IPhoto transfer to Aperture..now I have 3 libraries?
So here's what I have done. after several months with Aperture and iPhoto, i decided to just use Aperture. Up until now, I was using an iPhoto referenced library with Aperture (i think that's right) and not using iphoto unless the photo was not in aperture. So, i guess i was using 2 separate libraries. Aperture for newer, and iPhoto for older, but when i started using Aperture i think i set it up so i didn't disturb iPhoto.
Please forgive my ignorance, here is what it says for libraries in aperture:
iPhoto library Version 9.3.2
Aperture library.aplibrary(current default)
Aperture library-iphoto.aplibrary
That said, not all the photos transferred from the iphoto library to the Aperture library. I had to update the iphoto library before i could merge them. i have narrowed down the approximate dates of the photos that didn't transfer from iphoto to aperture. i want to have 1 library...just aperture and delete the iphoto library completely. Oh, and now I have only 1.21G left on my HD!!! I have 21,000 photos in Ap and about 19,000 in iphoto, so my machine is dying. don't want any disasters, so i need to do this now.
i am on an iMac mid-2007. 4GB memory with a tiny HD 250G. I can't upgrade the HD at this time. i do have a brand new MBP with a large HD and 8G HD. i also want to have ALL my photos on that, in Aperture only, so ??? I'm running Mountain Lion on all computers.
I really appreicate any input and hope i've made a modicum of sense. Everything is backed up on an EHD.
Thanks in advance!
donna
I use Aperture on a MacBook with 2GB of RAM. It is the Core Duo 2Ghz, not the newer Core 2 Duo. Performance varies from great to painfully slow. All in all, I'd call it acceptable until a better machine and/or software fixes come along.
The fast parts are on the library side, with searching, key-wording, sorting, etc.. as fast as I could ever wish.
The slow parts are in adjustments and exporting. They are both related because exporting is slow because it applies all the adjustments to generate the result file. Adjustments can get glacially slow, especially some combinations. Once you have applied crop and/or straightening to an image, all other adjustments get slower. Spot and patch varies from fast to unusable. Highlight and shadow adjustments are slow and make the others really slow, etc... A big improvement would come from having a proper GPU, which the MacBook lacks. The implication is also that CoreImage programming for the CPU is really not optimal, because other products do the same tasks much quicker with the same CPU. Maybe a deep revision of CoreImage could bring a big improvement.
Until then, it is hard to advise anyone to go and buy a MacBook to run Aperture. I find it acceptable for my needs, but that's it. For a portable, a MacBook Pro seems to be much better. On the desktop the iMac 24" with 3GB of RAM and the nVidia 7600GT seems to be tailor-made to run Aperture.
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This will transfer your images, but not the work you put into organizing your library (albums, etc.)
Also you will only get the masters or the edited versions. By importing the library you can get both as master-versions pairs (as far as possible).
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I am having trouble opening my iPhoto library in Aperture now that it has been transferred to an external hard drive.
Versions being used:
MacBook Pro 13-inch mid-2010
OS X v. 10.9.1 Mavericks
Aperture v. 3.5.1
iPhoto v. 9.5.1
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Léonie
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Hello,
I am a longtime iphoto user and installed aperture this past december. At that time I imported all my iphoto photos as referenced files and kept them in their iphoto location. Since that time, every photo I took was uploaded directly into aperture and stored there. I am now comfortable enough with aperture that I would like to use it as my primary photo viewer / manipulator and would like to merge my two libraries into one single aperture library. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out how to do this.
I tried consolidating all originals yesterday, however this did not seem to have any effect. I then tried reimporting my iphoto library, however, this simply duplicated many of my events (and the duplicated ones were not even adjustable via aperture, and each photo had a little exclamation point in the lower right corner). Both of these attempts did nothing to combine my aperture projects and my iphoto events (which are now seen as a seperate iphoto tab under projects). I am aware that I can now switch to my iphoto library within aperture in version 3.3, but I just want everything stored in one place and in my aperture library. Can someone please help me with this?
The only thing I can think of is deleting all of the iphoto events from aperture and then reimporting them, but I am scared I will either delete something permenantly or that they will simply reimport as referenced files and remain within iphoto.
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I am not quite clear about the current state of your iPhoto and Aperture libraries. It looks like you have plenty of broken links to referenced masters in either library. Whatever you do now, it is very important to ensure that you have a working backup, both of your iPhoto Library and your Aperture library, before you try a major reconstruction.
I tried consolidating all originals yesterday, however this did not seem to have any effect.
In what way did it not have any effect? From the effects you are describing, it looks like all your original master images have been removed from the iPhoto Library and are now inside the Aperture library as managed masters - at least, this would explain, why trying to import the iPhoto library resulted in duplicated projects (and the duplicated ones were not even adjustable via aperture, and each photo had a little exclamation point in the lower right corner). You removed the original masters from the iPhoto library, and now you could not import it, since the originals are now in Aperture.
For me it looks, like you simply need to delete the iPhoto images marked with an exclamation mark, for these are already bound to images that you imported earlier. It is perfectly o.k. that the recently imported iPhoto Library appears in a separate section of the projects in your Library Inspector Panel. Each iPhoto event should appear as a project. Aperture will put them there, so you can find them easily.
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Define some smart albums (File > New > Smart album) based on the file status: Add a rule: File status is.
One smart album: File Status is referenced
One smart album: File Status is managed
One smart album: File Status is missing
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Post back, when you have checked the file status of your images in Aperture and we can be sure were the images are exactly.
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Back up all data now.
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I would like to ask if it is possible to either:
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