IPhoto RAW Images Compress after Editing!!

Has anyone noticed that after editing a RAW picture in iPhoto that it compresses to less than half it's size?
If I have a file that that is 11.2mb, after the edit it drops to 1.9mb.
Is this a setting I am missing?
Message was edited by: Richard Hagan

Yes, it will show a smaller size. But if you drag that thumbnail to the desktop you'll find you have a jpg file which is the results of your editing the raw file in iPhoto. What iPhoto is reporting is the file size of the jpg that will created if you need to produce an file of that edited RAW file. Until you drag it to the desktop the edit (or rather edit instructions) are kept in iPhoto's database files and iPhoto uses that information to display the edited version in iPhoto.

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Subject: When using Camera raw with PS12 after editing, I cannot save my file in JPEG, only DNG
When using Camera raw with PS12 after editing, I cannot save my file in JPEG, only DNG
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Please can someone help me with this.
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2013ALAM wrote:
Please can someone help me with this.
I look at my RAW images in Organiser and then I use the EDIT tap to move to the RAW IMAGE edit section with the image I want to edit.
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although I can see a small thamb-nail of the image it does not open but keeps on searching.
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
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To be sure I understand your workflow, I'll put it in my own words...
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