Iphoto or aperture 3 help

If I have aperture 3 should i get rid of iPhoto and just transfer all my photo to aperture 3 ??

There is nothing to transfer. iPhoto and Aperture share the same library format. You can simply open your iPhoto Library in Aperture, if you have the latest iPhoto version and use both programs on the same library.
See this support article: Aperture 3.3: Using a unified photo library with iPhoto and Aperture
You can also use Aperture to merge all your iPhoto Libraries into one, single library, see:
Aperture 3.3: How to use Aperture to merge iPhoto libraries
But even, if you will only use Aperture in future, I'd not delete iPhoto. You may find it useful to have occasionally, see Keep iPhoto - It May Come in Handy!
Regards
Léonie

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Iphoto to Aperture Help

Hello everyone,
I have used Iphoto for years and now would like to make the switch to Aperture. I have already imported my 14,000+ photos into Aperture from iphoto, however I see that Aperture is just referencing the original iphoto library. Is there a way to convert the iphoto library to an Aperture library?
My problem with Aperture referencing the iphoto library is now if I import photos from my camera it goes into the Aperture library. Now I have the iphoto library and the Aperture library. I would much rather like to have just one library with all my photos in it. Less confusing and less of a chance I will lose something.
Thank you all
James

When you select "import" in Aperture look on the far right of the window.
You will see "store files".
If you select "in the Aperture library" that should do it.
Guessing for some reason it's set to "in their current location.
To relocated the current masters:
Moving Referenced Masters to the Aperture Library
You can move referenced images’ masters (referenced masters) to the Aperture library. For example, if you have a variety of masters stored in different hard disk locations but it would be more convenient to work with them all stored in the Aperture library, you can select the referenced images in the Browser and Aperture can move their masters to the library. With the masters stored in the library, Aperture manages all aspects of them, keeping them always available and allowing you to back them up in your vaults.
To move referenced masters to the Aperture library
In the Browser, select the referenced images whose masters you want to move to the library.
Choose File > Consolidate Masters.
Choose whether or not you want the image files moved or copied into the Aperture library by clicking the “Move files” or “Copy files” button.
Click Continue to confirm that you want the referenced masters moved to the Aperture library.
If you search "moving referenced masters" in the help file. you will see that along with other info.
good luck

Migrating back to iPhoto from Aperture: help?

After giving Aperture the ole college try, I've decided it's more complex than I need (and my MacBook Pro evidently continues to struggle with it's memory demands).
What's the easiest way of transferring all the photos I subsequently imported into Aperture into iPhoto?
In iPhoto I went to File>Show Aperture Library and dragged an Aperture project into iPhoto and the pictures appeared to now be in iPhoto. Is that all I need to do?
Just wondering if after I delete Aperture if I'll end up having duplicate photos stored on my computer.
Thanks
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Sounds like you have discovered how to migrate the photos yourself.
By importing via iPhoto you have just exported a whole number of jpegs into your iPhoto library (that is the name of the file - you can find it in the pictures folder of your home directory). These jpegs will be at the resolution that was set in your Aperture preferences.
Once you are sure of your transition all you need to do is find your aperture library file - also in the pictures folder - and delete this.
Might I recommend making a backup copy of your Aperture library (before you delete it) somewhere like an external drive. Aperture can do this easily for you using it's vault settings. This way if you ever come back to the fold your photos will be in their original glory (RAW perhaps) and not constrained to the jpeg export settings that iPhoto has access to.

