Ipod updater file size

is it true that when you download a newer version of an ipod updater it takes space in your ipod's memory? some people said that we really cannot use all the memory space in an ipod...why? if true, then what is the standard memory in an ipod that will never be used..? hope you guys have an answer...

Simply downloading iPod Update software doesn't use any memory of the iPod at all. What I think may answer your actual question, though, is that no, a 1 GB iPod shuffle will not hold 1 gigabyte of music files.
As stated in the tech specs, 1 gigabyte is the raw space; there's less available after the device is formatted so it can be used. Then, and this is where installing the updater comes in, there's software needed to operate the iPod. Since iTunes says the songs on my shuffle use 986.7 MB with 3.9 MB left for use (disk use is not enabled), you'd surmise that about 10 MB is used by the system. That's not the same thing as saying the memory will never be used, though.
This is a 1 GB shuffle with the most recent software installed. Results will vary, of course.
srb

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Ipod updater file is so big!!!

ipod updater file is so big!!!
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Need the iPod Updater file

With iTunes 7.0.4, it appears that the only way to get my iPod Shuffle 512GB updated is through iTunes.
I simply can't. My system does not support having, on USB ports, an external hard drive, my iPod (and iTunes) and Internet access at the same time: it freezes hard.
I need to get the iPod Updater file before starting iTunes to update my iPod (unless I can update without iTunes). It used to work like this before :-/
I tried the different solutions proposed on the Apple site like cleaning up the system to no avail. My situation is not specificaly documented.
Any help on this?
TIA

I worked around by bowworing an Ethernet PCMCIA card from the office. I then could access Internet and connect my iPod without freezing the laptop. I managed to upgrade the iPod! To bad there isn't a way to get the updater though.

Need iPod updater file

With iTunes 7.0.2, it appears that the only way to get my iPod Shuffle 512MB updated (to v.1.1.4) is through iTunes.
I simply can't. My system does not support having, on USB ports, an external hard drive, my iPod (and iTunes) and Internet access at the same time: it freezes hard.
Otherwise, it used to work fine as long as I don't mix the iPod with the Internet access.
I need to get the iPod Updater file before starting iTunes to update my iPod (unless I can update without iTunes). It used to work like this before :-/
I tried solutions proposed on the Apple site like cleaning up the system to no avail. My situation is not specifically documented.
Any help on this?
TIA

... okaaaaaaay ...
i can think of a workaround that might fit your circumstances. but it's a tad risky (in that it involves trying to "fix something that isn't broken").
since you've got a first gen shuffle and you're wanting to drop the 1.1.4 firmware on there, you might be able to do it by downloading and running the iPod Shuffle reset utility:
About the iPod shuffle Reset Utility
... using the utility to upgrade a shuffle isn't really what it's for. it's intended for cases in which normal restores aren't working. hence i'm a bit nervous about trying this in your case if your shuffle is otherwise perfectly functional.

The Finder Lies, Doesn't Update File Sizes or Modification Dates, Etc.

When I save a file to my HD's (internal or otherwise), there's no guarantee that when I open a Finder window to view that file (see its file size, etc.) that the file will:
• appear at all
• if it does appear, that the file size will be correct, and/or
• the modification date will not be correct
Sometimes, yes, files will appear with all the requisite, updated information immediately. Other times it will take minutes, or hours, or even days before the Finder updates the file info (if the file even shows up at all).
Also, simply opening a folder seems to change the modification date of that folder. That seems totally bizarre to me.
This behavior has been going on ever since I can remember, and now it's at the point where it's causing serious problems.
So... is there a fix for this? Or, is there a way to "refresh" a Finder window to force it to show current file information?
Oh, one more thing... I just re-installed my system from a zero'd hard drive so everything about it, particularly Finder prefs, are all brand spanking new. It's disheartening to see that within 48 hours of a fresh install that I'm seeing these kinds of problems.
Help? Advice?
-=iSchwartz=-

I suggest for starters you update to 10.4.8.
If the problem continues here are two solutions:
1) Quit Finder. You can enable the Finder "Quit" menu by pasting this command in Terminal:
defaults write com.apple.finder QuitMenuItem YES
This will allow you to quit Finder by either right-clicking the dock icon or from the "Finder" menu.
2) Run an Applescript:
Click here to launch Script Editor.
tell application "Finder" to update folder (folder of the front window as string)
This script will update the front open window. You can drag the script to the toolbar for quick access in all windows. For that, it might need to be saved "As Application", I don't remember.

