Iphoto '10 question: disappearing photos

My iphoto '10 is not properly uploading/deleting pictues from my digital camera. I can't find the lost photos as files anywhere on my computer. Anyone know what to do?

First go to about iPhoto and report the ersion you have - there is no iPhoto '10
then lease describe yoru workflow and exactly what happened and is happening
Do the photo sshoe in last import?
and as a best practise never have iPhoto delete the photos from your camera - import them and after at least one sucdessful backup cycle use the camera's format command to reformat the memory card
LN

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IPhoto and Flickr - disappearing photos and involuntary syncing

After control-clicking on Check Now in one of my Flickr albums, within iPhoto of course, all of the pictures in the album disappeared, leaving only the name of the album in the list of Flickr albums in iPhoto.
The set made from that album is still present on the Flickr website (so far), even after navigating away from the page and coming back. I have no idea what is going on.
I assumed that Check Now would sync any changes I made to photos in that Flickr set back to the same photos on iPhoto.
I am worried that Flickr is now going to delete all of those photos entirely from iPhoto (as well as from the Flickr site). That would be a big problem. It hasn't done that so far, but who knows? I understand that the syncing between iPhoto and Flickr is two way - i.e. true syncing.
When your changes in Flickr sync back to iPhoto, does Flickr change your original in iPhoto (or whatever is serving as your original for Flickr's purposes - that is, the most recently modified version in iPhoto), or is there a separate version created just for uploading to Flickr, that is stored in the Flickr album on iPhoto, and that is the only version that is changed by Flickr when it is syncing back (to iPhoto)? I hope it is the latter. If not, many of us may be in for a surprise.
Should I delete the empty Flickr album from iPhoto, which should have the effect of deleting that set and its photos from the Flickr website, and start all over? This was a big, long upload, which is why I am hesitating.
I just started using Flickr yesterday and have had some trouble with it - for example, I've deleted albums/sets and re-uploaded them, for various reasons. Perhaps I've confused the poor thing.
I have Flickr Pro, if that makes a difference.
Confused.
Thanks in advance.

