IPad 2/3 - ICC Profile Recommendations

Since the iPad 2 and iPad 3 have different color gamuts (i.e. iPad 3 can display a wider range of hues and shades) is there a particular profile that's recommended when we're converting images for use in our books? I used to default to sRGB for the first two generations but wondering if Adobe RGB might be a smarter move for iPad 3 because of its enhanced gamut. Anyone tested this out in practice?

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Cost effectiveness now means being able to lock in component prices so that the retail price stays the same from version to version letting margins expand over time as contract and currency leveling kick in.
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What ICC profile is used in iBook author? Do the ibooks support ICC profiles?

What ICC profile is used in iBook author? Do the ibooks support ICC profiles?

While you can use various ICC recipes to craft a workflow and images that target iBA books, iOS does not support ICC profiles.
See Re: iPad 2/3 - ICC Profile Recommendations
And
Optimizing performance in your iBooks Author books [ support.apple.com/kb/HT5117 ]
Suggest jpeg for digital images...pngs otherwise. As always, be sure to test with your particular content on a device to insure in matches out

ICC Profiles: Does the iPad not recognise them?

Is the iPad not colour aware in the sense that it recognises and uses ICC profiles embedded in images?
Secondly, it's a great shame the display can not be calibrated. So much for portfolio display or any work that is colour sensitive.

I.didn't say anything about editing. The photo app is Apple app for displaying photos.
Somebody needs to write and app to calibrate the monitor. The problem with this is third party apps can't run in the background. So Apple would have to make it a system preference. They would be the one to make this happen.
You could write a feedback to Apple requesting this feature:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

Colour Calibration for 24" iMac and setting up an ICC profile

Hi,
Can anyone recommend a way for calibrating the display of a 24" iMac (not too expensive)? I will mainly be using Photoshop, Aperture and web browsing (I do not need for business, but like to have the best set up possible).
Also, on a similar note, can anyone suggest a cost effective way of getting an ICC profile for use with Photoshop (CS2) and Aperture for an HP Photosmart 3210 please?
Thanks

Hi Kevin
As your based in the UK feel free to contact me with regards to obtaining display profiles for your 24" iMac, and possibly output profiles for your printer.
We are hoping to add a 24" iMac (or should that be BigMac to our studio as a training machine and backup to our other Macs in the very near future. As soon as we get our machine it will only be a day or so before I get it profile and I would be quite willing to email you a copy of our screen profile free of charge for you to test, this should get you pretty good results.
As part of our business we carry out colour management training and that obviously includes creating colour profiles. We use a Gretag i1 Pro to calibrate and profile our screens to a very high level so I think it may be worth you giving me a call soon. Feel free to call me on 01773 717446 or email me at [email protected]
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ICC profiles needed

Hi, I give up. I want to follow this procedure as found on the HP website:
HP Printers - Using ICC Profiles for Color Photos in Adobe Photoshop. However, after two days of searching I have been unable to locate the HP ICC profiles for my printer, paper and ink type, all HP products. They are not currently listed in the drop down profiles of step 3 in the above article. Some older deskjet models are all that are there. I am looking for the ICC profiles for:
Printer: HP Photosmart C6380
Paper: HP Premium Plus Photo Paper Soft Glossy Q5450A
Ink: HP Vivera Inks.
Does anyone have a link to where they are located? Thank you!!
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Creating Custom ICC Profiles for Color Photos
   1.
      Select File , then Print with Preview . (Photoshop 6 and prior: select File , then Print .)
   2.
      Select the Show More Options check box, and Color Management from the drop-down menu.
   3.
      In the Profile menu, select Same as Source .
The printer driver must also be configured to properly use custom profiles. Use the steps below to configure the printer driver.
   1.
      Select File , Print , and then Properties , Color .
   2.
      Select Managed by application from the Color management menu.
   3.
      Click on the Paper/Quality tab and select the appropriate paper type from the Type is menu.
   4. Click OK , and then OK again to print.
    NOTE:     The paper type must be selected in the printer software even when creating a profile. Maximum ink volume limits are determined by the paper-type selection, not through the ICC profile.
With these settings, a print without any color management intervention from either the printer driver or the application will be produced. This print is suitable for measurement and profile creation
                    OR
Using ICC Profiles for Color Photos in Adobe Photoshop
   1.
      Select File , then Print with Preview . (For Photoshop 6 and prior select File , and then Print ).
   2.
      For Photoshop 7 and CS, in the Print with Preview dialog, select the Show More Options checkbox, and Color Management from the menu.
   3.
      In the Profile menu, select the profile that corresponds to the printer, paper type, and ink set.
   4.
      Set the ICC rendering intent in the Intent menu. Most users will want to use the Perceptual intent to give the most subjectively pleasing color reproduction.
   5.
      Checking the Use Black Point Compensation box is also recommended.
The printer driver must also be configured to properly use the profile. Use the steps below to configure the printer driver.
   1.
      Select File , Print , and then Properties , Color .
   2.
      Select Managed by application from the Color management menu.
   3.
      Click on the Paper/Quality tab and select the appropriate paper type from the Type is menu.
   4. Click OK , and then OK again to print.
    NOTE:     If you select an ICC profile for your printer under Print with Preview in Adobe Photoshop that selection will be retained, even when later using the Photoshop Print or Print one Copy functions instead of Print with Preview . If you want to return to using the default sRGB mode after using ICC profiles, you must go back into the Print with Preview menu and select either sRGB or Same as Source as your printer profile. If the profile setting in Photoshop is not consistent with the printer driver settings, wrong colors will result.
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Icc profiles, OS 10.6 & InDesign CS4