Update file size mismatch error code U43M1D204

I had Creative Suite 6 Master Collection installed yesterday, about seven updates notification appeared, they were done successfully except for Photoshop Camera Raw and Media Encoder
I tried the workaround in this thread, i deleted AAM update folder, but no use
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3864845#3864845
i went to log file aamu.log and found the error messages:
2012-08-17T16:20:29: connecting to: = http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/mac/AdobeMediaEncoderCS6-6/6.0.1/Setup.dmg
2012-08-17T16:20:30: ThreadDownloadUpdates:: Need to download a .sig file for this dmg at: /Users/bahaelaila7/Library/Application Support/Adobe/AAMUpdater/1.0/Install/AdobeMediaEncoderCS6-6/6.0.1/Setup.sig
2012-08-17T16:20:30: ThreadDownloadUpdates:: downloading .sig file from : http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/mac/AdobeMediaEncoderCS6-6/6.0.1/Setup.sig
2012-08-17T16:20:31: ThreadDownloadUpdates: ERROR: File Size Mismatch, between what is given in manifest and what is that of bob.
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : WARNING - Download failed due to file size mismatch at server.
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2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning state     = 43
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning outError = 204
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning percent   = 0
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning unique error code string   = U43M1D204
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download reporting headlight data for error code. = 204
2012-08-17T16:20:31: Check for Updates was done successfully.
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Check for updates returning state for reffId = AdobeMediaEncoderCS6-6/6.0.1
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Check for updates returning state     = 21
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Check for updates returning outError = 0
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Check for updates returning percent   = 100
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Check for updates returning unique error code string   = U21M1C0
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : WARNING - Download failed due to file size mismatch at server.
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning state for reffId = AdobeMediaEncoderCS6-6/6.0.1
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning state     = 43
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning outError = 204
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning percent   = 0
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning unique error code string   = U43M1D204
2012-08-17T16:20:31: UCDownloadUpdates : (A) UCIsSelfUpdateAvailable API returned value = 0
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2012-08-17T16:23:34: connecting to: = http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/mac/PhotoshopCameraRaw7-7.0/7.1.71/Setup.dmg
2012-08-17T16:23:35: ThreadDownloadUpdates:: Need to download a .sig file for this dmg at: /Users/bahaelaila7/Library/Application Support/Adobe/AAMUpdater/1.0/Install/PhotoshopCameraRaw7-7.0/7.1.71/Setup.sig
2012-08-17T16:23:35: ThreadDownloadUpdates:: downloading .sig file from : http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/mac/PhotoshopCameraRaw7-7.0/7.1.71/Setup.sig
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2012-08-17T16:23:36: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning state     = 43
2012-08-17T16:23:36: UCGetprogress : Updates download returning outError = 204
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I don't think it is related to firewall/security, because other updates for flash, dreamweaver and others updated successfully.
I had the same issue with one of Dreamweaver CS5.5 updates, it wouldn't update no matter how many times i redownload (using Adobe Updater).
one aspect is that, it takes its time downloading updates, but fails upon applying them, so links (accessing web) is not an issue here.
Also, looking at the error message, it says file size mismatch, and it appeard just ONE second after trying to download sig files
it's possible that, either sig file size mismatches what's written in webfeed file (or whatever "manifest" file as referred to in log),
or
dmg file size as written in sig file does not match the one dowloaded. as sig (signature) files are small, around 5k each. (could have been downloaded in less than one second).
I don't know why I haven't seen anyone else complaining from the same problem, though seemingly sig files are the same for same dmgs.
Or, I could have been the first to complain, and what I did worked for them too, hopefully

Software Update File Size Different than Apple Downloads File Size

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I am running software update and it retrieves the update for "MacBook, MacBook Pro Software update 1.1" File size is listed as 768K. When I go to the Apple Downloads page for this update, the file size is 979K.
Download ID is 16618 and URl is http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macbookmacbookprosoft wareupdate11.html
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Is this discrepancy normal based on the way that Software Update calculates file size or should I be concerned? There is no hash to confirm integrity of the file.

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The latest iPod Updater File is the problem...

I called Apple today and the cust. support guy confirmed with me that they acknowledge there is an "issue" with the latest file (dated Oct '05). He says it's not a problem, just an issue. I say by the number of people on here complaining, it's a problem. Call Apple to complain, that's the only way to get things fixed.

i am an extremely experienced mac user. i have a home network with five macs. i own 4 differnt ipods including 2 shuffles. the shuffles are no longer recognized and in fact, no longer usable. when i try and play, all i get is alternating green and yellow lights. ipods show up as being connected in the system profiler under the usb ports. they do not show up in itunes or in the finder. all macs are well maintained with the latest updates. all music is ripped frrom purchased CDs. No piriate music or software is present on any machine on the network. the ipod shuffles are both dead now, unusable and are not recognized by any version of the ipod updater.
help help help! and don't just send me to the standard help pages. i have read all the articles and tried all of the proposed solutions. i have run the disk utility on all machines and have found no problems. all disk permissions are verified and repaired. THis is an APPLE problem that I hope you solve soon.
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Apple updater says OS 10.8.6 update file size is 272 but requiring 3.45 gigs

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It says capacity 60.42 GB, available 1.41 GB.
A 60 GB drive is tiny compared to today's typical drive. And you are getting dangerously close to losing data. When the OS and apps run out of space to create and manage temporary data, things start to go badly for your data.
I have already deleted a lot of applications to no avail.
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Who kills your iPod after the installation of iPod updater?