Barb2008 wrote:
After control-clicking on Check Now in one of my Flickr albums, within iPhoto of course, all of the pictures in the album disappeared, leaving only the name of the album in the list of Flickr albums in iPhoto.
Hi,
The Flickr tool in iPhoto is both pretty neat and pretty frustrating. While I think it is a good start, it still needs work. I probably can not answer most of your questions, but I can clarify a few and offer my own experiences...
The set made from that album is still present on the Flickr website (so far), even after navigating away from the page and coming back. I have no idea what is going on.
That is weird. So the Flickr set in iPhoto cleared itself but the actual set on Flickr is still intact, right? Have you tried restarting your computer, going to disk utility and repairing disk permissions on your start up drive, then restarting iPhoto?
If that doesn't clear it up, you might try rebuilding the iPhoto library by closing iPhoto then restarting while holding down the Option key. Then try some of the rebuild options and see where that gets you.
I assumed that Check Now would sync any changes I made to photos in that Flickr set back to the same photos on iPhoto.
The syncing is two ways, but the Flickr sync back to iPhoto is more limited. For example, if you add keywords in Flickr those keywords will be synced back to iPhoto. However if you add a photo from your flickr account into that album, Flickr will send a small version thumbnail back to iPhoto, not the original photo.
But yes, to answer your question, all syncing between iPhoto and Flickr is more or less a two way sync.
I am worried that Flickr is now going to delete all of those photos entirely from iPhoto (as well as from the Flickr site). That would be a big problem. It hasn't done that so far, but who knows? I understand that the syncing between iPhoto and Flickr is two way - i.e. true syncing.
First off, Flickr can never remove anything from your iPhoto library. Perhaps a photo might be removed from a flickr album in your iPhoto, but the photo will still exist in your library. So you can not lose anything from your library using Flickr.
Second, if the Flickr album in your iPhoto is empty but the photos are still in the album in Flickr, then they will not be removed later. The sync tends to be a real time event where if you remove photos from an iPhoto Flickr album, iPhoto then begins to remove them from Flickr as well.
My own experience is that sometimes things happen like you experienced, where the iPhoto Flickr album gets "disconnected" from the on-line Flickr album. At this point there is no longer a connection and one doesn't effect the other. I have not found a way to relink the two which is one of the weak points of the new iPhoto Flickr syncing.
As a side note, a nice feature would be a menu item to actually do that, disconnect iPhoto from an on-line album, as it would be nice to be able to upload an album, then disconnect it so no further changes are made to Flickr regardless of what happens to the iPhoto album. Basically a "do not update" setting.
When your changes in Flickr sync back to iPhoto, does Flickr change your original in iPhoto (or whatever is serving as your original for Flickr's purposes - that is, the most recently modified version in iPhoto), or is there a separate version created just for uploading to Flickr, that is stored in the Flickr album on iPhoto, and that is the only version that is changed by Flickr when it is syncing back (to iPhoto)? I hope it is the latter. If not, many of us may be in for a surprise.
To the best of my knowledge, Flickr does not sync back actual changes to the photo itself. It will sync back things like album name changes, title changes, keyword additions, and stuff like that. However I have never actually tried publishing an album to Flick then editing a photo in that album in Flickr to see what it does. I should try that to see. Generally, if I have used iPhoto to publish photos to Flickr, then I use iPhoto to make any edits to the photo, not Flickr.
Should I delete the empty Flickr album from iPhoto, which should have the effect of deleting that set and its photos from the Flickr website, and start all over? This was a big, long upload, which is why I am hesitating.
As I mentioned above, if the album in iPhoto is empty but everything is still intact on Flickr, then likely the album in iPhoto was "disconnected" (link lost) from the Flickr album. When you go into that album in iPhoto, does it still show a Flickr link in the upper left? If so, what happens when you click that link? Does it take you to the album?
I just started using Flickr yesterday and have had some trouble with it - for example, I've deleted albums/sets and re-uploaded them, for various reasons. Perhaps I've confused the poor thing.
Flickr is pretty good. It is the iPhoto to Flickr interface and syncing that is a bit weak. It sounds like your issues are with iPhoto's syncing with Flickr than with anything to do with Flickr itself.
I myself use a number of tools with Flickr and I find iPhoto doesn't offer many choices on how it works with Flickr. Actually it doesn't really offer any choices, you get one method of interaction and that is it. So for many tasks I use other tools to get photos onto Flickr.
That said, if you have a full album/event you want to put on Flickr, the iPhoto interface is very handy for publishing a set on Flickr with keywords, map data, etc. and allows you to edit photos later and have those updates automatically go to Flickr as well. But with that comes some problems like being able to edit a photo in iPhoto for a different purpose, perhaps forgetting you added it to a Flickr album since you are accessing the photo elsewhere in iPhoto than that Flickr set, and then having those edits updated to Flickr without you realizing or intending.
Barb2008 wrote:
More info about my question - there is an emanating wave or broadcast signal icon beside each Flickr album name in the iPhoto source menu. It looks a bit like the Airport signal icon along the top bar of the computer screen. When you click on it, the sync symbol appears and goes round and round for awhile. So that is how you manually sync Flickr albums and sets I guess.
Yes, even if you just click on the set to look at it in iPhoto, you will usually see the little "broadcast" icon indicate it is checking the set against the Flickr set. Usually you see one of several icons. The little broadcast icon like the airport signal simply indicates that the set is synced to a Flickr set but is currently idle. When you click that icon or the set, the icon changes to a circle. A couple of swirling arrows in the circle indicates it is checking online. If there are updates then the circle goes blank and you start to see an advancing pie piece indicating how much of the sync is complete. If the circle just sits there blank for a long time, then the sync has stalled or not working.
One album has the symbol, and two don't. These are the two I had trouble with today (deleting and re-uploading, etc.)
The album that has the symbol also has a link at the top of the photos to the page on Flickr containing that photo set.
The two albums that don't have the symbol do not display a link to the appropriate Flickr page. The corresponding sets are both visible on Flickr, however, as I said.
Perhaps I should start all over?
Ah, ok that answers the question I asked above. Sounds like the two albums somehow got de-linked from Flickr. Both sets show up on the left side under the Flickr listings?
If that is the case, you have a couple of options.
One is if you are satisfied with the set as it appears over in Flickr and don't really have a need to keep a live link between the two (Flickr and iPhoto) you can probably delete those sets from our of iPhoto's "Flickr" albums and your Flickr sets will stay.
On the other hand, if you wish to keep a live link to the two albums so you can continue to edit or update the album, keywords, photos, etc. then you probably want to redo those two.
Unfortunately as I said above, I don't know how to get an album to RE-link back to Flickr once that link has been broken and where it has happened to me I either have removed the set from iPhoto, removed the set and all photos from Flickr (using the Flickr web site tools), then recreating the set in iPhoto and clicking the Flickr upload button again to recreate the whole thing. Or I leave the set on Flickr and continue to work with it directly at Flickr using other tools to add additional photos and doing all my edits on the set or the photos from the Flickr website itself.
Regards,
Patrick

