Ipod and firewire

I have a brand new Ipod Video 30 gig. I used a Firewire connection to my also new Imac Intel computer and all was well. However now when I try to connect with the Firewire cable the ipod gives me a message that Firewire in not supported on this ipod and to use the USB cable.
Has anone else had this problem. Okay I can use the USB and it is just as fast from this computer because of it having USB 11, but **** it should be able to use the Firewire cable as well.
I don't want to have to restore the ipod and wipe everything but I may have to unless there is a problem with the ipod itself. (I have tried doing the same thing on an ibook, with the same result, so it is not my Intel Imac causing the problem.)

I have a brand new Ipod Video 30 gig. I used a Firewire connection to my also new Imac Intel computer and all was well
You didn't use Firewire to sync the iPod.
The iPod does not have Firewire.
You can charge (but not sync) with a Firewire cable.
Okay I can use the USB and it is just as fast from this computer because of it having USB 11
You mean it has USB 2.0.
USB 2. 0 is backwards compatible to 1.1, but will use the faster 2.0 if the device has it.

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IPod and Firewire (I'm not even using Firewire but iPod is acting like i AM

I know this may sound strange, but whenever I plug my iPod into a USB cable (to charge or add songs) this message appears on the screen:
"Firewire connections are not supported. To transfer songs connect to the USB cable provided" "Press center to dismiss"
I can still charge it AND I'm using the USB cable they gave me with the 5th gen. iPod (which I assume is the USB2 cable or whatever).
I can't add my songs and it's making me really mad! Can anyone help?
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If your ipod worked normally and then started doing this it may be that there is dirty or bent pins or something on the ipod or cable connectors. It's worth a try to check them out, maybe with a magnifying glass. If you have access to another 5G cable you could try that too, along with trying it on another computer (be careful if that computer has itunes on it however - it could wipe your ipod content if it works!).
If none of that works then you should go thru the 5 R's:
http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/five_rs/

Big problems with Firewire iPod and camcorder - please help!

Hi all,
I don't know where else to turn with this problem. I think I've damaged my Firewire kit.
I have an iPod 4G 20GB and a Canon MV901 MiniDV Camcorder. I used them both over Firewire with my Pismo without difficulty, but I then tried video editing on my Windows machine with a firewire PCI card. Scrabbling around the back of my computer, I think I somehow managed to get the firewire cable to the camcorder in the socket upside down, reversing the power and data conncectors. Nothing really happened, but the camcorder stopped showing up. I tried it a good few times, then tried my iPod. By some bizarre coincidence, I think I managed to plug the iPod in the same way. Now, my iPod doesn't work on either the Windows machine or the Pismo over firewire, but does over USB2.0 on my Windows machine.
I measured the power going through the Firewire power pins as around 13.5 volts on my Pismo and the card, but the card also has an auxiliary power connector. This was disconnected when I tested it, but was connected when the iPod and camcorder were.
The thing I would like to know is whether a voltage spike of this size could fry the firewire controllers on both devices. The iPod's diagnostic mode detects that firewire is connected, but will not show up. Strangely, it still charges over firewire from either machine. Have I permanately damaged the firewire controllers?
Thanks in advance,
Rob Johnson

Rob,
If you mistakenly inserted the FireWire connector twisted 180 degrees, the power lines can be directly connected to the data lines and can result in a fried PHY (connects the port to the FireWire bridge) or the FireWire bridge itself.
You can take a look at the voltage specs for FireWire ports and see that your voltage readings are well withing specs:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58207
I am not sure where you go from here. You could try a known-good FireWire device connected to your Pismo and see if it works. If not, the data-side of the FW port may have failed. I don't know about testing the iPod or camcorder.
A possible cheap fix for the Pismo FireWire is a FireWire PC card; if running 10.x, it will just be a plug & play affair. However, unlike built-in FireWire ports, FireWire PC cards supply very little bus power. Your camcorder will work since it has it owns power supply (assuming there is no hardware failure) and but am unsure about the iPod. The iPod will not charge, of course, but it may still work in data transfers. There are a few FireWire PC cards that also have their own power supply.