Aperture and iPhoto Duplicate Photos - Help Please

Hi,
I've recently moved to Mac OS from a PC and in doing so copied over all the photos from my PC and backup drives, flash drives etc with the intention of clearing them all up using iPhoto (or Aperture which I have just purchased from the App Store). There are A LOT of duplicates in the library now.
I realise after reading some of the posts here that I may have made a terrible mistake as I thought I would be able to easily organise my photos and delete duplicates which are taking up valuable disk space (I have almost 30,000 photos including the dupes).
I've read through a lot of the posts here and it seems most of these photos will now have been duplicated again by iPhoto and that there's not a simple solution to get rid of all the original dupes to free up some disk space.
Can anyone offer some help (bearing in mind I am fairly new to my Mac).
Many thanks,
Paul

For a quick solution to weed out the duplicates that iPhoto created you could use the keywords that Aperture sets on the originals and duplicates during the import. Have a look at the keywords in the Metadata Inspector panel. The exact name of the keyword depends somewhat on the image format that you import.
In my library I see the keywords: iPhoto Original, iPhoto Externally Edited,iPhoto Converted, iPhoto.
If you just want to keep the originals, that you imported into iPhoto and get rid of all the other versions, do the following:
- create a smart album "keep" by defining
     keywords include any of the following: "iPhoto Original"
     (and optionally "iPhoto Externally Edited", if you want to keep your edits)
- create a smart album "delete" by defining
      keywords do not include any of the following: "iPhoto Original"
      (and optionally "iPhoto Externally Edited", if you want to keep your edits)
Then select all of your pictures in "keep" and flag them,
select all of your pictures in "delete" and reject them,
open the "rejected" album and have a look, if it contains any flagged pictures, if not, trash the rejected pictures.
That should take care of plenty of your duplicates.
Hope that helps a little
Leonie

I am unable to change location for editing photos. I tried the advanced drop down menu in iPhoto and have 2 locations for editing-iphoto and aperture. I want to add photoshop. Can anyone help? Thanks.

i cannot change editing location from aperture to photoshop in iphoto. i followed directions to advanced tab in iphoto and have 2 choices for editing photos-iphoto and aperture. any suggestions on how to change the sites? thanks.

Not sure why you would have Aperture there as it's not an editor.
To change, just select Aperture again, and this will give you the dialogue to change the choice.
Regards
TD

Using both iPhoto and Aperture workflow help

I am using both aperture 3 and iPhoto 9 to edit and keep track of images
I imported images to iPhoto the have Aperture import the iPhoto library this way I have i library..I know if something happens to it I am screwed
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program

Here's the best advice for using both iPhoto and Aperture:
Pick one horse and ride it. They both do the same job. If you're shooting Raw or high volumes of Jpeg, then definitely go with Aperture. If you're doing family snaps with a point and shoot stick with iPhoto. Using both adds unnecessary complexity to everything, and with complexity comes the risk of error and data loss.
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
Yes. In a wholly different way, mind you, but yes. WHen you edit an image in iPhoto it creates a new file called the Modified Version. You can always revert to the Original photo. If you edit only with iPhoto then you can also avoid generational loss.
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
No.
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
You can't.
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program
It makes no sense to use both programs.
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
What are you hoping to achieve by running both?
Regards
TD

Help to make iPhoto mirror Aperture

I have not used iPhoto recently but after updating Aperture to 3.3 I now would like to use iPhoto again but would like it to mirror Aperture with the same albums, smart albums, etc. Now when I open iPhoto the library is there but no albums. Can iPhoto do this automatically and update automatically from aperture. I'd rather not set up the albums and maintain them manually.

There are some limitations on using the unified Aperture / iPhoto Library:
Aperture books and webpages will not be visible in iPhoto; and images that you have hidden in iPhoto cannot be made visible in Aperture.
Have a look at this KB article: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5043, i.e. the last section: Notes on working with unified libraries in iPhoto and Aperture
Regards
Léonie

Help for an iPhoto-to-Aperture noob?

I'm currently shaking down the Aperture demo, throwing all of my photos at it. Generally, I'm really liking it, but I've run into something that's either odd, or I just haven't figured it out.
When I imported my iPhoto files, Aperture turned all of my "rolls" into projects. Makes sense.
Only problem is that my iPhoto intall was broken into multiple libraries, and now all of my Aperture projects are broken apart into four different subfolders. I thought the fix would be easy -- just grab all of the projects and drag them into one folder to keep them together.
But I can't select multiple projects. Aperture will allow me to drag the projects, but only one at a time. This isn't going to work with more than 500 projects -- I'd be at it all day.
Is this just a limitation of how Aperture's designed, or am I just being, well, a noob and missing the obvious?
Thanks for any advice.
Tim

Joe Schorr just did a webcast on this:
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/06/01/iphoto-to-aperture.html
Probably worth a view first.

