IPhoto color and printing

It seems ridiculous that iPhoto does not document whether or not is it color-managed, and how to set up a print dialog to utilize whatever intelligence iPhoto has.
Like many others, I have been reduced to trial and error, looking to produce a print that resembles the one onscreen, in colors, brightness, contrast, etc.
If iPhoto does not ask for the printer profile, I suppose that means that it is not color managed, and one has to use the print dialog color management some way or other. OK. Why doesn't colorsync work? Does iPhoto somehow bypass colorsync?
I have to use the Epson controls for my R800, and adjust the brightness and contrast to get close to the onscreen appearance.
By the way, with the same hardware etc, I can print perfectly well using CS2, and choosing no color management in the print driver.
Questions like mine have been appearing on Apple Support Discussions for years now, and I don't understand why Apple doesn't explain how iPhoto really works.
Can anyone point me to a reliable source? I don't want to hear about how you use some other program to print. I want to print accurately from iPhoto.

In the Print window under the Color Management section (change it from iPhoto to Color Management) what is the setting set to. The default is Epson Vivid and many have found setting it to Standard and saving that option has improved their prints considerably.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

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language_code : en
language : English
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product_line : 83
product_oid : 59868
product_name : HP Deskjet 840c Printer
part_number : C6414K,C6414J,C6414A,C6414G,C6414N,C6414H
purchase month : 8
purchase year : 1996
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serial number : [Text removed for privacy]
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Kingstone's reply was helpful even though a little discouraging. But it made me realize that the problem probably lies with the choice of which software is doing the color management. The Epson 2200 printer driver provides some "advanced" settings in the print window, and I had been specifying "No color adjustment," because that's the setting recommended when printing from Photoshop. I had simply been trying the same setting when printing from iPhoto. But I went back and printed a photo from iPhoto using the "Color Controls" setting (without changing any of the variables), and the print came out perfectly! So I've answered the question to my satisfaction thanks to Kingstone's reply -- and I don't have to go out and invest in Photoshop Elements.
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