IPhoto '11 Cant't save noise reduction.

Hello There!
I have a problem with iPhoto '11, when I make some adjustments to my photos and apply the Noice Reduction, it looks that iPhoto actually save the changes but when i try to copy the photo for some other applications or wanted to upload to my flickr the noice reduction is still like was at the begining. I can only see the changes when i'm in the iPhoto Editor. HELP!

Option 1
Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the command and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild. Choose to Repair Database. If that doesn't help, then try again, this time using Rebuild Database.
If that fails:
Option 2
Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. (In Library Manager it's the FIle -> Rebuild command)
This will create an entirely new library. It will then copy (or try to) your photos and all the associated metadata and versions to this new Library, and arrange it as close as it can to what you had in the damaged Library. It does this based on information it finds in the iPhoto sharing mechanism - but that means that things not shared won't be there, so no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your events, albums and keywords, faces and places back.
Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.
Regards
TD

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The usual solutions:
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Iphoto11, noise reduction dont save. it goes retour to de original if i restart the programm.

If i use "noise reduction", iphoto maks it. it works. but if i quit the photo or copie the photo, ist lost de reduction effect.
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I'm suffering this same problem. Any changes I make to the de-noise slider are lost when the file is exported. Within iPhoto itself, the changes are visible. But the exported image shows none of the noise-reduction. I've noticed that this bug is present on all large images. Smaller-size photos do not seem to be plagued by this problem, however. I do hope that this bug is fixed soon.
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Cant get noise reduction to work

when I apply the noise reduction feature to a grainly picture nothing happens. am I missing a step?

It's subtle. Maybe zoom in and look at it. The M key will let you toggle to the Master file so you can look at the before and after quickly.

Are there any other enhancements in noise reduction tools in CS6

Are there any other enhancements in the noise reduction tools besides the improvement mentioned of the spot healing brush. Are there improvements on the click and pop removal tool and the noise reduction in the spectral editing view. Quite anxious to know...

Paul:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. There is a hidden feature for changing the Redeye and Retouch tool size:
How to Change the Size of the Retouch and Red-Eye Removal Tool
Type Caps lockControl9
Undo caps lock
Click on the Retouch or Red-Eye Removal tool
The tab key will toggle between cursor types, a cross or a circle
The "[" and "]" keys decrease or increase the size accordingly.
NOTE: Using the "{" "}" keys will will change the value next to the circle and that represents the degree of change or intensity that the tool imparts on each pass.
Also check out the tip at the end of my signature for backing up the library database file on a frequent basis.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
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I'm tying to determine a best practices route using Adobe Lightroom, Adobe Photoshop and Nik Software Sharpener and Dfine (Noise Management Software).
I shoot only RAW with a Canon EOS 30D with good quality lenses.
I import the RAW files from the CF card directly (DNG and save) into LR, add keywords, organize, etc.
However, I am now at the point where I need to determine a sensible workflow that includes these steps:
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1. Save RAW files to location on Mac.
2. Apply Noise reduction to RAW files with Nik software within PS (perhaps automated, perhaps batched).
3. Apply RAW presharpening to RAW files with Nik software within PS (perhaps automated, perhaps batched).
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5. Open files in PS as needed, with files becoming edit versions within LR.
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The onlty way I can think of is to save and close the file and then open it (again) in RAW. And that's a bit of a round about way to do it.
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The top larger image is the "after" I save (.png form), the screenshot within photoshop is the "before"...
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I sent to the trash the iPhoto preferences I could find and launched it again
This time, I got the same behaviour, but also got console messages, as follows:
*18/05/08 00:51:17 [0x0-0xa1ba1b].com.apple.iPhoto[54170]* objc[54170]: Class PlugInLoader is implemented in both /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BilateralFilter.plugin/Contents/MacOS /BilateralFilter and /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BlackAndWhitePointsFilter.plugin/Cont ents/MacOS/BlackAndWhitePointsFilter. Using implementation from /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BlackAndWhitePointsFilter.plugin/Cont ents/MacOS/BlackAndWhitePointsFilter.
*18/05/08 00:51:17 [0x0-0xa1ba1b].com.apple.iPhoto[54170]* objc[54170]: Class PlugInLoader is implemented in both /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BlackAndWhitePointsFilter.plugin/Cont ents/MacOS/BlackAndWhitePointsFilter and /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BlackAndWhiteFilter.plugin/Contents/M acOS/BlackAndWhiteFilter. Using implementation from /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BlackAndWhiteFilter.plugin/Contents/M acOS/BlackAndWhiteFilter.
*18/05/08 00:51:17 [0x0-0xa1ba1b].com.apple.iPhoto[54170]* objc[54170]: Class PlugInLoader is implemented in both /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/BlackAndWhiteFilter.plugin/Contents/M acOS/BlackAndWhiteFilter and /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/SepiaFilter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/Sep iaFilter. Using implementation from /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/SepiaFilter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/Sep iaFilter.
*18/05/08 00:51:17 [0x0-0xa1ba1b].com.apple.iPhoto[54170]* objc[54170]: Class PlugInLoader is implemented in both /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/SepiaFilter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/Sep iaFilter and /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/SaturationFilter.plugin/Contents/MacO S/SaturationFilter. Using implementation from /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/SaturationFilter.plugin/Contents/MacO S/SaturationFilter.
*18/05/08 00:51:17 [0x0-0xa1ba1b].com.apple.iPhoto[54170]* objc[54170]: Class PlugInLoader is implemented in both /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/SaturationFilter.plugin/Contents/MacO S/SaturationFilter and /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/ColorCorrectionFilter.plugin/Contents /MacOS/ColorCorrectionFilter. Using implementation from /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/ColorCorrectionFilter.plugin/Contents /MacOS/ColorCorrectionFilter.
*18/05/08 00:51:17 [0x0-0xa1ba1b].com.apple.iPhoto[54170]* objc[54170]: Class PlugInLoader is implemented in both /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/ColorCorrectionFilter.plugin/Contents /MacOS/ColorCorrectionFilter and /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/LightingFilter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/ LightingFilter. Using implementation from /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/PlugIns/LightingFilter.plugin/Contents/MacOS/ LightingFilter.
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Every time I apply noise reduction in LR3 Beta 2 the adjustments appear in the preview window in LR but as soon as I export as jpeg the processing dissapear. It only happens with noise reduction - all other processing stays on the image. Any Help?

