Iphone not live updating my smart playlists

I had the old original iphone then upgraded to the 3G S. When i had my original, it came with pre-set smart lists that updated automatically (like literally the second u changed the rating to 5 stars, that song appeared in ur top rated list). Well as u know the 3G S doesn't come with said lists. Further more when i tried to create those smart lists on my own, they do not update at ALL!! I've tried to make one that was a top 25, recently added, and top rated, and none of these have worked at all....
Is there a way to NOT have to connect ur iphone to ur computer for these lists to update?? also if i rate them 5 stars on my computer it works but not when i do it only on my phone.. i dont want to have to plug it all the **** time when i change my mind about wanting a song on my playlist.
somebody please help!!

The only way to change the iPhone music content is by syncing to the computer. The sole exception to that is the On The Go playlist. Smart playlists only update when you sync.
If they are not updating correctly, see this: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3044

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I mean that lists like "Music I haven't listend to recently" do not remove songs on the fly when I listen songs. Last time some special rules were a problem, like "album rating", or "skipped" or "is/not podcast". It worked if I avoided those rules. I did not research the details this time. Although all my rules are really old, so they should have been fixed by now. (Old, but a complex set of ten smart playlists, all live updating and the "main" list built from the others.)
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Generally any RECENT iTunes smart playlist RULE TYPES that Apple has introduced in iTunes, but failed to update to iOS Music Player seem to be the problem. The iOS device can not understand a new iTunes rule unless somebody hard codes it to a new iOS version which is then updated to your iPod. And the live update is disabled, if iOS does not recognize a rule that iTunes has.
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For the last several itunes updates, setting a smart playlist to Live Update causes the order of playlist items to become mangled on synced deviceL
Unchecking the Live Updating restores the proper order to the items on the synced device.
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It was a problem a long time ago, and there was a kludgy workaround. Then they fixed it. And 2 versions of iTunes later it came back, and the workaround didn't work that time. It now appears to be a permanent bug, and apparently nobody cares at Apple.
Here's a wonderful example of how longstanding this bug is:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/11396625#11396625
This one is even more pathetic, going back to 2009:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/10168181#10168181
There are many, many, other threads complaining about this issue so I've lost faith that Apple will care or try to fix it.
There has always been the occasional bug or error with Apple hardware/software; nobody's perfect - but they used to make an effort to fix things in a timely manner. At least they used to think the perception of attention to detail was important for marketing purposes.
Now, they are apparently content to Pareto Principle their products becuase they have the mass sales and a giant customer base that will accept 'just good enough' products.
So sad to see the decline of such a once great company.

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Scenario:
I have a smartplaylist with live updating ticked in itunes. this playlists looks for tracks with a star rating between 4 and 5 stars and places them in the playlist. in itunes when i listen to new music with no rating and i give it a rating that meets this rule it works and places that said track in the playlist.
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This way of working always worked on my other ipods. just not with my touch.
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As I know for current moment few parameters do not work for live updateble smart playlist. Try to remove Podcast and Video Kind from your playlist(s).
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I have several video files that I want to convert to iPod-compatible MP4. I have a program to do the conversion in a batch mode and then add the files to my iTunes library.
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Welcome to the Discussions Steavis,
As far as I know, a sync to the iPod only occurs upon the first attachment, as long as your settings are set for such action.
The iPod will only sync after the initial attachment if you initiate the sync yourself. I believe it is in a pull-down menu, and/or CTRL-Click the iPod in the source list and select "Sync".
I am not sure if that is all correct, but in my experience, if I have connected my iPod, it syncs, then I say load in a CD to iTunes, I must re-sync the iPod before they transfer.
Not knowing what you are using for this automation to get the app that converts and adds, etc, can do, I might explore a script that runs at a specific time of day and initiates a sync to any iPod connected. That should be fairly easy to do.
Beavis2084

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Oh poops, I hate when people do this. I found the answer, finally, like immediately after posting. I think.
Via http://www.smartplaylists.com/ I found this thread (searching here didn't get me to it): http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1742897
I don't love the answer, but there it is.
(Open the Edit Smart Playlist window, hit OK)

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Thanks

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hi there,
installed 6.0.2 and wanted to make a smart playlist of all songs that match the criteria "rating is from 3 to 5 stars".
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p.p.s.: mac os x 10.4.4 (not available in the dropdown list here...;-)

well, that's nice of Apple but just for those guys who want to make a smart playlist with rating=3.
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oh, but I'm off-topic. sorry!
just my $0.02.
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