Iphoto library over SMB for multiple computers?

hi!
is there a way to make one central library that multiple users from different computers can access and read all at the same time?
so far, i have the library located on a linux fileserver that our admin setup. Each mac can access the library fine, but no two macs can access them at the same time.
If one machine access it and the preferences are set on shared, the Folder structure disappears and it all becomes just albums when viewed on other computers.
i'm scouring the internet for a solution, but haven't found any. will be giving up soon as it looks like only one iPhoto app can access the central library at a time.

Yes that would be the Library.
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