Evelyn question: I Photo, I lost all my images and am getting nothing up on preview or iphoto. I did drage the icons to the bottom of my monitor.

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Before anyone can help, they need information to work with. Basic stuff:
- What version of iPhoto.
- What version of the Operating System.
- Details. What were you doing when the problem arose?
- Did it ever work properly?
- Are there error messages?
- What steps have you tried already to solve the issue.
Anything else you can think of that might allow someone else to understand your issue.
With this kind of information somebody can develop a starting point for troubleshooting the issue.
Posts that consist of "iPhoto doesn't work. Help" or "iPhoto won't print" or "Suddenly I have no photos!!!!!!!!!!" mean that any helper is simply guessing. With information, s/he may be able to get your issue resolved sooner.

Why do I get question marks on iphoto instead of the photos?

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IPhoto library completely disappeared from Lacie drive

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I would be so grateful if anyone could help me.
My mac was backed up to an external hard drive (Lacie) then wiped. Within the back-up was iPhoto containing pictures from 2008 to 2013. They are my only copy and none have ever been printed out.
My daughter was making a movie for prom so I connected up the drive to get her some photos and videos. Indeed it was always my plan, that when she leaves for uni I would spend a year making albums of all of the pictures that no one has ever seen.
I went into time machine back up, latest and older copies, and there is no reference to iPhoto whatsoever. Many of the answers on line refer to empty iPhoto libraries. Mine is just not there, no reference to it at all. The back up is showing about 180 gb so the iPhoto library is not within this back up anymore as the library is much bigger.
I cannot understand what has happened.
I have googled every possible way of asking the question but i cannot find anyone whose iPhoto library has disappeared without reference to it.
Please help me
Thank you

What system and iPhoto versions are you using? Do you keep your MBP on all the time and iPhoto open? I
Do you have Time Machine enabled even when the EHD is not mounted? If so you may have "local" backups on your MBP that might have the library. See this site for more info: What are Local Snapshots?

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I have a few questions about photos and storage... If you can just answer one of these, that's fine and thanks for the help!
How do I see how much space my iPhoto photos are taking on my hardrive?
I have Time machine which backs up, but concerned that I'm getting too many pictures. When I do "Get Info" on the hardrive it says 640GB Capacity with 254GB used. I'm assuming that includes all my photos, and that Time machine only backs up and is not the active storage for those photos?
What is advisable for available GB space on this size computer?
I have my photos on the hardrive and the time machine, is it also advised to have in a cloud-based storage system to be safe? Or some other place. Just checking what others do with this.

1 - it is a really good idea to start new threads with new questions - threadjacking a year old solved thread on a totally different subject will not provide the best coverage and the best answers
2 - Do NOT uncheck the option to copy imported items to the iPhoto library - it is a really, really bad idea that will create many problems for yo and has no advantages of any sort - see the user tip on file management in iPhoto for more details - iPhoto and File Management
3 - take the time to learn how to use iPhoto and the concept of using a database for management photos rather than a file based system like you are used to - it is much different and much more powerful - but there is a learning curve and a different thought process
4 - yes you can always export anything or everything from iPhoto for use on any other system - see the user tip on exporting for details - Exporting From iPhoto
5 - always remember that you never access your photos directly - iPhoto totally replaces the finder for managing your photos - see the user tip on accessing photos for more details - How to Access Files in iPhoto
LN

IPhoto can't find photo even though the thumbnail is present. Any help, there are dozens of photos in my library that won't open as iPhoto can't find them.

iPhoto can't find photo even though the thumbnail is present. Any help, there are dozens of photos in my library that won't open as iPhoto can't find them. This is probably a very common question!

