IPhoto -- edited via aperture

Hi,
I am working with iPhoto and aperture, and I set up iPhoto to edit a photo (from preferences)using Aperture. I open a photo that I have imported to iPhoto, select edit, Aperture opens, and a different photo that I imported to Aperture opens. So,
1) Do I need to separately import my iPhoto pictures to Aperture prior to opening in Aperture?
2) I thought that if I clicked edit on an imported iPhoto image, that Aperture woud open that specific photo up. Then, edits are saved in Apertures library as well (of those images that I edited and changed), so iPhoto would have the original image, and Aperture the modified one.
3) What am I doing incorrectly?
Thank you
Greg

Gliese
iPhoto is an excellent application, but it's a consumer level one. Comparing it and Aperture is like comparing iMovie with Final Cut. They both edit video, and that's where the similarities end. iMovie is for the home user who knows little about the professional editing environment, Final Cut requires knowledge of that environment. iPhoto and Aperture comparisons are exactly the same. You don't need to know anything about photography with iPhoto, some knowledge is required to use Aperture. I wrote on another thread a few weeks ago: If the user is confused by iPhoto's Interface, then the developers have not done their job well, if the user is confused by Aperture's, then the User is likely in the wrong place for his/her level of knowledge.
Apart from Front Row, Aperture has the same level of integration in the OS. It does all that iPhoto does and then quite a bit more. It's targeted at the Professional User not the consumer, so
Aperture is not REALLY created from the Apple Mindset of Apple elegance and simplicity
Is correct. It's "REALLY created from the Apple Mindset of Apple..." producing Pro level applications for Professional users. Professional Users generally aren't interested in Simplicity. (Just like most users of iPhoto don't think about Exif data... or "total dpi control"). So apps such Final Cut, Logic, and Aperture are not aimed at folks who want simplicity, for those folks you have iMovie, Garage Band and iPhoto.
Of course, you offer no evidence for your assertion:
it was actually brought over by recruits from iView Media Pro, along with a lot of marketing hype.
The OP is this thread is unable to use Aperture as an external editor, because, similar to iPhoto, it's not an editor. It's a post processing application and like iPhoto, is built around a database. Neither app can process the photos without importing them. The OP needs to check out an editor for the job.
Finally, I'm curious:
I've lamented for a long time that I'd be happy to pay more for an iPhoto Pro version!
How can you lament something that you'd be happy to do?
Regards
TD

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Issues?
1. You are responsible for file management. That's more work:
You must first move the files from your camera to the storage location before importing.
If you want to delete files then you must first trash them from iPhoto and then afterwards find them in your storage and trash them.
Thereafter, you cannot move the files on early versions of iPhoto at all, on iPhoto 08 and later you may move them on the same Volume or Disk. If you move them to a new volume or disk the aliases my break. If they are on an different volume and you move them the aliases will break.
You cannot rename the files.
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Because my photos won't fit on my HD?
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3. Hold down the option (or alt) key while launching iPhoto. From the resulting menu select 'Choose Library' and navigate to the new location. From that point on this will be the default location of your library.
4. Test the library and when you're sure all is well, trash the one on your internal HD to free up space.
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(Note the above illustration is not a Finder Window. It's the dialogue you get when you go File -> Open)
You can access the Library from the New Message Window in Mail:
There's a similar option in Outlook and many, many other apps. If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
If you want to access the files with iPhoto not running:
For users of 10.6 and later: You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation which will give you access to the iPhoto Library from your Services Menu.
Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.
For Users of 10.4 and 10.5 Create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser
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Drag and Drop: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
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Then, when I set up my iMac again this evening, and looked at iCloud on my iMac, all of my photo streams (not just the four that I had removed two days ago) were gone! And when I went into Aperture, the photo streams were all there, but with zero photos in them. Now last night when I boxed up my iMac to take to Apple, those photo streams were all there and they all had photos in them. So where did they go? And why, when you are the originator of a photo stream, and you tell iCloud to remove the photo stream, it says that it does but it leaves remnants of it with the other people you have shared it with? It seems to me that iPhoto, iCloud, and the fact that Apple is not flushing memory when an app closes is the problem with my iMac, not the size of my iPhoto library, or my external hard drive, or the fact that 8Gb of memory is apparently no longer enough memory for decent response with Mavericks (which I thought was designed to help solve some of the memory issues that OS X has).
I need help and help is apparently nowhere to be found at Apple.
Is there anyone out there who can help me?

