IPhoto vs Aperature

I am a long time user of iPhoto. There are some new "plug-ins" in the market now, that seriously excite me, but as a plug-in, they won't work in iPhoto. There are currently 35K+ photos in my library. If I switch over to Aperature, what should I expect to happen to all my existing photos? Do I need to re-import them to Aperature? What happens to all my "faces" and "locations", - do they get lost? Should I try to maintain both applications, and if so, does that mean two libraries. I would assume that since both products are from Apple, that there is some internal linkage to bring the two together. Am I smoking funny cigarettes here? Any help apapreciated.
karl

The current releases of iPhoto and Aperture can share the same Library, so all your existing images, faces, locations, etc. in iPhoto should be preserved and available in Aperture. You can even continue to use both iPhoto and Aperture with the same Library.
Your profile indicates you are running Leopard (10.5) ... at this point you will need to upgrade to Mavericks. (See the tech specs for Aperture.)

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Process:         iPhoto [16467]
Path:            /Applications/iPhoto.app/Contents/MacOS/iPhoto
Identifier:      com.apple.iPhoto
Version:         9.3.2 (9.3.2)
Build Info:      iPhotoProject-670063000000000~1
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
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User ID:         502
Date/Time:       2012-08-29 08:13:11.505 -0700
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.8.1 (12B19)
Report Version: 10
Interval Since Last Report:          353189 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           27
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 36244 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   6
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Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. (In Library Manager it's the FIle -> Rebuild command)
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