With the amount of information you've provided it's impossible to offer a potential solution. We need to know the details of your problem and situation, i.e.:
what version of iPhoto are you using?
what system version are you running?
what do you see when you launch iPhoto to open your library?
what fixes have you tried before coming here?
where is you library located?
how long has this been occuring?
did you apple any updates or upgrades just prior?
are you running a "managed" or "referenced" library?
what type of Mac?
how much free space on your boot drive?
What do you see when you click on a thumbnail?
OT

TS3989 When I try to add photos from PhotoStream into my iPhoto Library a message appears asking to view the photo in the library (as if it were already imported). When I click View it brings me to my iPhoto library but the photo(s) are not there?

Hopefully someone can help me with my question. When I try to add photos from PhotoStream into my iPhoto Library a message appears asking to view the photo in the library (as if it were already imported). When I click View it brings me to my iPhoto library but the photo(s) are not there?

When I try to add photos from PhotoStream into my iPhoto Library a message appears asking to view the photo in the library (as if it were already imported).
How exacly are you trying to import from the Photo Stream? Dragging from the stream to the events? Ctrl-clicking or right clicking?
If "Show in Library" does not show the event, then your iPhoto Library may need repairing or rebuilding; try to run the iPhoto Library First Aid Tools, if you have not already done so. See this post by Old Toad on how to do it: Rebuild iPhoto Library Version 11:
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Hi,
I'm really frustrated with how iPhoto duplicates edited photos. Therefore, I don't really do any editing in iPhoto anymore. However, the "modified" folder still has copies of photos I never edited. I select those photos in iPhoto and choose "revert to original". the photos in the modfied folder disappear for a while... but they are just regenerated after a few seconds! I've tried deleting the photos in the modified folder through the Finder, but the same thing happens. For some reason, iPhoto keeps on creating "modified" photos. To my knowledge, thats only supposed to happen when I edit in iPhoto. But again, no editing whatsoever has been done.
Do help!

Enzo2121
Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
But again, no editing whatsoever has been done.
Actually there has.
Your camera has an auto-rotate feature. This feature flags the photo with an instruction "Display Me This Way Up". The file is not changed, no actual pixels get turned. No application with editing capabilities respects these flags. iPhoto sees the flag and reads it as an instruction: Rotate Me. Rotation is an edit, hence the modified version.
When you try Revert to Original, iPhoto destroys the Modified version and reads the Original again. Of course the Original has this flag put there by the camera, iPhoto sees the flag and creates a new modified version. So you have a loop.
Solution: 1. Turn off auto-rotate on your camera or 2. Rotate the pics with another app before importing them. Make sure that the app you chooses actually rotates pixels.
I've tried deleting the photos in the modified folder through the Finder,
*It is strongly advised that you do not move, change or in anyway alter things in the iPhoto Library Folder as this can cause the application to fail and even lead to data loss*
I'm really frustrated with how iPhoto duplicates edited photos. Therefore, I don't really do any editing in iPhoto anymore.
Any photo you edit via iPhoto also has a preserved original. If you don't edit via iPhoto, then iPhoto won't know about the edits, and your thumbnails will not reflect the reality of the photo. If you don't want this feature, bluntly, you'll be better off not using iPhoto. There are other photo organisers out there. Search on MacUpdate.
Regards
TD

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My photos still are in my webgallerie and on the net and on my iDisk folder within .Mac *but all the galleries are disappearing from my source-list within iPhoto’08.*
So I cannot change or admit photos to it using iPhoto.
Rebuilding a new album or rebuilding my iPhoto doesn't solve the problem neither does reinstalling iPhoto 08.
Is this a .Mac or iPhoto problem?
How to handle and to solve this problem?