If you're using iPhoto 5 as you say then, yes, 24k photos is heading close to the Limit of 25k. iPhoto 6 is good for 250,000 images, iPhoto 11 is good for 1,000,000.
I'm going to guess that's a typo and that you have iPhoto 9.5.
I've simply never heard of "too many photos" causing the problem you describe. You don't need more memory. You don't need to break up the Library. "Flushing Memory" is a non-isssue. One of the big improvements in 10.9 is in memory management.
There are a couple of ways to break up a Library while preserving everything. It's dead easy with Aperture - export projects as Library - you can do it with iPhoto simply by duplicating the Library and deleting from the two libraries or use iPhoto Library Manager.
But, as I say, 24k is a small Library. My main library is more than twice the size of that.
Are Aperture and iPhoto using the same Library?
As a Test:
Hold down the option (or alt) key and launch iPhoto. From the resulting menu select 'Create Library'
Import a few pics into this new, blank library. Is the Problem repeated there?
Post back with the result.

Error Message (Arrow and Exclaimation Mark in Yellow Triangle) Showing on Bottom Right of Some Photos after Merging iPhoto Library into Aperture

The strange thing is that some of these said photos with an error message have a normal thumbnail and can be opened fine, but the others (most of them) just have an empty space in the thumbnail as if the image can't be found.
I tried to Locate Referenced Files as Leonie suggested in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3686982?tstart=0 but got this message 'The Selection Doesn't Have Any Referenced Files', so i presume that's not the issue.
In the thread mentioned above, Leonie mentioned something about not emptying trash. I did empty my trash recently, and started to think these images may have been poor quality ones i previously deleted in the iPhoto library … but that still doesn't explain why the error currently appears on some images which seem to work fine (these images are ok quality ones and there is no way i would have deleted them in the past).
Also - the 'Processing' message at the bottom of the browser seems to be spinning endlessly. I just left it for over 10 hours overnight and it's still going. Could this be linked to these error images which it's having a hard time finding/loading?
Quite baffled at the moment, and would really appreciate any feedback. TIA.
EDIT:
I just looked more closely. It appears that most of my folders have duplicates of the same image with exactly the same file name. And all the images with the error message have them on both duplicates (i.e. one on an image that has an empty thumbnail, and one on an image that's fine).
When i initially tried to import the library, it proceeded half way then failed. After opening the iPhoto library in Aperture first, and then doing the import again, everything worked fine. So, i'm wondering if the images with errors that are empty/blank may be the result of the failed 1st import.
What's puzzling is why they weren't overwritten (especially since all the file names are exactly the same). When importing the library, i chose 'merge' instead of 'add' when prompted, thinking that would solve it. Obviously not.
EDIT 2:
After reflecting on this, i thought one solution may be to:
a) Find all the error'd images that are empty/blank and delete them, and then
b) Find and remove all duplicates
So i followed Leonie's suggestion to create a Smart Album and use the 'File Status is Missing' rule.
But now, i see that there are images that i imported into Aperture months ago that have the same problem. And the new thing is that there are duplicates with errors where *both* images are visible (whereas for the iPhoto library i just imported, there were dupes where one version was blank and the other was visible and seemingly ok).
I'm really hoping there is a simple solution to this, and am awaiting some feedback before i try anything else.
NB. This is a super large (over 100GB) Aperture library that i am trying to consolidate everything into. It is Work In Progress and i was only going to back it up once the import of various iPhoto libraries was done. However, I'm wondering if it's better to just back up first - but if i do it now, the backup will include all these errors and duplicates. What would you guys do?

