Iphoto 11 - Duplicates and confusing suffixes on External Edit
Just a warning. Iphoto 11 has some changes that make it difficult to use an external editor.
I use iphoto in my photo processing process to edit photo's externally with photoshop CS4. I like iphoto for cropping because it has standard frame sizes and I like its view on the database. I also like iphoto as easy to understand. I also use(d) iphoto because it is easy edit on my mac laptop and then finally import the new iphoto library into aperture when done.
Iphoto 11 now creates a duplicate file so you will have the original raw and duplicate when you are done, in your iphoto library. It is very confusing because they have the same names and you grab one thinking its the other.
In addition, I am getting all kinds of errors in transferring files from iphoto to CS4. I think what is happening is that iphoto is saving in tiff but putting a jpg suffix on it and CS4 is seeing it as a corrupt jpeg and won't open.
Anyway, until apple/adobe coordinate on this, iphoto is not longer easy to use with an external editor.
You might want to stay in iphoto 9 until they get the bugs out or consider moving to lightroom or aperture if you are a heavy photoshop user.
If I am wrong, I would appreciated feedback. I have struggled with it for 1/2 a day and given up for now.
Scott
YEs - this is very frustrating. I was trying to use CaptureDX2 to edit the Raws - using it as an external editor. But when you open up the external program, iPhoto quickly creates a duplicate image in your library - a view of the browser shows that this thumbnail image in the library points to the original file, in this case the RAW file I was trying to edit. ARGHH. This, obviously, makes a mess of the library (with duplicate thumbnails every time you'd open the file to edit in the external editor. Does anyone have any ideas regarding this?
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<Email Edited by Host>I recently upgraded to Yosemite. Yesterday when I opened up the iPhoto (which I have it in my external drive due to the size of file) I get the message that it is not compatible with the new system(or something like that) and ask me to upgrade so I did. Then another message pops ups and asked for rebuilding the Thumbnails. So I clicked rebuild. Next it asked me to do one of three things(I can't remember all of them) so I chose the last one which is to download a photo to iPhoto. Now I only have that photo I downloaded in iPhoto file but not the rest of my pictures. The iPhoto library which is stored in my EHD shows it has 349GB but it only show one thumbnail of the last picture I downloaded after the rebuild process. What can I do to recover the rest of the file?
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