cisco CSM accommodates a wide range of common IP protocols?including TCP and User Datagram Protocol (UDP). Additionally, the Cisco CSM supports higher-level protocols, including HTTP, FTP, Telnet, Real Time Streaming Protocol (RTSP), Domain Name System (DNS), and Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP).
The Cisco CSM allows full regular expression pattern matching for policies based on URLs, cookies, and HTTP header fields. The Cisco CSM supports any URL or cookie format?allowing it to load balance existing Web content without requiring URL or cookie format changes.

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http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/netsol/ns377/c649/cdccont_0900aecd800eb95f.pdf
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I understand it's used to make sure the client's accounting information
goes to the correct real server, but I'm not sure how it really works
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b/ It also says "the client's IP address is added to the IOS SLB database..." - is this the client's framed IP that the ISP assigns to the customer???
c/ And what would be the optimum time to set the sticky timer to be?
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Hi, this may be a silly question but is there any problem with configuring IOS SLB on a 6509 which also has a FWSM module in it and the Servers being load balanced are behind the FWSM?

The only thing to consider is that by FWSM, you most likely will be running multiple VRFs on the switch and IOS-SLB has some limitations regarding VRF.
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In the paper http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/modules/ps2706/products_configuration_example09186a0080094066.shtml
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there are 2 ways to configure the csm.
You can use the same ios slb command and just tell the switch that there is a csm with the command 'ip slb mode'.
Or you can use the 'module contentswitching ' command.
If you use the first method, you can't use both a CSM and ios slb on the same switch.
If you use the second method, it is ok to have both ios slb and csm.
IOS SLB offers L4-7 loadbalancing solution.
Just be aware that as soon as you do L7 or do some nating, you poor performance with ios slb compare to a CSM.
One advantage of ios slb is the capacity to do radius loadbalancing [inspecting radius packet to identify framed ip, ...]
This is why in CMX solution we combine both ios slb and csm.
IOS SLB is used to loadbalance radius and the CSM is used to loadbalance the rest of the traffic.
Personally, I would say if you just need some vpn or firewall loadbalancing, ios slb is enough.
If you need HTTP or any other traffic wthe CSM is a better choice.
Regards,
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/modules/ps2706/products_qanda_item09186a0080092384.shtml
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IOS SLB dns probe

Hi,
I'm trying to configure a DNS probe using IOS SLB, but it's not working.
I followed the manual on how to configure a DNS probe, but it just doesn't make any sense.
When using DNS probes on an ACE, you give a hostname which the DNS server should resolve to a configured IP Address.and configure an ip address, which makes sense.
On the IOS SLB, it is not the case. Two variables can be configured:
Router(config-slb-probe)# address ip-address]
(Optional) Configures an IP address to which to send the Domain Name System (DNS) probe.
Router(config-slb-probe)# lookup [ip-address]
(Optional) Configures an IP address of a real server that a Domain Name System (DNS) server should supply in response to a domain name resolve request.
What am I missing. Could someone please clearify??
Tnx!

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I can't see this from the documentation, but as far as I can see the configuration commands on the switch are the same for IOS SLB and for the CSM. Does this mean that if you have an CSM which fails, the subset of functions supported by IOS SLB will be ?
I realise performance would be less and only 500 VIPs would be supported etc.
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Simon,
I do not think this is the case. If you look closely at the configuration you will see the command ip slb mode csm. This causes all SLB functions to be offloaded to the CSM. The default is ip slb mode rp which is IOS based. If the CSM fails then SLB will stop working. You will need to enter the command ip slb mode rp for it to work again.
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Cheers
Phil
Cheers
Phil

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Hi
I am revieiwing SLB options for my client - real server and client side access subnets terminate on common 6500s/Sup720s....intial requirement is small so IOS SLB looks like a possible fit as tactical (would require feature set upgrade)....any known issues?
If I go for CSS then I assume that I will need to use SLB-on-a-stick config and destination/source NAT given current access topology...right?...i.e. I do not weant to have to re-engineer/place layer 3 separation between client-side MSFC and server farms.

Gilles
Thanks for fast response....I assume this is 'dispatch mode' where dest IP remains constant/MAC is modified.
My deployement issue is further complicated as SLB may need to enconmpass real servers being in subnets on both local 6500/Sup720 access vlans and those on peer (OSPF) remote
6500/Sup720 access vlans.
It seems to me that to avoid re-IPing, the best approach is to use CSS on a stick and use source/dest NAT....side affect of this is all clients appearing to real servers on single source IP = SLB VIP. Do you agree?
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