IPod 4th Gen Click Wheel replaced hard drive; problems

Ok, So I replaced the 20gb hard drive with a new EXACT replacement hard drive, no other problems with iPod. But iTunes will not recognize it because the hard drive is not formatted. I tried formating it with Disk Utility but keep getting error messages. Im not sure what format to use. When the 4th gen came out Intel processors werent here so Im sure I need to simply format as Mac OS Extended. There is no HFS= format in Disk Utility. Im lost as to what to do. Please help??!

hmm - curiouser and curiouser
I've now managed to get it to manually update (after iTunes took 100% of system resources and I had to force quit it...) but that still doesn't really help me with the auto-sync feature which still won't work
aaaaaaggggggghhhhh

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I replaced the hard drive to a 30gig on my Ipod 4th gen. click wheel but it is still not recognized on my computer or in itunes......I get an error message with a folder and "!"....what can I do to fix??

I replaced the hard drive to a 30gig on my Ipod 4th gen. click wheel but it is still not recognized on my computer or in itunes......I get an error message with a folder and "!"....what can I do to fix??

Have you recharge the battery for at least 2 hours, or just leave it connected for 4 hours?
(When you replaced the Hardisk, you should also replace the battery.)
Some other iPod SSD sites, says that you may have to format the CF in FAT32, as Mac dont read NTFS drive so if Windows is the 1st PC that your CF is connected, it may be formatted to NTFS.
You can try erasing the CF using Disk Utilty, so that Mac can recognise it. (but not Windows)
Have a nice day!

4th gen click-wheel iPod not syncing

I have a 40GB 4th Gen click-wheel iPod that although works fine will not sync with my iTunes. I have done all normal troubleshooting items (5R's, restored factory settings, etc.). I am running it on an HP computer and have all software versions up-to-date. Specifically when I place the iPod into the docking station the connection begins, but then a loud whirring occurs and then the "Do Not Connect" message does not go away and I can't eject it. I have no warranty on the unit anymore and need to know if there is a fix or should I just take it to Apple store for troubleshooting.

Its a problem with iTunes 7. Many people are experiencing the same problems.
Here are just a couple examples:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3403194
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=705735&tstart=0

40GB 4th Gen click-wheel making strange noise

I have a 40GB 4th Gen click-wheel iPod that although works fine will not sync with my iTunes. I have done all normal troubleshooting items (5R's, restored factory settings, etc.). I am running it on an HP computer and have all software versions up-to-date. Specifically when I place the iPod into the docking station the connection begins, but then a loud whirring occurs and then the "Do Not Connect" message does not go away and I can't eject it. I have no warranty on the unit anymore and need to know if there is a fix or should I just take it to Apple store for troubleshooting.

An loud spin-related sound from the hard drive usually means it is failing.
My only suggestion is to put it into Disk Mode.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1363
Then connect it and see if Windows sees it as a hard drive. If so, use Windows to reformat (erase) the iPod's hard drive. Do a full format, instead of a quick format. If the formatting fails, that is a sign that the hard drive is going bad. If it completes successfully, run iTunes again and use the Restore button on the iPod's pane.
Note: If it is still marginally working now as a player (but cannot sync), reformatting the iPod drive through Windows (if it fails the process) may cause it to become unusable as a player (because the drive will be erased and it will not sync).

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hmm - curiouser and curiouser
I've now managed to get it to manually update (after iTunes took 100% of system resources and I had to force quit it...) but that still doesn't really help me with the auto-sync feature which still won't work
aaaaaaggggggghhhhh

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I bought a 4th generation click wheel 40g ipod in May 06. In May 07 Apple told me that my hard drive was bad and to send it back for replacement. I sent it right to them in May and just received it back this month. I added a few songs tested it and it was working fine. Added 1000 songs and it was still working fine. I have used it less than 5 times since I got it back this month and it now won't do anything.
It is fully charged and moves from the apple screen to the sad ipod with the exclamation point and then to the battery symbol. I did the reset and all the steps and it is doing the same things my old one did. IS this common for this model? I'm calling Applecare in the morning but wish there was away around waiting months to get a new one.
Thanks

Unfortunately, it sounds like the replacement had a bad hard drive as well.
As far as "is this normal for this model?", a study conducted by MacinTouch has shown that 4th gen 40GB models are the most unreliable models there are.

