IPhoto Changes sRGB IEC61966-2.1 Into Camera RGB Profile

Hi,
Has anyone else noticed this? iPhoto '08 seems to automatically alter the ColorSync Profile of any photos you import into it.
I have a Canon compact camera. Normally the ColorSync Profile in photos it takes shows up as sRGB IEC61966-2.1 in Preview 4.1 However, as soon as they've been imported into iPhoto, their ColorSync Profiles change to Camera RGB Profile.
Is this normal? How is Camera RGB Profile different to sRGB IEC61966-2.1? I'm worried that iPhoto is/has destroyed useful data in all of my photo files.

If you compare the camera RGB profile with the sRGB or sRGB IEC61966-2.1 with ColorSync you'll find that they are very similar and that the three could be interchanged without issue. if you're concerned about the camera RGB profile, search for it and remove it from the HD (or just zip it and delete the unzipped version). Then it would not be available to be used by iPhoto.
There is an Applescript script to assign the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 to any file or folder of files dropped on it. It's not the most preferable way to change profiles. That would be to convert to the profile. That can be done with ColorSync but will have to be done one file at a time. You could try a photo with both ways to see if either is preferable over the other. You can get the script at Toad's Cellar.
Have you found that the camera RGB profile prints unsatisfactorily when compared to the sRGB profile?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

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