IPhoto 08 - Editing externally with Photoshop CS

I recently had to reformat my hard drive and reinstate my software including iLife08 and iPhoto in particular. Prior to this event when I used PS CS to edit I simply opt clicked a photo to edit it in PS and then Saved the edited version. The whole thing was transparent. Since my misfortune with the hard disk glitch I have been unable to do this. Having set the PS as the preferred external editor in the preferences panel when I 'Opt click' a photo it opens PS but fails to open the photo itself. I've been able to work around by Opening the photo file directly in PS through an alias of the modified folder within the iphoto library folder.
This is further complicated when I try to sync photos to my Apple TV and iPod and I discover that edits made with both 'iPhoto' and 'PS' don't appear to have been edited when viewed in the newly sync'ed devices.
Hope someone can shed some light on this!

Thanks again Terence your advice to re-instal PS did the trick. It is now functioning correctly!

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SP:
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From: "Barbara B." <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:05:25 -0600
To: Warren Newman <[email protected]>
Subject: Iphoto Editing with Photoshop Elements 9
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>

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This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
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This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
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