JayAnn:
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TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

Iphoto not printing full photo, cropping some photos

After I create a photo with pixilmator or any horizontial and export to iphoto, I can see the full photo, but when i print it cuts off the edges and only prints the middle. I have tried selecting different sizes, changing horizontial view to vertical view, nothing works. I had to print and send a copy of a licence, similar to a car registration format, and that too had the ends cropped out. Please help. so far i have to print photos from the pixilatore program or and adobe program, no problems there, only have problems with iphoto. using epson stylus nx420. Please help

As noted in the other thread you posed this question in you must crop the photo to the print ratio and then print - iPhoto does not "autosize" photos - if you try to print a 8x12 photo on 8x10 paper you will lose 2 inches - you have to precrop the photo to the size you want to print
LN

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I have two iMacs, side by side, one is G5 with iPhoto 5, and another is Intel with iPhoto 6. When I use iPhoto 5 to email a photo, medium quality 640x480, it looks beautiful. It looks like a perfect replica of a high-res photo, just smaller, but very clear. But when I do the same with iPhoto 6, again medium quality, the photo looks terrible, the image is very poor, it is jagged around people's faces with apparent artifacts of higher jpeg compression -- whereas none of these artifacts are present when emailing from iPhoto 5.
The problem with iPhoto6 seems to be that it uses a higher jpg compression thus lowering the photo quality.
To illustrate, here is the photo emailed from iPhoto5:
http://www.cinemaclock.com/iPhoto5.jpg (100kB)
and here is the SAME photo emailed the same way from iPhoto 6:
http://www.cinemaclock.com/iPhoto6.jpg (36kB)
Interesting is that when I click to email from iPhoto6 it estimates the photo size to 122kB, the same estimation as in iPhoto5, but then iPhoto6 compresses it down to 36kB.
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I have the SAME problem!! Apple, please help how to correct the poor image quality?

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I have just downloaded photos from my camera and sorted photos and named folders etc. on closing iPhoto and reentering the photos have disappeared that I just downloaded, I have repeatedly tried to download but they keep disappearing???.
I am running on snow leopard
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I've looked for answers for these questions, which are kind of interconnected, but not found what I'm after. Have also tried a few things with smaller folders of pictures. Hope someone can help.
_Copy items into library?_
I want to use iPhoto organise and import photos, but use PS Elements 8 to edit them (and have set this up as an external editor from iPhoto). Given this, is my best bet to copy photos into the library, rather than use a referenced library (if I've got the terminology right)?
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When previously importing photos from a camera to PSE6 (PC), I stored each 'event' in a different folder. These folders were transferred to my Mac and put in the 'Pictures' folder in the Finder. When I import them into iPhoto, it looks like the 'iPhoto library' file has made copies of the photos and arranged them in its own event-based folder structure, in the 'Originals' folder (I've checked the 'Copy Items Into iPhoto Library' option mentioned above). Given that this has happened, do I still need to keep the folders for any reason other than as back-up? I get the impression that when I next import new photos, they'll go straight into that iPhoto library, rather than sitting in a file folder next to it - is this right? Is absolutely everything I need in that iPhoto library file?
_If I want to leave iPhoto..._
As above, my photo collection is currently arranged in folders. If I switch to iPhoto, won't each of my albums/events be split across 'Originals' and 'Modified'? Won't this make it very difficult to re-create a tidy photo collection in a different piece of software at some point in the future? Is this a decent enough reason to not use iPhoto?
_And lastly, Adobe Bridge_
Which came with PSE8. Is there much use for this if I'm using iPhoto+PSE8? Just checking I'm not missing a trick.
Thanks in advance!

The following may be of interest to you:
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
NOTE: If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
OT

Iphoto '11 attaches wrong photos in emails

I have been using iphoto '11 to email photos directly from the app. Frequently, I will send photos and the photos attached will be other photos in my iphoto library, not the ones I selected to send. Sometimes I send the same email to different people and some will get the 3 photos I intended to send and other receipients will get other photos from the library.

Yeah, seriously. People rant on here all the time.... kinda like your first post. We're not mindreaders and do not purport to know you mean to ask question unless you ask one.
Anyway, does the same thing happen when you set iPhoto up to use the regular Mail application for emails? Go into Preferences, General, and under Email Photos Using, choose Mail. Hopefully, that will work better.

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