Print quality difference between iphoto and aperture...?

when ordering books, is there a print quality difference between using iPhoto and Aperture? or are they sent to the same lab?
it's possible i may have some setting wrong, but when i order a book using iphoto, i never really feel the quality is that great. it's good, i just feel it could be a lot better. the print quality sort of reminds me of newsprint, albeit high quality newsprint. similar sized prints made at home on my basic 3-in-1 printer look better.
thanks...

Previews are what you view on your display. When you import a photo into Aperture (and I'm pretty sure iPhoto as well), your computer automatically generates a preview for quick viewing. The original images are stored in your library, but it is the preview that you see.
In Aperture, you are able to set the size and quality of these previews. When sharing photos between Aperture and iPhoto, the process is as follows:
Let's say that your images are stored in Aperture, but you also want to be able to view them in iPhoto without taking up too much room on your hard drive. Essentially, if you were to import the originals into iPhoto as well, you would be storing two exact, yet separate copies of the same image on your hard drive. As you are aware, with large images (whether JPEG's, and especially RAW) this would put quite a tax on your storage capacity after not too long.
So, you have your images in one or the other (in this case Aperture), but you want to play around with them in iPhoto. What you can do, is open iPhoto, go to the File menu and then select, Show Aperture Library. This will open a window with all of the contents of your Aperture Library. You can then drag any images you want into iPhoto . The only thing is, you are not dragging the original JPEG's, but rather, the previews of those images. If you have those previews set to a lower quality (again for capacity concerns), you will only have lower quality and lower detailed images in iPhoto. These images might not be ideal, or even suitable for printing high quality prints. The previews that you generate in Aperture though can be adjusted to be extremely high quality with no size limits.
My thinking was that since you mentioned Aperture, it sounded like you had experience with working with it and with ordering a photo book through Aperture. I guess you were saying that you ordered via iPhoto, weren't happy with the quality and were wondering if Aperture created books were better.
Anyway, if this is the case, I cannot answer that for you. I have never ordered a book through Aperture. If the quality of your images is good, you should be able to get a decent product no matter where you order it from. There is not doubt that the materials used and the print shop that does the work makes a difference, but if your images are good, you should still get a decent product through iPhoto. Perhaps iPhoto isn't the way to go though if you have had poor experiences with them.
If you haven't used Aperture yet, I would highly recommend it though aside from the photo book aspect of this thread. It is a stellar product.
I hope this helps.
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What is the best way to organize photos? iPhoto or Aperture?

I am a mom taking tons of photos of my young children. On my old PC I used to organize everything within "My Pictures" by Month & Year (May 2008). I am a very organized, linear person and don't like to change the way I do things midstream so I am having a hard time figuring out how to organize our family photos now that I have switched to a Mac with iPhoto and Aperture. In the future I hope to learn about Aperture's professional tools (which as a mom & not a professional photographer I currently do not use). I would love to take photography classes at a local community college someday...
My questions are as follows:
1) What is the better way for ME to store our photos? Should I be uploading to iPhoto or Aperture? I basically want all of my "master photo images" in the same location in an organized fashion. I am hoping to do this without clogging up my computer. At this point I am thinking at the end of each year I will burn the year's photos to a disk for save keeping. But until then...
2) Is the "library" the over-arching place where all photos are stored? In general, I am having a hard time following the hierarchy of where my photos are being stored, how to organize them and how to completely delete bad photos.
3) Can I do everything I can do in iPhoto in Aperture? Obviously I know I can do more but is it as easy to edit/fix up photos?
I have listened to/watched several tutorials on both programs and have read through many other folks' questions/answers but I am still not sure of what to do.
I really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give!
Thanks!

