IPhoto 11 loosing images when edited in external editor?

Hi guys.
I am using iPhoto 11 and have it set to "edit in external edit" when i right click on an image. The aspp is Photoshop Elements 9 (PSE9) but when i save the image from PSE9 it duplicates it in iPhoto and i can see it as a thumbnail but when i double click it to view all i get is an exclamation mark and no image?

Thanks for the reminder; I think I read that, too, though it sounded dubious. The signal-to-noise ratio on this issue is murky at best. I submitted a feedback for enhancement, in addition to my bug report from yesterday:
I love iPhoto and have used it for years. But iPhoto '11 has a 'terrible new feature' or misbehavior that really needs a second look.
Please change iPhoto '11 back to the way it's behaved for 2-4 generations since using an external editor was first introduced: the new behavior duplicates photos before editing them the first time. The old behavior was to edit the existing photo and use "return the original photo" in the event that a user wanted to rollback the changes.
The old behavior was intuitive and harmonized with the behavior of using the internal iPhoto editor -- i.e., a user was not expected to develop a different workflow or bloat their library size.
The new behavior is neither intuitive nor efficient. It creates an unequal workflow whether the user decides to use iPhoto vs. external editor. That's just not consistent with the behavior of iPhoto for the past several generations of its existence.

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Photoshop and elements 13
Working in iPhoto
Want to edit image using photoshop elements
Did the following
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Also control click and chose edit in external editor
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I uninstalled and reinstalled both iPhoto as well as Elements.
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