Ipod 4G with bad memory

Hi all,
First time poster, so please be gentle. I'm having a problem with my 4G Ipod with colour display. When I finish using it I hold the play/pause button until it goes into standby and put the lock on. Normally, it fires straight back up when I turn the lock off, but I'm finding that if I don't use it for a couple of days it stays dead until I press the menu button. Instead of returning to the last played track, it goes to the apple logo and whirrs and clicks for a while before going to the first screen, as if it's been reset.
There is plenty of battery life, although the battery meter does seem to wander about a bit as it gets lower(goes from green into red and back into green) and I've tried both reset and restore without a change. No problems with syncing and it behaves as normal when I connect it to the computer.
Hope someone can help.

That sounds normal to me. If I power off (stand by) the iPod, or just let it do so by itself, and turn it back on soon, it resumes where it left off. If it powers off and I let it sit much longer, then it does the equivalent of a shut down. This is to conserve power. When it is in stand-by mode, it is like computer sleep, and is still using power to maintain that state. But if the user does not re-engage within a set time period (and I don't know what that time is), it powers off more completely so that the batteries are not drained entirely by the time the user tries to use it again a few days later (that would be annoying).
My 4th gen iPod works that way. Recent iPods like the touch may be different in this respect.

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I have read a number of help topics, forum posts and apples suggestions in fixing problems and have had no luck so I had to start a new topic.
- Ok, A while ago i was using my ipod one fine 'sunny' day (if that's relevant) and it just went bleap, dead. Wouldnt do anything at all. Eventually when I got it home I reset it and the apple logo would come up whenever I pressed any button, this is still the case. After i reset it, the folder with the lightning image appears then the apple logo and thats all it does, even after charging it. PS: I am using it on windows XP, but have a Mac laptop also if I can use that to my advantage somehow, it doesn't read on there either atm.
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See the following helps in your case ..........................................................
If a sad iPod icon or an exclamation point and folder icon appears on your iPod’s screen, or with sounds of clicking or HD whirring, it is usually the sign of a hard drive problem and you have the power to do something about it now. Your silver bullet of resolving your iPod issue – is to restore your iPod to factory settings.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60983
If you're having trouble, try these steps at different levels one at a time until the issue is resolved. These steps will often whip your iPod back into shape.
Make sure you do all the following “TRYs”
A. Try to wait 30 minutes while iPod is charging.
B. Try another FireWire or USB through Dock Connector cable.
C. Try another FireWire or USB port on your computer .
D. Try to disconnect all devices from your computer's FireWire and USB ports.
E. Try to download and install the latest version of iPod software and iTunes
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
For old and other versions of iPod updater for window you can get here
http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=7369
F. Try these five steps (known as the five Rs) and it would conquer most iPod issues.
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G. Try to put the iPod into Disk Mode if it fails to appear on the desktop
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Intermediate Level
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B. Still can’t see your iPod, put it in Disk Mode and connect with a computer, instead of doing a Restore on iPod Updater. Go and format the iPod instead.
For Mac computer
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3. Go to Tab “Erase” , choose Volume Format as “MAC OS Extended (Journaled), and click Erase, again if fails, skip it and go to 4
4. Same as step 3, but open the “Security Options....” and choose “Zero Out Data” before click Erase. It will take 1 to 2 hours to complete.
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For Window computer
Go to folder “My Computer”
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Eject your iPod and do a Reset
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=501330&tstart=0
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Tips
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c. You may need to switch around the PC and Mac, try to do several attempts between “Format” and “Restore”
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http://www.ifixit.com/
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Just in case that you are at the following situation
Your iPod warranty is expired
You don’t want to pay any service charges
You are prepared to buy a new one
You can’t accept the re-sell value of your broken iPod
Rather than leave your iPod as paper-weight or throw it away.
You can try the following, but again, only do it as your last resort and at your own risk.
Warning !!!! – It may or may not manage to solve your problem, and with a risk that you may further damage your iPod, which end up as an expensive paper weight or you need to pay more higher repairing cost. Therefore, please re-consider again whether you want to try the next level
Last Resort Level
1. . Disconnecting the Hard Drive and battery inside the iPod – Warning !! Your iPod warranty will be waived once you open the iPod.
In Hong Kong there are some electronic shops offering an iPod service for Sad iPod, the first thing they do is to open up the iPod’s case and disconnecting the battery and the Hard Drive from the main board of the iPod. Wait for 5-10 minutes and reconnecting them back. The reason behind which I can think of is to do a fully reset of a processor of the iPod. In case you want do it itself and you believe that you are good on fixing the electronics devices and have experience to deal with small bits of electronic parts, then you can read the following of how to open the iPod case for battery and HDD replacement (with Quicktimes)
http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/index.cfm?page=Video/directory.html
2.Press the reset button on the Hard Drive inside the iPod – Suggestion from Kill8joy
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Have I tried these myself? No, I am afraid to do it myself as I am squeamish about tinkering inside electronic devices, I have few experiences that either I broke the parts (which are normally tiny or fragile) or failed to put the parts back to the main case. Therefore, I agree with suggestion to have it fixed by a Pro.
2. Do a search on Google and some topics on this discussion forum about “Sad iPod”
Exclamation point and folder and nothing else
Spank your iPod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ljPhrFUaOY
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Exclamation point and folder and nothing else
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2831962#2831962
What should I do with my iPod? Send it or keep it?
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Strange error on iPod (probably death)
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Sad Face on iPod for no apparent reason
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Meeting the Sad iPod icon
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Sad faced iPod, but my computer won’t recognize it?
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=443659&tstart=30
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2420150#2420150
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I think my iPod just died its final death
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3813051
Apple logo & monochrome battery stay
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My iPod ism’t resetting and isn’t being read by my computer
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Quote “This has been discussed numerous times as a 'fix'. It does work, at least for a while. In fact I remember using the same basic trick to revive Seagate and Quantam drives back in the mid to late 1980's. Why these tiny hard drives go bad I don't know - could be the actuator gets stuck in place or misaligned. Could be the platter gets stuck or the motor gets stuck. 'Stiction' was a problem for drives back in the 80's. Unfortunately the fix can cause damage to the platter so we temporarily fix one problem by creating another. But I know of two instances where a little slap onto the table revived the iPods and they are still worked a year or more later.”UnQuote

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