Ipod Touch & Mini not recognized by iTunes 5.7

I've been having this problem for a while and haven't seen any real solutions besides the 5 Rs (and they don't fix it). Basically, my ipod touch (1st gen, I believe) and ipod mini (1st gen) are not recognized by iTunes 5.7. I've done the 5 Rs - well, 4 of them because I can't get to the last step in order to attempt to restore - and nothing. I've tried different cables, ports, you name it. Occasionally, one of them may pop up but it recognizes it as my iPhone and even shows all the information that is on my iPhone. I remember when iTunes was simpler and when you plugged one device in, it was recognized and you can freely sync, delete songs, add, etc. Now it seems like there's always something going on that doesn't work properly (as it used to). I am always reluctant to keep updating iTunes as a result, but I have done so in the hopes that this would be fixed. Both ipods are full to capacity and I wanted to be able to remove and add music and haven't been able to do so for at least a year now. Besides having to buy new devices (which I'm sure you're all for, Apple), how can I fix this?
Thanks,
Nes

- Look at the dock connector on the iPod. Look for abnormalities like bent or corroded contacts, cracked or broken plastic.
- Try another cable
- Try another USB port
- I would also try another computer to help determine if yo have an iPod or computer problem.

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