UPDATE 2:
The users in these 2 threads seem to have a similar File Status Not Found issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4086569?tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17757686#17757686
Followed Leonie's advice to look for the (missing) masters inside the Masters folder, and indeed, they were missing. So, that confirms the reason for the error message.
If this does not work, because you have managed originals, inside the Aperture Library, look for your originals in the Aperture Library Package. Select the Library in the Finder and ctrl-click, then select "Show Package Contents" from the pop-up. In the Finder window that opens, navigate to the folder "Masters". Your missing images should be inside; the folder is structured by date of import.
Of course, the question is - why the masters for these few images are missing, when the other images in the same project that were imported/merged at the same time are fine.
Trying to do the library import/merge from iPhoto into Aperture again. Fingers crossed. Will report back on the result.

Organise with iPhoto, Edit with Photoshop Elements, but avoid destructive editing

Hi All,
I prefer to use iPhoto as my photo organiser and for sharing to Facebook and Flickr, but I also prefer to use Photoshop Elements (v11) as my editor. iPhoto is configured to launch PSE for editing and it works fine. My question relates to doing non-destructive saves back into iPhoto. It appears as though I cannot have version control because doing a save overwrites the original file in iPhoto. Although I can chose to save an edited version of my image elsewhere on my MacBook I would prefer to have orginal and saved versions colocated. Is there anyway around this issue or do I have to use PSE Organiser to have version control?
I like being able to Flag a bunch of photos in iPhoto, go to the Flagged folder to share them, and the way iPhoto displays shared folders uploaded to Facebook and Flickr. PSE Organiser seems a bit convoluted.
Thanks.

Take a look at Aperture - with it you can have versions and many people have reported that its editing is robust enough that they seldom if ever use PS or PSE anymore - maybe that would give you the editing power you wnat with the nondestructive editing of Aperture and version control
LN

Using iPhoto Library in Aperture 3

Currently I have two separate photo libraries, each containing the same photos/videos in both iPhoto 11 and Aperture 3 (latest updates for both).
In order to conserve HD space is there any way I could eliminate say, the Aperture library and have it use the iPhoto library as default? Each library comprises 24K+ photos/videos; however, iPhoto is the only one which can play certain of the older videos, Aperture won't play them. There is roughly 80 to 85 GB in each library due to the amount of items. I could keep the iPhoto videos in iPhoto for reference purposes and remove same from Aperture, but that means I am still running with two libraries.
What would be likely problems if I were to remove my current Aperture library and have Aperture use the iPhoto 11 library instead? I am running low on HD space and don't wish to use an external drive to store one of the libraries; however, I do use an external drive for Time Machine backups.
I am wondering what problems I would encounter and if there would be any benefit to this scenario.
Perhaps some feedback would help me to decide. Either I can eliminate the iPhoto library or the Aperture library. Thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Like Aperture the 'edits' are in the database. These apps work as follows:
Import an original
Edit it. Your decisions are stored as text commands in the SQL database. When you view the file it's essentially the original with your 'edits' overlaid on it. There is no edited file without exporting - that's what lossless processing is all about.
This User Tip
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4921
has details of the options in the Export dialogue.
The Aperture export dilaogue has even more options.
To dave you the bother of always having to export iPhoto automatically generates Previews. (In Aperture you can choose to generate them or not). What's a Preview? It's a sort of 'good-enough-for-most-things version of the shot, medium quality, medium size but missing lots of metadata - designed for use in scenarios like email, uploading and using in Word Processing.
Is your plan to back up the Library to the Cloud?

Importing from iPhoto '11 to Aperture 3.2 - no keywords imported!

I've tried importing my IPhoto '11 (9.2) library into Aperture 3.2 now THREE times -- the last time via a clean re-install, yet none of my iPhoto keywords show up with my photos in Aperture. Otherwise the import went ok. Any ideas what went wrong and how to fix? Thank you. //Steve

Hello!
Naturally, after I post here, the latest import worked. All keywords seem to be on my photos (along the bottom of my photos).
I imported the photos via Aperture "import" function, and chose "import iPhoto library," "leave in current location." -- The first two times there were no keywords along the bottom of my photos in Aperture, nor in the metadata for any of my photos.
My latest trick was finding the keyword list in Aperture - they are in the Keyword HUD under "iPhoto" and then nested down in there.
A follow up: My iPhoto library seems to be complete in Aperture, but Aperture continues "Processing...." with no further details. Any clue what it's doing? Thanks for your quick reply. //Steve

IPhoto -- edited via aperture

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