Connecting iPod Classic to iMac with USB 1.1 and Firewire

I've just read the specs for the new iPod Classic and the requirements call for USB 2.0 to connect to a Mac. My older iMac does not have USB 2.0. Is the iPod backward compatible to 1.1 or Firewire or is this just not going to work?

Only way for you to use the newer "iPod Classic" is to buy a newer machine if yours can not be upgraded. It is how to make money now, new product means buy new machine to run them, gone are the days of making hardware backwards compatible, no profit in it. What Apple could have done was use its R & D center to make either the Firewire chip smaller or install a Firewire and USB 2.0 Chips in a Dock and have the iPod's internal USB 2.0 chip to switch off when dock connected and allow the electrons to pass through circuit and have the task of delegating to the dock to which ever format it is plugged into the machine. Remember when calling something "Classic" you are referring to the features that made it popular to begin with. Not only was its ease of use but it was for its Firewire connection was the fastest way to get hundreds of music files transferred in a matter of minutes not hours. That was the only choice until the 3G ipod and remained until the ipod photo. I have told Apple a thousand times by e-mail, phone and snail mail I would gladly pay extra to have the iPod with Video and firewire syncing through a dock or a custom iPod. But for now the only way for you to get what you really want is to build it yourself.

5G Ipod and G4 iMac with USB 1.0 and FireWire

So when I got my MacBook I gave my G4 iMac to my parents. My mom just got a 5G video ipod, and I'm wondering if she'll have any issues trying to upload music without USB 2.0. Can she use the firewire connector from her ipod mini? Can she use the USB cord in the USB 1.0 port? I know it will be slower, but will it work?
I think the "official" word is that only USB 2.0 is supported with the 5G ipod, but I hope this works.
Any help/tips would be appreciated.
Thanks.

The Fifth Generation iPod will sync music, photos, and other data with both USB 1.1 and 2.0, and can charge with FireWire. The FireWire connector from the iPod mini cannot be used to sync data with that model of iPod.
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60 gig ipod and see it has no firewire cable

I just opened my 60 gig ipod and see it has no firewire cable, just a usb cable.
Where do I get a firewire cable?
and
All I have is USB V1 will it work?

the new iPods are not working with firewire... I think you can purchase a firewire cable to plug your iPod, but it will only charge the battery, no transfer is possible
your iPod will work with usb 1, but it will be slower and it won't charge the battery
so you have to buy a usb power adapter (in an Apple Store or on the Apple web site)
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Video iPods, USB2, Firewire and older macs - a different approach

I've been trolling the discussion boards here because I find myself with the same problem many others have noted here: I just bought a family member a Video iPod (5G) for Christmas, I realize they no longer support firewire, only USB2 and I only own an older eMac that has firewire but NOT USB2 and no PCI slots for USB2 cards. I await Christmas with dread when, after opening their gift, they'll want to put content on their new 5G iPod and we'll sit around all day while that happens.
I'll not get into why Apple dropped firewire from the 5G iPods.
My different approach is that what is needed is a bridge connector or hub that will bridge a USB2 cable to a firewire port.
There are a number of combo hubs but these are just 2 hubs in one with each bus (USB2 and firewire) having it's own separate connection back to the host computer. And if you connect the USB cacle back to a host with USB1, System Profiler will tell you rthat your USB2 ports areoperating at "Up to 12 Mb/sec"
Even the Universal Dock will will not get USB2 speeds out of a mac with USB1 ports. It clearly states, :...allows you to connect your iPod with the cable that came with it."
I've done a lot of searching and the closest I've come up with is this:
http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/pixela-pixuvcdu1w-firewire-to-usb-20-bridge-cabl e-016285.php
but that goes the wrong way. Plus it's expensive ($80 - $90).
It's designed to connect a firewire equiped DV camcorder to a PC that only has USB2 ports.
To me this sounds like an opportunity for some of the 3rd party vendors playing in the Apple world (Griffin Technology, Belkin, XtremeMac etc) to fill what is obviously a a major need here. Reading these forums there seem to be many many people that have older Macs without USB2 and 5G iPods.
We need a USB2 to Firewire bridge connector for all of people with older macs and 5G iPods.
Someone please help us.
Bob Jakuc