I'm not a professional either, just a grandma with a love of digital photography who takes lots of photos. We used to live in a motorhome full time, so we had lots of opportunities to take many photos.
I personally like Aperture better than iPhoto because I like to use some of the NIK software/plugins where I can do the adjusting right in Aperture and don't always have to send the photos to PhotoShop. Also you have a bit more flexibility as to file set ups with Aperture. In iPhoto you don't have as many nesting capabilities. iPhoto is great, but pretty basic.
I had my photos set up as files on the PC, long before I got my first Mac. So I set them up the same way. I'll try to explain
In Finder:
Pictures (in side bar on left in Finder)
Folder - My Photos
2nd Folder - by year
In the year folder I have a folder by date ie: 20000722 (year,month,date) and the photos from that date in there.
Once I got to using Aperture, I have my years set up as "projects" and the dates set up as "Albums". When importing the whole set of photos into Aperture, it was easy. I highlighted the "library", then did a right mouse click and selected "import folders as projects". That imported the photos into Aperture the same way I have them in finder.
Once everything is in Aperture, and you have new photos to add, I make an album under the corresponding year and import.
I do all my photos as referenced and don't duplicate them again, as I have them backed up in a couple of other places.
IMHO you can't back up enough! Don't wait and do it only once a year! Hard drives have a way of crashing and you'll loose all your photos. Use DVD's, thumb drives, ext. hard drives or what ever works for you. But always back up.
When I take my photos off of the memory card, I immediately send a copy to the back up external HD. Once the photos are adjusted etc. I make sure I have a copy elsewhere too. Only then do I erase them off of the memory card. Might be a bit redundant, but I'm not about to loose any of my photos. When we lived in the motorhome we were always aware of the possibility of theft or fire. So I got in the habit of taking some time to reduce the size of the photos and keep them on a thumb drive that I kept out of the RV. If anyone broke in or we had a fire, I'd still have the photos. Maybe not the originals or the bigger size, but we wouldn't loose them either.
If you want more info on non professional filing, send me a PM and I can send you a photo of my file hierarchy . (suemach (at) mac (dot) com)
Allie

How do I migrate iMovie project data/pointers from iPhoto to Aperture?

This may be a rather tricky question but here is what I want to do. I have 22GB of Photo's/Video's in iPhoto that I originally used at some point in the past to create some travel home movies. I currently have about 44GB of Photo's/Vid in Aperture. I like Aperture so much that I never use iPhoto anymore.
I've started moving just the albums with pictures in iPhoto over to Aperture. (simple enough) But now I have a lot of space I need to free up.
My question is possibly broken down into 2 parts.
1) How do I move albums with photo's & video to Aperture and index them accordingly without affecting the iMovie projects that link to the original iPhoto data?
I want to keep my iMovie projects the way they are, in editable form, thus eliminating the need for iPhoto, so I can clean up 22GB.
2) In iMovie, on the left window pane, it says "iPhoto Library" & "Aperture Library", with all the old iMovie projects pointing to the iPhoto library. Would moving the rest of my iPhoto library into Aperture automatically purge iMovie editable video projects?
I've backed everything up onto an external hdd, so I would sincerely appreciate any help on this topic. It sounds complicated, but I think it should be fairly straightforward. However, I thought I'd ask the community before actually attempting to do so.
Again, appreciate your help folks. Thanks.