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. They do not fix yours.
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I had to replace the Hard drive on my daughters laptop the old one crashed, along with her Library. The new hard drive is working fine(VISTA HOME PREM), she installed itunes 9. The Ipod will not sync or transfer any purchased music to the computer, Itunes recognizes the Ipod, and lists the songs on it. The problem occurs when we try to sync or transfer the music.
I though maybe something with her computer, I plugged it into my Laptop (XP PRO)
I opened Itunes, plugged in her ipod and it recognized it, I clicked on transfer purchased music, and it disconnects itself.
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Welcome to the discussions,
did you check if her computer is still authorized in the Store menu in iTunes? http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1420

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After several restores trying to get my ipod 4th gen. click wheel going (after installing iTunes 7 and the ipod becoming extremely buggy afterwards...) running diagnostic tests, etc., it turns out that the problem seems to be that every time I plug the ipod into my computer iTunes 7 tells me its "determing gapless playback information" which takes forever.
Of course, I thought that this gapless feature was only for newer iPod models so I'm puzzled why iTunes is doing this for my older model? Also it seems to have broken the playback when using the iPod - playback drops out in the middle of songs for instance.
I've now installed Linux on my iPod and Podzilla is playing back my files just fine, when I try with Apple's software - totally broken and disappointing.
Anybody know what's up? Are we waiting for Apple to release a fix for this? Why is my 4th Gen. apparently attempting the gapless playback?
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his is not operating system-specific, but I want to get it on the record somewhere since I could not find the solution anywhere else.
Last week, my third-generation 30GB iPod refused to go beyond the Apple logo on startup. It would power up, flash as if trying to go to the menu, but instead it would just show the Apple again. I tried all the usual recovery methods: resetting (hundreds of times and a couple of different ways), disk scans from the diagnostic menu, restoring with the latest iPod software and with an older version, fsck, using Disk Utility to repair and erase, Disk Warrior, letting the battery drain, everything.
Nothing worked ... until I used Disk Utility to reformat the disk with the "Zero Out Data" option (in the Security pop-up) enabled. This, apparently, reformatted the drive in such a way as to account for bad sectors. It took about an hour.
After that, I restored it with the latest iPod software, and to my delight, it booted normally. It now works fine.
Found that on web mite help you.... but i dont have a mac

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Lost ipod info on computer due to hard drive problem. Can I upload info on ipod back to my computer and how do i do it.

- Transfer iTunes purchases by:
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- Create a backup of the iPod by connecting the iPod to the computer. Right click on the iPod under Devices in iTunes and select Back Up.
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Help! folder icon w/ exclamation point - hard drive problem?

I live in the philippines and the store which i called up said the only solution is to show the receipt and they will send it to singapore but i still have to buy a new one. it's like they're not giving me choices at all. i know my iPod is not yet "dead", why do i have to buy a new one? how can i have this repaired?! it hasn't been a year yet, but around 10 months already and i don't have the receipt anymore.
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for the past week my iPod has been skipping songs, going to the next ones but doesn't play at all. sometimes it even freezes. and i hear this whirring sound at the back.
so i decided to connect it to the computer and erase all my songs first coz i thought maybe the problem was with the files. but iTunes didn't recognize the device. so i decided to reset it (so that the songs and my factory settings will be erased) by pressing menu and select at the same time. then after i did this the "do not disconnect" message kept on showing up and eventually it just stayed there. so i tried resetting again. the apple logo shows up but after a while the folder icon with exclamation point shows up. then it would turn off.
I tried restoring it with updater but it says it could not mount the ipod. so this might be a hard drive problem already. how can i solve this?
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Try calling their toll free number <probably charges apply when you're calling outside the US>, 1-800-827-0685.
Usually, they will send your machine to the nearest repair station. I think in SEAsia, repair stations are in Malaysia.
Your iPod comes with a universal warranty, so you could definitely have that repaired even without the receipt. <Im from the Philippines too. I what you mean...>
good luck!=D

I have a 4th gen 20G ipod whose hard drive has died. Are replacement hard drives available through the apple store?