Thank you for your response. I mention this in my original post. In fact, I bought one of these thinking it might solve my problem. It doesn't. In effect the D-Link DFB-H7 is 2 hubs in one enclosure. To use the firewire ports you have to attach the D-Link to your computer via a firewire cable. To use the USB2 ports, you have to attach the D-Link to your computer via a USB cable. You can't have a single, unified host connection AND use all the ports on the D-Link. The USB ports on the D-Link aren't even active if you don't connect to your computer via USB.
I'm upset for two reasons: 1) the D-Link hub advertising isn't explicit about the need to have separate hub to host connections for each bus you want to use and 2) since my eMac only has USB 1.1 ports, the USB2 ports in the D-Link are 'stepped down' to USB 1.1 speeds (12 Mbps).
I'm also frustrated because I'd add a USB2 cardbus card to my eMac but it looks like the slot over the CD-ROM drive is only for Airport/Airport Extreme cards.
Does anyone have any info on that? Is the slot over the CD-ROM drive in a 1 GHz eMac a general purpose cardbus/PCMCIA type II slot or is it just for Airport cards?
Maybe I'll ask over on the discussions for the eMac.
Thanks again.
Bob
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I have an old iPod and want to synch some new music to it but the synch is set for all music. How do I change this?

Classic iPod with firewire. Just downloaded a new album that I want to put on it, but iTunes 11 want allow me to sych just some music. How do I switch this so I can upload just the one album?

In iTunes help under synching devices.
Sync your device manually
If you use manual syncing, you can sync items from more than one iTunes library to your iPod. (You can sync iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad with only one iTunes library.)
You can manually sync music, movies, TV shows, podcasts, and iTunes U lessons. You can’t manually sync photos and info (contacts, calendars, bookmarks, and so on).
Connect your iPod, iPhone, or iPad to your computer and select your device.
Click the Summary button and select “Manually manage music and videos” (below Options).
Click the On This Device button.
Click Add To on the right side of the iTunes window.
Drag items from the left side of the iTunes window to the pane on the right. To add other types of content, choose a category from the Library pop-up menu.
Click Done.
Sync your device manually
If you use manual syncing, you can sync items from more than one iTunes library to your iPod. (You can sync iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad with only one iTunes library.)
You can manually sync music, movies, TV shows, podcasts, and iTunes U lessons. You can’t manually sync photos and info (contacts, calendars, bookmarks, and so on).
Connect your iPod, iPhone, or iPad to your computer and select your device.
Click the Summary button and select “Manually manage music and videos” (below Options).
Click the On This Device button.
Click Add To on the right side of the iTunes window.
Drag items from the left side of the iTunes window to the pane on the right. To add other types of content, choose a category from the Library pop-up menu.
Click Done.