I have been using InDesign (various versions) for years with many icc profiles, some custom, some canned. I recently bought a MACPro with OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and the latest Adobe Creative Suite (CS4 Design Premium). Everything works fine with Photoshop, Illustrator and Acrobat. But with InDesign, I can no longer choose icc profiles for printing on my Epson Stylus Pro 4000. Does anyone have any suggestions that might make InDesign useful again? I reinstalled InDesign CS2 just to see if it could read the profiles using OSX 10.6 but to no avail. I still have my old MAC tower but I would prefer not to return to that.
RWW

rww0001* wrote:
Thought you might be interested in how Adobe support responded to my inquiry. Because the solution presented here worked, I am hesitant to redo the fix presented by Adobe. But your comments would be interesting.
FROM ADOBE:
We understand that your InDesign is not showing the icc profiles. We
have worked on your Issue and recommend you to follow the steps given
below :-
1. Please Login as Administrator before you start.
2. ReCreating InDesign Preference files.
a. Quit InDesign.
b. Drag the "Version 6.0" folder from Users/[user
name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe InDesign/ to the desktop.
c. Drag the "Version 6.0" folder from Users/[user
name]/Library/Caches/Adobe InDesign/ to the desktop.
d. Restart InDesign.
Anybody try this? Does it work.
Since I did a clean install partition and a clean install of CS4 and had the same behavior of the profiles not showing up, I seriously have my doubts about this. Seems like a canned answers from someone who has no idea what the issue even is.

Elements 7 (Trial) doesn't recognize ICC profiles in computer

I downloaded Elements 7 for a 30 day trial to see whether it does better than Elements 5 for my purposes. I have Windows XP. While trying to do a test print, in the Print Window I set Photoshop Manages Color under Color Handling. I then clicked the drop down menu for Printer Profile and that menu does not contain any of the ICC profiles in the Colors folder in my computer, but only has those profiles that must come with Elements 7. Do I need to do something to get this to work? Is it a problem with the trial version? Adobe Support will not answer questions over the phone for the trial version, although I asked. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Dear John - You graciously replied to our thread last week about ICC profile
list in Elements 7. We were wondering whether you could help with another
more general problem we're having. We have not been able to get what we see
on our monitor and what we get out of our printer to reasonably match - the
prints are always significantly darker than the monitor. It makes working
on Photoshop Elements virtually worthless, as we can't rely on getting out
what we see after making adjustments to our photos. We bought a Colormunki
to calibrate the monitor and create paper profiles, but that didn't solve
the problem and we have worked with the Colormunki people for weeks and
haven't made any progress. We have an Epson Stylus Photo R2400 printer and
a Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW monitor. We think, at this point, that the
monitor maybe the problem - apparently it is known for its excessive
brightness - as even with the calibration set for very low brightness, the
problem remains. Anyway, our question is whether you can recommend a
monitor more likely to give us a reliable match to the printer - what
photographers/photoshop users use?? alternatively, any ideas where we can
contact people who might be able to help???? Thanks in advance for your
help.