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Could there be some kind of "Preset"
(I could prepare for my husband/wife)
so that images from a basic camera
are imported with preset noise reduction ?
I would adjust NR parameters for different ISOs.
Kind of Lens Correction f(F,f,Camera).
Out-of-pipeline ?

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Bristol87 wrote:
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Hello! I'm not a new user to Adobe Audition, but feel a bit out of my depth in this regard. I was just wondering if anyone could suggest the best way to edit out all the noise in the track illustrated below? It's a dialogue track but there is a lot of movement / rustling in between. Can this be taken out easily without affecting the dialogue?
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I would like to apply noise reduction using a script. I captured the noise profile then recorded the script.
When I play it back, nothing happens. If I select "stop at dialogs" then the noise reduction dialog comes up and tells me that I need to capture a profile.
Is there any way to use the existing captured profile in a script?
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Thank you, that did it!
For the benefit of anyone else wanting to use noise reduction in a script, here is all you need to do. Before recording the script, capture and save the noise profile. In the example below, it is saved to
i C:\my_profile.fft.
Then record the script. In the noise reduction dialog, select
i Load from Profile
and choose the profile you saved. Adjust any other parameters, do the noise reduction and save the script.
Here's an example of what a script that just does noise reduction looks like:
Title: NR Test
Description: Applies noise reduction process
Mode: 4
Undo: 1
Selected: 0 to 605032 scaled 605032 SR 48000
Freq: Off
cmd: Channel Both
Selected: 0 to 605032 scaled 605032 SR 48000
Freq: Off
Comment: Restoration\Noise Reduction (process)
cmd: {974C27BF-7D77-4136-B697-0941F91251D7}
1: 0.6
2: 0
3: C:\my_profile.fft
4: 4096
5: 4000
6: 7
7: 48000
8: 1
9: 32
10: 4
11: 2.88106e-011
12: 1.94006e-006
13: 2.80101e-010
14: 1.94061e-006
15: 4000
16: 6
17: 2
18: 1
19: 2
20: 0
21: 1000
22: 16384
23: 1000
24: 0
25: 1
26: 1
27: 0
28: 0
29: 9
30: 65
31: 0
Freq: Off
End:
Bruce

IPhoto '11 Cant't save noise reduction.

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