IPhoto prints are muddy

I printed the same picture, same size, same printer -- using my Macintosh (OS X 10.4.9); then using my PC. The mac print was dark and muddy and did not match the same picture on the mac monitor, which looked fine. The PC printed as in the past--color of print and monitor matched. I have seen some discussion about this problem but don't understand how to fix it or what the problem is--the printer is an HP PhotoSmart P1000.
Thanks for your help

Your first steps should be to go through the print services documentation to see what settings and formats they expect.
A call to their technical department explaining your situation would be useful also. It is very likely that they have encountered your problem in the past and have some ready suggestions to address it.
Once you know what settings and formats you need to be using in Aperture, if you have any questions post back.
regards

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Jeff et al:
I did as you advised, and imported another folder of layered master files into LR. The first folder that I imported I had used the "none" development preset. On the second imported folder I used the "Zeroed" preset as per your suggestion.
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Airren:
Are you printing with Photoshop from within iPhoto? I mean are you printing the file that iPhoto generated upon importation and/or editing? How do you have Photoshop's color management preferences set up? Is PS doing the managing, i.e. applying a specific profile and using that like I have here?
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Just thought of something else you can try. Duh. Should have mentioned it first: delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder. If prints are still dark log into another account and try printing from iPhoto there. If prints a good there then post back. If they aren't then iPhoto is definitely the culprit somehow.
P.S. Just reread my post and it does seem a little rambling but I do that sometimes while trying to come up with other solutions to try. Hope you can get thru it OK.
OT
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