IPhoto '09 - original and (un)modified files

Hi there, just beginning to use this software and am confused.
I have my original photos on my hard drive. When I import them into iPhoto, I get two additional copies - one in the iPhoto Library Originals folder, and another in the Modified folder, despite the fact I have done nothing to modify them. So, I end up with three copies. Sure, I can delete the original hard drive ones, but then I still have two copies taking up scarce disk space.
Question is, why am I automatically getting an iPhoto Original copy and a Modified copy? Some googling tells me that if a photo has been rotated, this will be the case. But this is also happening for photos originally taken in landscape format. Does it, then, happen for any photo taken on a camera with an autorotate function?
How can I solve this problem so that I have just one (Original) photo in my iPhoto library (original original still available elsewhere, and a modified version only being created if I actually do something to the photo subsequently in iPhoto?
Thanks so much!

Okay, thanks, Larry. You know before you answered I did go ahead and delete the Modified folder to see what would happen (bearing in mind I have the original originals in two other places). (Sorry for the contrariness.) I deleted it while iPhoto was open, and it was simply instantly recreated, which was a bit of a surprise. Then I closed iPhoto and deleted it, then reopened iPhoto, and no Modified folder was created.
Everything looks good in the iPhoto library - SO FAR, of course - though a right-click does give the options for "Show File" (just points to hard disk root directory) and "Show Original File" (points to iPhoto Originals folder).
I am going to leave it like that and see if anything happens (if it does I'll report back for others to hear). Worst comes to worst, I just delete everything, create a new Library and reimport again. I won't rely on iPhoto as my only source of originals...
Thanks again.

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I can't find the solution or similar cases on the web so I went to you.
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With the amount of information you've provided it's impossible to offer a potential solution. We can't see your computer so we need to know the details of your problem and setup, i.e.:
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what system version are you running?
what fixes have you tried?
where is your library located?
did you apply any updates or upgrades just prior to the problem occurring?
are you running a "managed" or "referenced" library?
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I just imported a BUNCH of images and arbitrarily it appears that iPhoto has made modified versions of most of the images. These duplicates are the exact same it appears to the originals, and are taking up unnecessary space. I've even deleted a few of the modified, but the drop menu for some of the images still says "Revert to Original". Sometimes, after selecting that, it still maintains a modified version. WHY is this happening, and HOW can I manage this so modifieds ONLY happen when I manually edit a photo?
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Once you get the original files outside of iPhoto you can use either Seashore orXee to rotate the file. Xee will do lossless rotation.
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Ah, great. I've just discovered that in iPhoto 08 image rotations DO NOT count as a modification. What that means is, if you rotate an image, iPhoto 08 doesn't make a copy of the image and store it in the Modified folder. Nope. It just uses one image, the original stored in the Originals folder, and does the rotation as a non-destructive real-time transformation. Great.
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Hi, My website bilyz.com has been running OK on two external servers, two different hosting providers, yet neither will allow me to upload modified files.
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Thanks.
It seems to be a little buggy. My first test import seemed to be ok but it didn't copy any of the modified pictures. It seemed to put some originals to the modified folder but not the real, modified ones. Second try seemed to work, though.
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