2011 iMac, Lion, iPod 3G, FireWire - charge yes, sync no

I'm posting this in both the iPod community and in the iMac community. My appologies to any who are bother by this...
I just bought a 2011 iMac (21.5 w/ 2.5GHz i5) and it came w/ Mac OS X Lion (currently at 10.7.2). I have a WD MyBook Studio connected to the single FireWire 800 port w/ an appropriate cable. The MyBook works just fine all the time. I have an old 3rd generation iPod (3G, 10GB) that I have been using for years via FireWire 400 on various PowerMacs, older iMacs, a couple of eMacs and even a Dell running XP Pro. I just picked up a FireWire 800 to 400 adapter that I plugged into the second FireWire 800 port on the back of the MyBook external HD. My iPod started charging as soon as I plugged in my genuine Apple iPod-FireWire cable that came w/ the iPod. To my dismay, the iPod makes no indication that it is connected to a computer and the computer makes no indication that it is connected to and iPod. I unmounted my MyBook drive and disconnected the cable from the back of the iMac. I then plugged the FW800-400 adapter directly into the back of the iMac and plugged in my iPod. No change. The iPod charges just fine but won't connect in any way. To be certain that my iPod and cable are OK, I fired up my old eMac (I'm glad I haven't put it on eBay yet) and the iPod works great. I can sync w/ iTunes and use disk access to move files on and off the iPod from the Finder. My eMac is running 10.4.11.
My next attempt was to check if the iPod is compatible w/ Lion and the latest iTunes (10.5.3) so I used a USB cable that came w/ my much newer iPod Classic 120GB. The old iPod 3G connected right away, synced and everything is fine. I tried turning off disk use as a post online mentioned this as a possible solution. I ejected the iPod and moved over to the FireWire cable. No change, charges fine but no connection. I tried the cable yet again w/ the eMac and everything is fine. I even tried my iPod Mini. That too works great via the FireWire cable on the eMac but only charges via FireWire on the iMac. The iPod Mini works fine via USB as well. I also tried both the iPod 3G and Mini w/ the FireWire cable on my Dell w/ an off-brand FireWire PCI card. Works perfectly. Both iPods are up to date according to iTunes. Even iTunes 10.5.2 on the Dell under Win XP Pro says it's all up to date. Yes, they are "Windows" iPods so I can connect them to any computer in a pinch.
If I can use USB for all of my iPods, then why am I worrying about FireWire? It's all about convenience. The battery in my iPod 3G doesn't last all that long. When connecting via USB, it communicates but doesn't charge (it needs the 12V of FireWire to charge even though it has USB capability). Bad things can happen if the iPod's battery dies during syncing. Connecting via FireWire not only takes care of the battery issue but it is also noticeably and measurably faster syncing files over FireWire than USB (I've done an apples to apples comparison of this in the past). I also paid $1200 for this iMac and another $10+ for the FW800-400 adapter. It should work. Apple has a number of articles that say FW800 is 100% backwards compatible w/ FW400. I can't find anything out there that tells me it shouldn't work and lots of things telling me it should work fine.
Can anyone shed light on why my iPod won't connect via FireWire to my new iMac.

It sounds like your talking about iPod (dock connector) from 2003, And a Mini from 2004?

Ipod with firewire cable

My son was given an older, 1st gen, I think, Ipod that seems to only work with firewire cable. Is there a way to charge this directly on a laptop with USB portsw only? Will a newer cable with USB work on the Ipod (so far using my cabling it doesn't seem to).
I wanted to try to buy a Firewire wall charger (the one he got seems not to be working very well), but I couldn't find any on the Apple website.

If it's a 1st or 2nd gen iPod, it does not have a dock connector; it has a FireWire port (like an external hard drive). So the FireWire cable used with it would have a FireWire connector at both ends.
Will a newer cable with USB work on the Ipod (so far using my cabling it doesn't seem to).
If you are able to try using your USB docking cable, the iPod is probably a 3rd gen. Does it have a touch wheel and four round touch button in a line between the wheel and display? It was the first iPod with the standard dock connector, but unfortunately, the 3rd gen iPod was designed to work with FireWire, so it will not charge over USB.
Apple does not sell the FireWire power adapter these days, but you can find them on eBay. Make sure it is the FireWire type.
If you want to use USB 2.0 to connect and sync the 3rd gen iPod, and you are able to get a FireWire power adapter, you can get this special cable that Apple still sells.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9688G/A
It has both a FireWire connector and a USB connector. You connect the USB connector to your laptop USB port. At the same time, you connect the FireWire connector to the FireWire power adapter to supply power for charging.

