Iphoto and CS4 SLOW

I use Iphoto to organize my pics, and Photoshop to edit them. From iPhoto, clicking edit, can open photoshop fine and I can edit pics. But going backwards....
If I'm in Photoshop and click Photos under media, the event blocks come up -- great, fast and responsive. No click an event.....SLLOOOWWW. Pics (Thumbnails) are slow, and scrolling past the pic files are painfully slow -- they load blurry, and take a lot of time sharpening. They act as if they're on a different (Networked Drive), but they're on the main HDD (750GB). It kills to try to edit any pic files because its so hard to see (Small thumbnails) and navigate (slow response) folders.
Any ideas or solutions?

Well LarryHN, its just that these programs and hardware are expensive its disappointing that they don't work well. I can edit any photo in iPhoto well and re-save it to the library, or re-save it somewhere else. However, when im working on a project, and need a pic of a person it it -- i often go to my photo library for more content. So i want to browse my library within photoshop as i'm working on another graphic art pic. I can do this, but its so slow, i'd probably give up before I found the pic i want.
I COULD save my pic in photoshop, an then open iphoto, find a pic, hit edit, which will open up photoshop again, and then re-open my old art file, then i have the 2 pics together, but that's more a workaround more than a solution.

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