IPod Classic: what causes hard drive damage?

I charged my iPod Classic (160GB) this morning, properly ejected the device, used it for a few minutes, then it just..... crashed. I've tried running tests and nothing happened. I've also tried reconnecting it to my laptop (Mac) but it indicated Error 1434/ said the device is not repairable/. Then went straight to restoring it via my iMac, but no luck (it detects the device, but it doesn't show up on iTunes -- so how can I restore?). I've done my research and ended up with this idea: my iPod is dead. Now I'm just wondering -- after almost a year and a half of taking care of my iPod (by taking care, I mean proper ejecting, not dropping it, etc), why the sudden hard drive damage?
Please enlighten me.

Hard drives do fail over time. Even solid state drives will fail one day.
However, I once had a problem with an iPod Classic that I belive was caused by using the iPod as an external hard drive and I ended up taking it to the Genius Bar at the Apple Store. All the Genius did was plug it in to his computer and used some 3rd party application to force the iPod to restore again. And that was after I tried several things. So I suggest you take it to a Apple Genius if you can.
If you can't go to an Apple Store, I can look for that 3rd party Application.

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Hi, Can anybody please tell me if its possible to download music from my classic to an external hard drive and would copyright issues be envolved perhaps stopping me downloading all the music. Most of the music is from my own CD's. Thanks.

While it is possible to put the music on an iPod onto an external drive, it isn't easy, and iTunes can't do it. You would need a third-party programme. Is the music not listed in your iTunes Library, and therfore, on your computer? Then all you would need to do is copy the files from their location on your computer to the external hard drive.
It should be on your computer, it's not wise to use the iPod as your only copy of your Library, since it's not designed to be a back up device.
As for copyright; this is actually a grey area, dependent upon which country you are in. In the UK for example, it is actually breaking copyright to put the CDs you own onto an iPod. But in reality, no one in the UK will be prosecuted since what they are doing is regarded as fair use. (I think these rules are about to change, in favour of the consumers.) I believe that in the USA, at least one lawyer has been trying to bring a prosecution based on "putting your CDs onto an iPod is copyright theft".
What is usually boils down to is this;
if you are making a copy for your own use, that's okay. But if you are making a copy for you to keep, while you then sell your original CDs to someone else, that's copyright theft.
Members of one household, i.e. brothers, sisters and children can share the music on CDs, without fear of copyright theft accusations. But if your brother moves out to his own home, then he no longer has a right to copies of your CDs.
Making a copy, by which you make profit, or deprive the copyright owner of income, is copyright theft. So lending your CD to a friend, who then makes a copy and returns the CD to you, is copyright theft, even if you made no money from this.

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Hi,I'm trying to put all the songs from my ipod classic onto an external hard drive,but it is only putting purchases from itunes onto hard drive and not any of my old cd's that I put onto the ipod manually.Am I doing something wrong?Thanks.

Since it has always been very basic to backup your computer and all it's data, Apple provides no way for you to transfer music from your iPhone back to your computer. As you know, you can re-download all iTunes purchases, but music that you ripped yourself you'll have to just re-rip again.
You can try and find 3rd party applications that might help you. I'm sure you'll pay, however.
Let this be a very important lesson learned.
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right click on the songs that do transfer and select create aac version then re sync
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This might sound like a silly question, but if anyone could help me out i'd be very grateful...
I have recently bought a 160GB ipod, with the intention of using it as a hard-drive - is it at all possible to erase all the tracks on my macbook (to which my ipod is synched to) and keep all of the tracks on the ipod, saving me having all of my music in 2 places?
This would create more hard-drive space on my mac, and i could just plug my ipod into my macbook instead.
Would this however cause problems when synching new music as the ipod would surely recognise that all the previous music on the mac had been deleted and would therefore delete it on the ipod too...?
hope that makes sense...?!
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I would personally keep the tracks on my laptop, the ipod HDD is less stable than the laptops.

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You're not supposed to let the iPod get hotter than 50c. Not good for the components. 2648 reallocs is not good, but none pending suggests that any bad clusters have been successfully mapped out. Try a DFU restore and the "break up large transfers" method from Corrupt iPod classic.
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My Ipod Classic shows a red circle with a cross in the middle. I've completed diagnostic tests which have popped up, however any HP/FW/Hard Drive tests freeze the ipod, as if the hard drive won't spin. What do I do?
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You are in luck, Refer to this recent post by tt2, on recovering media using 3rd Party Software.
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At this point, I am amazed to say I have it up and running and was even able to upgrade to 10.4.11, which caused one of the recent crashes. I have in fact prepared my data for "the unthinkable" (which has now happened four times in the last forty-eight hours), but this whole "working" thing is pretty creepy. (I tried to pop the top to see if the hard drive has any physical damage from the dent, but apparently the only thing harder to find in this town than a FireWire cable is a Torx T-6. I guess I'll be ordering OWC's lame eleven-piece $17 tool kit. Oh well.).
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Ipod as a portable hard drive

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does any one know if you can set an ipod to just be a portable storage device for say a powerbook. i have a retired a couple of ipods and would love to know how, if at all, to use an older 40 GB ipod as a portable hard drive with my powerbook? for me it would be ideal to keep my photo library on an ipod and then access it from my powerbook. what would be even more useful would be if i could use an ipod as one of my aperture vaults.
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Plug in to your powerbook. Launch iTunes if it doesn't automatically launch. On the Summary page, check the box next to "Enable disk use". You may want to also uncheck "Open iTunes when this iPod is connected". If you want to erase everything on the iPod, use the Restore button on the Summary page. Just remember, like any removable drive, you need to eject it from the finder.

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Your picture folder would have to be 10 times larger and then it would be close to 1 TB in size. I have an aphorism, 'one cannot have too much storage'. If the bank account can afford it, follow Ralph's advice and do go for the larger storage drive. Given enough time, you might just grow into it..
Now there is an issue that you should consider. Since these pictures will no longer be on your MBP, do you want to have them backed up? If so, you then are going to need an additional HDD to store the backups. All HDDs will eventually fail, you just do not know when.
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