Can I charge my new ipod using firewire power adapter?

Just got my new 30GB ipod and realised that it doesn't come with power adapter to plug in directly in power outlet.
Can I use the firewire power adapter which I have leftover after my 3rd gen ipod died on me?
Also can I use the firewire to connect it to my powerbook for charging and song transfer? I thought firewire is faster than usb2 then why new ipods don't come with firewire cable anymore?
Many thanks.
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think if you do your research and read up you will see the USB2 is indeed faster than Firewire. I actually did a few test on a dual G5 using both the Firewire and USB2 and in all my test, USB2 was faster.
If USB2 was faster for you, that's wonderful. I'm not about to start arguing with you over it.
What I can tell you is that you're certainly in the minority if this was the case for you.
USB2 has a theoretical maximum speed of 480Mbps. While this is certainly a higher number than Firewire 400's 400Mbps, Firewire will still vastly outperform USB2 in almost every case. It is near impossible to get anywhere close to 480Mbps with USB2. Even under ideal conditions, USB2 still has to contend with other processes on the machine, and other devices in the bus.
This is the nature of USB's design.
It is not uncommon for Firewire to reach near maximum speeds consistently. This has been proven time and time again.
Like I mentioned already, if USB2 is faster for you... go ahead and use it. I'm not going to tell you otherwise.
I'm quite sure I've done sufficient research on this, as well as many other people in this industry, and these forums. Perhaps it is you that might want to do a little more reading.

I tried to restore my 120 gb iPod and got an error 1413 message - "cannot restore iPod". I started to reset turning the hold switch on and off and now my iPod seems to be permanently locked.

I tried to restore my 120 gb iPod and got an error 1413 message - "cannot restore iPod". I started to reset turning the hold switch on and off and now my iPod seems to be permanently locked. I had been having trouble syncing music, When I tried to sync, iTunes said it didn't recognize my iPod, even though I was on the iPod page in iTunes which showed the model number and the serial number of my iPod

I am having essentialy the same problem, but my iPod came from a PC and is now on a PC. The person who gave me the iPod didn't give me the wall adapter piece, so I bought a "Griffin" brand that was said to be compatible with this model. When I first plugged it into the wall, the Apple appeared with a bar underneath as though it was loading the new software. When the bar got to the end, the "plug into the wall" icon reappeared, but when I plug it in to the wall now, that icon is the only thing that shows, even after resetting and trying to run diagnostics.
When I doc the iPod on a charger I have or plug the USB into my computer and "reset" it, a battery with a charge icon appears, but there is no "motion" in the icon so it doesn't appear to be charging. The screen eventually goes back to the apple then to the "plug it into the wall" icon. HELP!!! Is is possible the wall adapters isn't the right one? Should I be charging through a firewire cable instead (which I also don't have...)?
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All songs have vanished from iPod and iTunes won't read it