Thanks for your suggestions, However I tried to do a simple test on one very short iMovie project and this is what has occurred:
Setup: (iPhoto '11, iMovie '11, Aperture 3.1.1 - All up to date)
to understand what's going on, prior to what I did below this is how my projects are setup, iPhoto has an event & album tagged F1 Montreal Weekend '08 with both photo / video. (my test project for the purposes of trying to get this to work) iMovie has a project I created based on that photo video and it's saved as an iMovie project called 'F1 Montreal' with references to the iPhoto database.
Action:
First, in Aperture, I imported the whole iPhoto event above which brought over all 192 photos and about 36 videos. I then filed it in aperture under my new way of storing albums/videos and created a smart album for video within the Aperture project. Once I verified all the data is there, I then trashed the iPhoto event and album mentioned above to free up some space since it's now in Aperture. Finally, i closed both iPhoto & Aperture and loaded up iMovie.
Results:
The project 'F1 Montreal' shows up as normal, with all its edits and such after clicking edit project. However, there is a little yellow exclamation mark that says this on every slice of video:
"This clips media file is not currently available.
/users/{me}/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Masters/2008/F1 Montreal/{moviehere}.mov"
After some research on what this is and how to fix it, it seems there's no menu option to repoint the movie files to a different location, am I missing something or have I moved / merged these files the wrong way? Apparently there is some help in the iMovie help file that shows how to reconnect data, but I can't find it anywhere.
I would really appreciate any additional help on how to do this. I'm sure someone's tried doing this before, yes?
Thanks!

Importing photos from iPhoto to Aperture

Importing from cd, Nikon camera, and cf memory card to Aperture Library is working well for me; but importing from iPhoto is troublesome.
If I import from the iPhoto Library (a Library that has always seemed unnecessarily complex to me), there is neither rhyme nor reason to the import. If I import from within the open iPhoto program, everything comes out badged--even when I send the information to the Aperture Library.
Does anyone have a preferred way of importing albums and smart albums from iPhoto to Aperture?
Do you think it might be best to simply leave what is on iPhoto there, and start fresh with new photos in Aperture?
Thanks for your input,
Dennis
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I tried importing iPhoto ONCE. Ugh.
After deleting it (how arcane are rolls when Aperture
allows much better control), I then used reference
iPhoto library. Same issue with structure of course,
but at least it no longer duplicated space.
I then used Aperture's speed at selecting to
determine what I wanted to import into Aperture. I
then created my project and folder structure in
Aperture and drag/dropped my selected images to my
target project. Then I killed off the iPhoto
reference.
G.
Thanks, David, your response helps me feel somewhat less foolish/incompetent.
I had actually made peace with iPhoto5, using a combination of albums and smart albums,after disliking all the previous versions. Now, I just want iPhoto out of the way.
Last night I imported all iPhoto material into
Aperture (rolls, ugh!!). In addition, I set up two special albums for prized family photos.
After looking it over again this morning and reading your thoughts, I think that I will keep only the two special albums (from iPhoto) in Aperture, leave in iPhoto all the pictures that started out there, and backup the iPhoto pics on external hard drive. And never put anything else in iPhoto.
Once again, thanks for your helpful thoughts.
Dennis
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Comparing counts after conversion: iPhoto to Aperture

