IPad 2 and Cannot Determine Location'!  Breach of Sales Legislation!

Given the iPads supposed attritributes and the apps that required 'location' - some of which I have downloaded - imagine my surprise (I am being polite) to discover that my iPad 2 - wifi only (delivered on Friday 13 May!!!!!) does no so such thing!  And yes - I have seen the forum stuff and about holding down the power key and using the red slider....... does not work!
In essence the iPad 2 is not fit for this particular attribute.  Apple?  More like sour apple!
When will this be fixed by an upgrade? Until such time as this is fixed and or an official statement rec'd from Apple all apps (inc; Apple apps and OS) requiring 'location' must be withdrawn from sale (as not 'fit for purpose') and in fact all iPad marketing material should include a caveat re 'location' - otherwise this is a clear breach of sales legislation!  As such all vendors are liable to financial penalties - especially as the problem is in the public domain.
I am not impressed!

Routers do not "report their location." The WiFi-only iPad relies on an online database of known WiFi hotspots and their locations. It looks at the SSID's of all available hotspots and their signal strengths to estimate its position. If there isn't enough data for a fix, it can't get one.
iPad: Understanding Location Services

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