Icc Profile not working

Hi,
This is on a 2011 macbook pro with mountain lion. I have tried to use two new icc profiles, put them in:
library-colorsync-profiles-recommended
and while they work in preview, and illustrator, they will not work in photoshop. I go through the print dialog, with photoshop managing colors, select icc profile. Hit print, try to open pdf in preview, and it's all white (this only after blanks were printed out). I have tried, tested, and no luck.
Please help, thanks!

Ah-the driver is name is: mcpd-mac-pro9000ii-10_68_1-ea11.dmg
First thing I tried to do is delete and re-download new driver, but no luck.

Installing new icc profiles on an Imac using CS6

Can someone help, please, I am using CS6 on an Imac (new to mac) and I need to install some more icc profiles. I have tried unhiding the library/col sync/profiles folder and have installed them but cs6 print setup is still not showing them. I have also tried to drag them in to /library/Application Support/Adobe/ Colour/Profiles/recommended as well but still not showing up. Your assistance will be highly appreciated.

I should have said I am using Epson 3800 printer using mac OS X10.9.5 operating system.

Costco ICC profiles

Does anybody know how to install Costco ICC profiles in light room three

Sounds like you'd recommend 1) export directly from LR to JPEG using appropriate Costco ICC profile, but then 2) strip out the embedded profile - using some non-LR tool - because it would mess up Costco's printers. Am I understanding correctly?
Almost yeah. For most use I would actually recommend just using sRGB. The difference is not that large, but if you make larger prints for a critical audience, the best thing to do is to use the print panel. Set it up to output to jpeg and a custom size that corresponds to your final print size. Setup your layout (usually simply maximized) and set resolution to 300 ppi and output sharpening to standard matte or glossy depending on your output. Choose the appropriate costco profile as your output profile and select perceptual rendering. The latter is why I use the print panel for this. The export panel cannot do perceptual rendering and the result of perceptual is usually a lot better with the dry creek profiles as relative tends to make out-of-gamut areas appear posterized. Then I run the outputted jpegs through a little PS droplet that resaves without the profile attached. This is mostly just to save upload time. If I forget to do that, I get identical output, just takes longer to upload. Supposedly their poster printers that can do 20x30, do get messed up when you attach profiles, but I have not tested that myself. They do give absolutely superb output when using the dry creek profiles for those. It is hard to beat getting a 20x30 print on a fairly good Fuji paper using HP vivera inks for less than $10.
I knew Costco's printers can't read embedded profiles - but I thought that meant they always assumed your photos were in sRGB colorspace. And therefore your photos should only be exported using sRGB, otherwise they would attempt to convert & screw things up. Is this not the case? I know I've had pretty good results from Costco prints using sRGB exports.
The printers are tuned to approximate sRGΒ but they are not perfect. Costcos offers the dry creek profiles to get more accurate color and dry creek provides instructions here. They tell you to strip the profile:
Do not embed the profile in the saved file. Frontier, Noritsu, and Agfa printers ignore embedded profiles, so you are only using up disk space. Additionally, many versions of the Fuji Frontier PIC driver crash when given files with profiles embedded. In the File→Save As dialog box, uncheck the "Icc Profile:" box in the Color settings area.
In most cases, sRGB will work fine, but if tone and color are critical than certainly use the profiles. Even without soft proofing in Lightroom, you will get slightly better results. The main difference is the toning in the shadow areas in my opinion. They will be more consistent (i.e. less dark) with your display.

