IPhone 4 and Tiger 10.4

Hi all,
Just got an iPhone4 but I'm runnig Tiger 10.4.11 on a MacBook. It tell me it's not compatible, what the **** do I do? The upgrde to 10.5 is £132 on top of the phone cost.
I thought Apple was "future proof" and I can;t make this work without spending a lot of money and I just want to use the **** Phone....
Anyone out there that can help??
Cheers!

Hi ScottofDoom - Same problem here - Its a major draw back here's my story...
I'm based in the UK. I bought an iPhone 4 yesterday from an O2 store.
Firstly I synced my existing iPhone 3G to make sure all is backed up ready to move to the iPhone 4.
Put the micro sim in, plugged the new iPhone 4 into my Black MacBook (Tiger OSX)
Says I need OSX 10.5.8 (Leopard) for iPhone 4 to work
On this Black MacBook I'm on Tiger, so I go to Apple store online to see how much.
Seems that the only option is £120 Box Set including iLife latest.
Luckily I have another (white) MacBook which I don't usually use for iTunes and my iPhone, which already has Leopard 10.6.3 on it, so I figure ill start using this for iTunes and the iPhone 4 from now on.. even though i liked having my older Black MacBook (Tiger) as a dedicated machine for non-work tasks.
My entire iTunes library is on an external Samsung Story hard drive, about 1.6tb of all my music, movies etc plus my latest backup from my old iPhone 3G.
Open up iTunes on the White MacBook (Leopard) and sign in with my iTunes account info, download latest iTunes update to be sure all is good.
Close iTunes
Re-Open up iTunes whilst holding down option key and point it to the existing iTunes music folder on my Samsung external hard drive
Here's where the problems start:
Only a handful of my music and none of my bought from the iTunes store music appears in the library
And all that does appear in the library has that scary grey exclamation mark meaning it doesn't know where things are.
Phone the Apple Store and wait 5 mins to speak to tech support.
The man on the phone tells me I have to import my entire iTunes library onto my internal hard drive on my white MacNook (Leopard) in order for it to work. .
But my iTunes folder is 1.5tb filled with loads of official bought stuff from the iTunes store and the only space on this MacBook is 3.61 gb! This now means that I need to somehow have a larger internal harddrive even though I have 1tb of space on an external drive.
Note. All the time during the call the man is sending me emails on how to solve the problem to try to get me off the phone and to go it alone. However none of these emails ever arrived, and its now 45mins since I was on the call to him with no sign of them.
At this point lets bare in mind, If i didn't have this other (white MacBook) computer with Leopard on it already I would have spent:
A. £120 more to get Snow Leopard Box Set on the Tiger machine (and thats if it met the minimum requirements)
B. On finding out that this computer has got nowhere near 1.5tb of space required to move the iTunes library on its internal drive, I'd go out and buy a 2tb drive
and still this would not enable the iPhone 4 to work according to Apple's tech people on the phone!!
So I'm totally stuck. It seems I need a 2TB internal drive in an old MacBook to use this new iPhone 4 - this can't be correct, surely? Please correct me and the Apple techician if I'm wrong.
I've booked an appointment at the Apple Store Genuis Bar in Regent Street next Thursday.
So for now im back to using iTunes and my iPhone 3G on my Tiger MacBook whilst the iPhone 4 goes back in it's box.
Until then, any help would most welcome.
One question that may answer it all and would be of interest:
Has anyone successfully got an iPhone 4 working when using an external hard drive for their iTunes media folder?

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