IPhoto 08 Saturation Slider Flawed!

Hi,
Has anyone else noticed that the Saturation slider in iPhoto '08 makes absolutely no sense? It doesn't behave like a Saturation slider. In both Apple's Preview and Aperture, the Saturation slider works exactly like it should, just like Photoshop. The Saturation slider ONLY adjusts the Saturation. In iPhoto '08 however, as soon as you increase the Saturation above the middle point, your photo starts getting DARKER. This would be kind of acceptable if some of the other Adjustment sliders started moving too, such as the Levels or Exposure sliders. But they don't.
Why have Apple done this? Why make a Saturation slider that ISN'T a Saturation slider? If they'd called it something else, it wouldn't be so bad. But Saturation is Saturation. They obviously know how to make Saturation sliders because they've got it right in both Preview and Aperture, but totally messed it up in iPhoto '08.

While you observation is correct, I believe that this is how the tool is designed to work and, in my opinion, gives much more naturally looking results than the saturation controls in Photoshop.
Try to increase the saturation to the maximum in iPhoto and then do the same in Photoshop. In iPhoto this will result in an image that’s punchier but still retains the original hues to a large degree. In Photoshop however you will end up with totally oversaturated/shifted colour hues that look cartoonish, a very blunt method.
iPhoto’s approach is way smarter, preventing you from distorting the colours and also note, that it preserves whites just as they were before.
If you don’t like the general darkening, simply drag the Levels’ mid-slider to the left to compensate for it.

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Roop
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