Pixma Pro-100, ICC Profiles, etc

I'll try to make a long story short. About 5 months ago I bought a Canon T3i camera. Didn't like the prints I got at department stores, bought a PIxma Pro-100. Did some more research, realized I need to calibrate my monitor, bought a Datacolor Spyder Pro 4.
My question(s) are about the software used to get the prints. I don't have PhotoShop, and I don't want to buy it. I have PaintShop Pro, but realize I can't use that. My computer is Win7. I don't know cameras, but I've been in IT for 30 years. I know computers.
I am not pleased with the prints I've gotten so far. The colors all look weak (for lack of a better word). Everything I've read about the Pro100 says the colors should be rich (saturated). Mine are not.
I first tried the software that came with my camera. Digital Photo Professional. It works with the Canon plugin, Print Studio Pro. It seems that it recognized, or loads, the ICC profiles for the Canon paper I use. It doesn't seem to recognize or give me the option to pick an ICC profile for my monitor.
I called Canon support. The guy I talked to recommended Easy-PhotoPrint EX software. Said it should have come on the CD with my Pixma. It did not. That software does not use the Canon plugin. And seems more limited. He said it works well with Canon cameras. Honestly, he seemed like he was BS'ing me the whole time. If you don't know the answer, it's ok to just say so, is my feeling.
Ok, it turned out to be a long story. Can someone help me? This printer I have does not measure up to everything I've read about it. I've spent a bunch of money to get good prints from my Canon camera. I don't have that, not even close. What do I need to do??
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The answer depends on how you are printing. If you use Canon Print Studio Pro it does all the appropriate adjustments after you pick the option in CPSP.
If you are printing from photo software there will generally be an option to either let the printer manage the printing or have the software manage printing. In the software managed printing option you would choose paper profiles in the softwarer and in the printer driver set color management to None.
Here is a good resource: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV7cqqladQ&feature=youtu.be
John Hoffman
Conway, NH
1D Mark IV, Rebel T5i, Pixma PRO-100, MX472

Washed out colors with Canon Pro9000 using ICC profiles

I recently bought a brand new Canon Pro9000 printer and have a problem getting acceptable results when using the supplied ICC profiles.
I believe I am doing everything by the book. First I select the correct ICC profile for the printer and the paper I am using in the Aperture print dialog, then I go into Print Setting and set the paper type in the Quality and Media section, as well as matching the print quality to the ICC profile.
The Canon driver I use (10.1.0.0) does not provide the option of explicitly turning off color management in the printer. If a choose a profile from the Aperture printing dialog and then go into "Printer Setting > Color Options" the Color Mode drop down menu is grayed out. After searching trough various discussion forums I can see that some people claim that color management is automatically turned off when selecting a profile, but I have not been able to get a confirmation on this.
The resulting print is quite disappointing, it is very bright and with washed out colors. I have tried quite a few different papers, including semi gloss and photo rag - all original Canon papers (of course using the matching profiles).
Using the default "System Managed" option on the Color Sync drop down menu produces great looking prints that very closely matches what I see on my display. My only take on them is that they are very slightly over saturated.
When I enable on screen proofing with the matching profile, I can see that the picture gets slightly brighter, but way less that what I get on the prints.
I have calibrated my display according to the suggestions from Bagelturf (http://www.bagelturf.com/files/694c5a88c7241f8f04c7cff33cde8e3e-560.php), which is in line with Apple´s recommendations in the Aperture documentation.
I have read trough discussion on similar problems, both here ("more color nasties" and "Printing problem since upgrading to Aperture 2") and at dpreview, but I have not been able to figure out this problem yet.
System configuration:
- MacBook Pro 2.4GHz
- Leopard 10.5.2
- Aperture 2.1
- Panasonic DMC-L1 camera (shooting RAW)
- Canon Pro9000
- Canon driver 10.1.0.0 (CUPS)
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Thomas
Sorry for posting this under the "Book" forum - mistake from my side
Message was edited by: tembla

Hi Thomas,
With my iP8500 I leave it on, so it appears to be specifically the behavior of the Pro9000. I did a little more testing last night as I recently re-calibrated my system, and have another method you can try. Instead of turning off "Black Point Compensation" which can leave photos with lots of shadow detail a bit too dark, open up the "Printer Settings" window and go to the color management options. The only thing you can change here is the brightness setting. Change it from Normal to Dark, leaving BPC turned on. I think you'll be pleased with the results. Good luck!

Help with ICC Profiles

I have downloaded and installed ICC profiles (in Library/ColorSync/Profiles) for several Hahnemuller papers. The ICC profile appears in the Aperture Print dialogue box under ColorSync Profile. But when I hit print and the Epson 2400 dialog box comes up I can't choose it under Presets or Media Type.
How do I get these profiles to appear in the print dialog box?
Thanks, Susan

the Hahnemuehle paper that you purchased should have a recommended setting for the media type. for instance, for the Photo Rag papers you want to set the media type to Epson Velvet Fine art. other papers (like the fine art pearl) use other media types. also, make sure you have the proper type of black in installed in the printer (matte black vs. photo black) for your paper type.
all of this information is detailed at the Hahnemuehle web site:
http://www.hahnemuehle.com/site/us/1724/epson-settings.html
good luck,
scott

Best ICC profile/display setting for ThinkPad T430

Hello everyone,
Any recommendations for the ICC profile I can use with my ThinkPad? While I managed to get rid of the blue color cast to some point using color corrections within display driver and updating the monitor driver itself, I wonder if anyone can suggest some ICC profiles? I have a basic HD display (1366x786). I am occasionally into photo and video editing and while I know this display is not perfect for such tasks, I would like to get maximum out of it.
Cheers and thanks,
Srdjan
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lenssd9, if you want to truly get rid of the blue cast then you should calibrate with a display calibrator. Barring that, if the laptop is the brightest object in your workspace then your eyes will adjust to the blue tone over time.
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SRGB or Blurb icc profile better for soft proofing prior to Book module?