Well, I just finished a major conversion from iPhoto to Aperture. 47,000 photos and videos in a 303 gigabyte iPhoto Library. It was a long and winding road, and I learned a lot about how to compare counts of photos and videos between iPhoto and Aperture. I hope this information helps someone spend a few less hours on the task than I had to.
After an iPhoto-Aperture library conversion, the first check you'll probably want to do, to confirm all went well, is to compare the number of photos and/or videos reported from each application. You'll probably compare the overall total, and/or the total for important subgroups (say, all photos keyworded "family".) Here are some things to be aware of:
- You can run iPhoto and Aperture at the same time, even if Aperture is referencing the photos in their iPhoto library locations. This can make various count comparisons easy. Sometimes though I found the apps suddenly bogged down, and I had to quit one of the two to recover (this was on a 4GB 2.93 GHz iMac).
- Whether your Aperture "stacks" are open or closed affects the photo count reported by Aperture. If you edit an original photo in iPhoto, in the end all you see is edited photo, the original is preserved but tucked away unseen. In terms of a photo count, you still have just one photo. When this photo is imported into Aperture, it comes in as a 2-photo stack (original & edited). If you stacks are closed, your counts should match; if your stacks are open, Aperture will be higher.
- Photos "hidden" in iPhoto come in as "rejects" in Aperture (i.e. a rating of "X" on a scale of X,1,2,3,4 or 5 stars). When the search box in Aperture says "Showing All," you are including the rejects in the count (that is, the count appearing at the bottom of the window in browser mode). If it says "Unrated or better," the rejects are not being counted. Make sure you are consistently including or excluding hidden/rejects when comparing numbers.
- Formats supported by iPhoto but not by Aperture. I have some old (pre-OS X) screenshots in PICT format. Viewable just fine in iPhoto, but they do not get imported into Aperture.
- Some video formats (in my case, MPEG1 Muxed) are imported into Aperture, but are not playable within Aperture, and do not show up if you filter on File Type = Video (that last part seems just plain wrong behavior).
- Every count I saw in Aperture included videos, even when the count was labeled "Photos" (e.g. "23,434 Photos"—you'll see this under Projects, if you group by folder)
- I did have a few items that were *just plain skipped*, with no error dialog, by the import. Scary. But in every case, there was evidence of a problem in iPhoto: I would see a fine thumbnail, but if I tried to open the photo or video, I'd see a gray exclamation point where the photo/video should appear. In every case I successfully found an valid original (in the iPhoto "Originals" folder) and moved it manually into Aperture. Problem is, are you going to try and view every photo you have in iPhoto, checking for exclamation points? I tracked my missing photos/videos down by painstakingly comparing counts in matching slices of time (say, August 2006) in iPhoto and Aperture. When I narrowed a count discrepancy to a set of 100 pics or so, I compared thumbnails between the 2 apps until I found the item missing from Aperture. Not fun.
I hope this helps somebody. Now that I've made the switch, I have a love-hate relationship with Aperture. Mostly love. But that is a separate post. Aperture is also my first Pro app from Apple, and iPhoto and Aperture make a fascinating case study in contrasting user interface design (freedom from choice vs. options galore). Also a topic for another post.
Mike M

Hey, thanks for the comprehensive post. It helped me quite a bit and probably saved me a lot of time; I'm sure it did the same to a lot of people who didn't have an account here as well.

No pics appear in iphoto and aperture sidebar since iLife 11

With the update of iLife11 the pics disappeared from the sidebar under iPhoto and Aperture.
While the sidebar for Audio, Movies and Widgets runs well, only the running upload icon appears beside of iPhoto and Aperture.
Why does iWeb not find the pics?!
How to help iWeb to get access to the photo libraries?
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Thomas

Since it works OK in your wife's account it could be a preference file that is causing the problem in your account. Here's how to determine if that's the problem:
Trouble Shooting Preferences in Leopard/Snow Leopard
1 - close all applications.
2 - open your Library folder, Home/Library, and drag the Preferences folder to the Desktop. A new Preference folder will be immediately created in the Library.
3 - run the application again and determine if the problems is fixed.
4 - If the problem is fixed:
A - open the working Preferences folder (HD/Users/your_name/Library/Preferences).
B - Open the Preferences folder on the Desktop, select all of the contents and drag them into the working Preferences folder.
C - When the Copy window pops up check the "Apply to All" check box and then click on the Don't Replace button.
Click to view full size
5 - If the problem is NOT fixed, drag the Preferencess folder on the Desktop into the Library to replace the new one that was created.

Photo Stream activation fails in iPhoto and Aperture

Hi,
i've just updated to OSX 1.7.2 on my iMac and MBA and to iOS5 on my iPhone 4S and iPad 2. Everything basically works well except the iCloud photo stream on my mac.
iPhone and iPad play well and push and pull fotos from the photo stream.
On the mac i can't activate the photo stream. I've updated iPhoto and Aperture but when i try to activate the photo stream it says that it's unable to reach the photo stream. I've already logged out from i cloud and re logged in again but that didn't help. iPhoto and Aperture are the latest versions.
Anyone with an idea?
Addition: Activation works well on another iMac with another iCloud account from my girl friend (in the same local network), i've also double checked little snitch isn't blocking anything.
Addition 2: It also works on my MBA with the same iCloud account that doesn't work on the iMac. Weird,

I'm fairly certain that it's an account-wide preference. You could always enable a second user account, turn on Fast User Switching, and only swap to that account to launch iPhoto and do your Photo Stream business.

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