IPhoto 08 - Original Folder gone

I am using iPhoto 08 and I have over 10,000 pictures. I wanted to move my pictures to an external drive but when I went to look for the Originals folder there is not one. I have been using Time Machine to back up my pictures and all of my pictures are in my iPhoto Library. How can I restore the Originals Folder? Where are my pictures saving to?

LuAnneJackson
With iPhoto 7 (iLife 08) the old iPhoto Library Folder is now a Unix Style Package File. The change was made to the format of the iPhoto library because many users were inadvertently corrupting their library by browsing through it with other software or making changes in it themselves.
You can look inside the Library by right clicking on the icon in the Pictures Folder and choosing Show Package Contents.
To back up your Library simply back up the iPhoto Library in your Pictures Folder. You can do incremental back ups with applications such as Chronosync and DejaVu
Regards
TD

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That does sound like your original library. It makes sense to me; your husband was probably told to drag it to the Desktop by the Apple help desk person. Look inside your Pictures folder for the other two iPhoto Library folders. If you don't find them there, do another Finder Search. Click once on a found item in the Search window to see its path at the bottom of that window. That should help you locate those folders.
After you find and rename or delete the other libraries, you will be ready to create a new library. (You might not want to delete those other folders yet - in case some photos are missing from your main library. But if you are sure that nothing in them is original, go ahead and Trash them to free up the space.)
To create a new library, Option-launch iPhoto and click "Create Library." By default it will be located in your Pictures folder and named "iPhoto Library." You can change the name if you want - say, "iPhoto Library New" before you click "Save." A new, empty library will open. Drag the right corner of the window up so that it fills only about half of your screen. Do iPhoto > Preferences > Advanced and make sure that there IS a check in the boxes beside "Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when importing to library" and "Add ColorSync Profile".
On the other half of your screen, open a Finder window. Set it to column view and navigate this path: Desktop/ iPhoto Library/ Originals/ 2007/ (Film Roll folders). It is these Film Roll folders that contain your photos. Select all of the Roll folders and drag them as a group over the iPhoto window until the cursor shows you a green plus symbol. Drop them in the main viewing area of the iPhoto window. iPhoto will indicate to you that it is importing. A film roll will be created for each folder that you dragged. [Tip: if you want an Album to represent each film roll, then drag them to the Source Pane (left column) instead of the main viewing window. This will create an Album and a film roll, both with the same name as the imported folder.]
I have read that the film roll date can be wrong after importing, so you may want to check the dates as you go. Open the Info Pane in the lower left corner of the iPhoto window (click the little i). When you select a Roll, its info will display in the Info Pane. You can edit the Roll's title and date, if you wish.
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https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-20276325-17180 2/iPhotolibcontents.PNG
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Sorry, I got your email but your reply hasn't appeared in the Discussions (NOW it has! just when I post the reply..), so I've pasted it here (hope you didn't mind).
Anyway, since then, when everything else failed, I did already have a look inside the Package, and there I saw all my Original and Modified versions, so I knew they were still there. It's just a case of why iPhoto isn't offering to Revert to them.
Ok, I have some questions about your latest advice (which is going to be a BIG JOB!!).
When you say Metadata, do you mean I will lose all the camera's EXIF data (that normally shows if you click Info)?
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i have a really old desktop mac...i can try connecting the two...how does one boot a mac in 'target mode'?
as for the iphoto cleaning and organizing issue...that is what i was trying to accomplish with importing them to a folder. was going to browse and clean from there...but somehow imported to desktop which is what's complicating everything. once i get them off the desktop i can work on the iphoto issue...which as i mentioned...i didn't take 45,000 pics...i've just taken about 4,500 over the last few years, and they are being duplicated in iphoto. this was my attempt to clean it out entirely and start over. it will basically be a lot of deleting.
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A great first chapter Charlie. Can't wait for the rest of the book.
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