Hi there. I’m experiencing a rather distressing problem with my 60GB iPod Photo.
I was listening to the iPod yesterday morning and nothing was out of the ordinary. Then I plugged it into my work computer (a desktop G4) and iTunes popped up with the “iTunes cannot read the contents of the iPod… please Restore…” message. However, the computer still recognizes the iPod as a drive (and my files are still present).
More problematic is that when I ejected the iPod, all my songs were missing, even though they are still in there somewhere because I only have 15GB of space available.
I have tried resetting the iPod and that hasn’t worked. Does anyone have any suggestions? I will only restore as a last resort because I don’t have all my music on my computer’s harddrive.
Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Hi yodini,
sorry to hear that. If, as you say, your ipod is still recognized as a drive, you could try to copy all your music (assuming it is still on your iPod) from your iPod using the following method. This is a major operation and it definitely helps if you are a little familiar with the terminal. You need to have Apple Development Tools installed for this, otherwise you have to work with hidden files. If you do not have Apple Development Tools installed and first want to see if your music still works and it is worth the effort, follow the steps 1-6.
1. Connect your iPod.
2. It should show up on the Desktop as "YouriPodsNameHere".
3. Go to the terminal (Applications->Utilities->Terminal)
4. Now we need to navigate to your iPod. In the terminal window type "cd" (without the quotation marks), add a space, (do not hit return yet) and drag your iPod from the Desktop and drop it into the Terminal. On your terminal prompt should now read "cd /Volumes/YouriPodsNameHere/". Hit the return key.
5. Then we need to navigate to the hidden music files. Type "cd iPod_Control" hit return and then type "cd Music" and hit return, always without quotation marks.
6. Let's check if your music works. Type "ls" and return. A list should appear, starting with something like F00, F01, F02 etc. Take the first entry in the list, let's say it is F00 and type in "open F00". A finder window appears with all the music in folder F00. The files will be called something like AAVP.m4a. Right click or control click the first one and go to "Open With" and choose "Quicktime Player". One random piece of your music should play now. If we got that far, we know (at least some of) your music is still intact.
7. Let's copy the music from your iPod to the computer. Create a new folder on the Desktop and call it "Music". Go back to the terminal, make sure a) that you have enough space on your computer hard disk (60 GB) and b) that you are still in the folder
"/Volumes/YouriPodsNameHere/iPod_Control/Music/".
If not, repeat steps 3 to 5.
Now type "cp -r * ~/Desktop/Music/". Hit return and wait until the prompt reappears. This can take quite a while (hours), your computer has to move gigabytes of data through a USB or FireWire connection! If your prompt reappears, you can enter "ls ~/Desktop/Music/" to see if you succeeded. This should list all the F00, F01 etc. folders.
8. We have now copied all the music to the Music folder on the Desktop, but it is still invisible in the finder! This is where you need the Development Tools. If you have the tools installed, type
"/Developer/Tools/SetFile -a v ~/Desktop/Music/*"
and hit return. Then restart the finder (For example  Menu-> Force Quit -> Finder -> Relaunch or log out and log in again). Now you can see all your Music in the finder.
Now you only have to copy your stuff back to your library without creating a lot of duplicates or without deleting ratings and play counts... This is another story, which creates a new set of challenges. Let me know if you got that far and we can discuss what to do next.
Please note that there are also commercially available programs that can get music off your iPod onto the computer (e.g. Yamipod, Senuti, iPodRip) that will be much more userfriendly. However, I am not sure if they will work if iTunes does not recognize your Music and it does not show up on your iPod.
Disclaimer: Everything described above is a bit tricky and working with the terminal has always the potential to ruin your data. So please be careful and decide if the music on your iPod is worth the effort. Let me know if you have questions and/or need specific help.
Hope that helps, Lars
12" PowerBook G4 - 1.25 GB RAM - Mac Pro - 2 GB RAM - Mac OS X (10.4.9) - 40 GB iPod 4G

Can I charge my 2013 ipod classic with my original ipod classic firewire charger?

Can I charge my 2013 ipod classic with my original ipod classic firewire charger?

Nope, I'm sorry. iOS/iTunes only (you need a connection to your network, and the iPod classic doesn't have network capabilities).

I have a older ipod and i need a charger for it the model

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So, if that is your iPod model, and you have a computer with a FireWire port, which even the current Macs do not have anymore, the cables are commonly available. However, the one to get depends on the type of FireWire port you have on the computer. The two likely types are 6-pin (older FireWire 400) and 9-pin (newer FireWire 800). Your iPod has the 6-pin (400) port.
Apple-centric vendor OWC has a selection of all types
http://eshop.macsales.com/catsearch/firewire+1394+cables
If your computer has 9-pin (800), you need a 6-pin (400) to 9-pin (800) cable. If it has 6-pin (400) that looks like the port on the iPod, then you need 6-pin to 6-pin.

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