As I understand it images destined for Blurb are converted by the Lr engine into sRGB behind the scenes. To achieve best chance of colour accuracy in the finished Blurb book, is it better to softproof using a sRGB profile or the icc profile* offered on the Blurb Support website. On the surface this icc profile is recommended (by them) for their Booksmart process. Anyone know if that is similar to the Lr Book module process? There is no mention of Lr anywhere on the Blurb color management pages.
It would be great to pin down the answer to this. I cannot find any recommendation for best work practice aimed at getting good colour reproduction in these books; and trial and error, whilst acceptable in making inkjet prints, is a very expensive route when applied to printing a Blurb book.
* And even then, as far as I can see, there is no method for differentiating between the Blurb papers. It is just one profile to fit all.

I tried using 'Export Book to PDF' in the LR Book module with 'Book' set to 'Blurb' and the PDF images are all tagged as sRGB profile and 8-bit color.
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If you set 'Book' to 'PDF' under 'Book Setting' you can use Adobe RGB profile, 300 ppi, and your own Sharpening selection, which as Andrew Rodney mentioned is a better choice. You can submit the LR Exported PDF at Blurb's 'PDF To Book' upload page and they will do the proper CMYK conversion on their end. The only issue is that the images are still exported in the LR Book module as 8-bit color JPEGs. This may cause banding with a wider gamut profile, but that should be apparent when reviewing the exported book PDF.
Here are some comments from Blurb concerning using Blurbs 'PDF to Book' workflow, which is similar to what I just described:
From Me:
My Workflow Details:
My objective is to process all images in LR4 and then export them as 300 dpi, ProPhoto RGB profile, 16 bit TIFF images for layout in InDesign using Blurb's InDesign plugin (Blurb Book Creator CS6 v2.0.2.34d8). I will soft proof the placed images inside InDesign using its 'Proof Colors' tool and the Blurb_ICC_Profile.icc profile. Once the InDesign layout is complete I will do the RGB to CMYK Blurb_ICC_Profile conversion during the export to PDF process using the Blurb PDF X-3 Export Preset v1-1.
Blurb's Resonse:
Response Via Email(David) - 07/18/2012
Using InDesign and our Blurb InDesign Plug-in does mean you're using the PDF to Book Workflow. This is because your InDesign files will ultimately be exported/uploaded as PDF files.
Regarding, "Once the InDesign layout is complete I would like to do the RGB to CMYK Blurb_ICC_Profile conversion during the export to PDF process":
Unfortunately, there is no option for this and it's actually unnecessary during the export process. Our printers convert and process all images as CMYK using the Blurb ICC Color Profile, so even if you upload/export them with an RGB color profile, they'll be converted to CMYK for the production process.
My Response:
Customer By Email - 07/19/2012 05:10 AM Thanks for the explanation David. It sounds like I can just upload the PDF file using my ProPhoto RGB profiled PDF, but I would prefer to do the conversion from ProPhoto RGB to Blurb ICC CMYK profile. This way I can see the results before uploading the file to Blurb. Can I use the Blurb PDF X-3 Export Preset v1-1 with Output > Color Conversion to Destination > Blurb CC profile, and then upload the PDF file myself? If so please advise where I should upload the file on the Blurb website.
Blurb's Response:
Response Via Email(David) - 07/20/2012 03:49 PM Hi Todd,
If you do end up exporting your PDFs with the workflow you're referring to, you can upload your files here:
http://www.blurb.com/make/pdf_to_book
IMHO there's no reason why Adobe and Blurb couldn't work together so ProPhoto RGB 16-bit images can be used in the book PDF that gets uploaded (or exported!) to Blurb's website. Blurb then handles the CMYK conversion using full-gamut 16-bit images and not clipped sRGB 8-bit images.

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