I have a 4th gen 20G ipod whose hard drive has died. Are replacement hard drives available through the apple store?

I don't think Apple will do that repair for you, because the iPod is too old. I believe the hard drive type used in 4th gen and older iPods is no longer produced. There may be non-Apple shops who can do the repair, but they may be using a working part salvaged from a used iPod.
If you want to do the repair work yourself, and you are good at such things, this web site has repair guides
http://www.ifixit.com/Device/iPod_Original
(There are probably also YouTube videos on the topic.)
NOTE: There are two hard drive physical sizes. The thick version has two platters, and corresponds to the "thick" iPods (with double storage capacity). A 4th gen 20GB model should be the thin version. The hard drive used in iPods up to 4th gen should work interchangeably, but 5th gen and later iPods use a different type.
I have a 4th gen iPod that started out as a 20GB. The hard drive failed, so I put a compact flash card on an adapter in there. The adapter is like this one (I bought it a few years ago so it's probably not the same seller)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Compact-Flash-CF-SSD-To-Toshiba-IPod-1-8-inch-Adapte r-Black-/121174875639
The compact flash card is standard; I bought the cheapest one. I currently have an 8GB card in there, but prices have come down, so I may get a 64GB card soon. It works great with the 8GB card. No more hard drive spin-up delay. Battery lasts longer. It's lighter. And it should be more shock resistant.
The only mod I needed to make on the adapter was to bend over two pins 90º, where you place a jumper to set the drive to "master." The adapter plus CF card is actually smaller and thinner than just original 1.8-inch Toshiba hard drive; I used some thin foam packing material (cut to the right shape) to take up the excess space and ensure the adapter and card did not become disconnected.
The 4th gen iPod has excellent sound, compared to some later iPods.

Replacment Hard Drive from third party vendor for old 3rd gen Ipod

I have a 3 generation 20gb ipod, and after it`s 10,000 drop the hard drive dies. For several months I seach the net for a company to buy a replacment Hard Drive from. I settle upon "Ipodmechanic.com" for my replacement part becuase, they have a one year warrenty, apple certified, and have slightly cheaper prices than there competitors, plus the website looks nice. Anyway I order a 10gb instead of a 20 because I want to save some money and I don`t need all that space.
I get the Hard Drive a couple of days later and install it. Oviously something is wrong from the start and I figure It can be fixed with a restore from the ipod updater. Instead of a fix I get the words can not initilize restore please restore again. The situation continues to repeat itself with not solution. I can not fix my Ipod and I am stuck with a $140 Hard Drive. Also the packege the Hard Drive came in had in permenet marker, the words and symblo (Bad ?). I am not angary at what they sent me wether used or new, as long as it works. But what makes me angry is after I bought the Hard Drive Ipodmechanic stopped answering my emails. I had to ask for there phone number because it wasn`t posted on there site. I can not get in contact with them and if so I must request my bank to sees the fund they have of mine. I don`t believe they are doing this on purpose, maybe they are on vacation or had an emergancy but, it would be nice if they would inform there customers they are away, but, still with no respones what choice is there when they have my $140 and a warrenty they can not make good on.
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You can get a HD like this. It uses wifi to and an app to access the HD
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My 4th Generation click wheel 40 GB iPod is no longer recognized by iTunes.

Hi There,
The title actually says it all..
(My 4th Generation click wheel 40 GB iPod is no longer recognized by iTunes 7.4.2, although the iPod works fine.. iTunes keeps saying to reset it, but I don't see why I should)
The iPod seems to work just fine, so I'm not in a big hurry to erase all my songs audio books etc..
I am thinking that this is a problem with Macintosh iTunes version 7.4.2, from what I'm seeing, but how should I proceed?
Many thanks for any help.
Eric

Sounds like a dead battery. Take it into your local Apple store/Genius bar and see if there is anything they can do for you. Another option is to send it in to a third party repair company who can replace the battery at a pretty low cost.
B-rock

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