Hello all,
First, sorry for my poor English. I am not a professional nor a technician and I could be wrong, so please correct me. There are many problems reported mainly from the PC users that their iPod can't be recognized nor mounted after the installation of the latest iPod updater. Most of them claimed that the iPod updater kills their beloved iPods. Before we jump to a conclusion, we must understand what is iPod, and how does the iPod update work.
I believe that iPod equals a basic computer and need a OS in order to communicate with the PC. Installation the Updater will format the Hard disk of the iPod and then install the simple OS, so if we open the iPod updater file, it will show a window with two buttons i.e. Restore and Update, an Update is to copy the latest OS over the old version, but the Restore will format the hard disk before it install the OS over it. And importantly, during this process, the iPod needs sufficient of power to complete the upgrade, however, the problem comes just after the format, and the PC's USB (only 2 will work not 1.1) does not supply the stable power,even some cases that iPod does not get charge in the half way of installatin (a proper installation, you will see a running bar showing on the iPod screen just after the format), so you can imagine a hard disk got format but only got an uncompleted OS, of course, the iPod would not get recognized and mounted, and do not manage to communicate with the computer. At this stage the iPod will show a Sad iPod icon, a folder with exclamaiton points or a battery charging icon.
So, what would you do when it reach at this stage, a Reset would not work, and you would not able to do the Restore as the iPod is totally unrecognized by the computer.
Therefore, is there anyway to solve this problem, in my opinion and from my past experience, the answer is "yes", the simple way is to put your iPod in Disk Mode, when it plug to the computer, it will show as an external Hard Disk, you must fix it by doing a format (RESTORE would not work at this stage as it still can't recognized and mounted), in Mac we can use "Disk Utility" but the XP would not allow you to do the format in FAT32. After the formatting, replug the iPod with the computer, then it can be mounted and allow you to do the RESTORE.
In addition, I find an interesting point is, if your iPod formatted with a Mac, you will have better chance to be mounted with a PC, even your iPod does not complete the process of the installation of the iPod updater, and a PC formatted iPod will be likely to be fixed by a Mac as well.
How should we do before the update of the lastest software, for the XP user please do the following:-
1. Go to the system restore and create a check point in order to revert back to the previous version of the iPod updater, or do the back up using the 3rd party software such as Ghost or Go Back.
2. To have a test and make sure the PC's USB works properly. You can use the iPod or a PDA, and just make sure it got charged.
3. Have your iPod a full charge before the installation of the iPod updater
So, who is the main killer for the iPod?
For further infomation please read the following link - which wrote by a groups of great people - thank you guys
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@@.68ae8668

Hello Shanker Ghimire,
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Isit true to say that iPod Updater kills your iPod?

Hello all,
First, sorry for my poor English. I am not a professional nor a technician and I could be wrong, so please correct me. There are many problems reported mainly from the PC users that their iPod can't be recognized nor mounted after the installation of the latest iPod updater. Most of them claimed that the iPod updater kills their beloved iPods. Before we jump to a conclusion, we must understand what is iPod, and how does the iPod update work.
I believe that iPod equals a basic computer and need a OS in order to communicate with the PC. Installation the Updater will format the Hard disk of the iPod and then install the simple OS, so if we open the iPod updater file, it will show a window with two buttons i.e. Restore and Update, an Update is to copy the latest OS over the old version, but the Restore will format the hard disk before it install the OS over it. And importantly, during this process, the iPod needs sufficient of power to complete the upgrade, however, the problem comes just after the format, and the PC's USB (only 2 will work not 1.1) does not supply the stable power,even some cases that iPod does not get charge in the half way of installatin (a proper installation, you will see a running bar showing on the iPod screen just after the format), so you can imagine a hard disk got format but only got an uncompleted OS, of course, the iPod would not get recognized and mounted, and do not manage to communicate with the computer. At this stage the iPod will show a Sad iPod icon, a folder with exclamaiton points or a battery charging icon.
So, what would you do when it reach at this stage, a Reset would not work, and you would not able to do the Restore as the iPod is totally unrecognized by the computer.
Therefore, is there anyway to solve this problem, in my opinion and from my past experience, the answer is "yes", the simple way is to put your iPod in Disk Mode, when it plug to the computer, it will show as an external Hard Disk, you must fix it by doing a format (RESTORE would not work at this stage as it still can't recognized and mounted), in Mac we can use "Disk Utility" but the XP would not allow you to do the format in FAT32. After the formatting, replug the iPod with the computer, then it can be mounted and allow you to do the RESTORE.
In addition, I find an interesting point is, if your iPod formatted with a Mac, you will have better chance to be mounted with a PC, even your iPod does not complete the process of the installation of the iPod updater, and a PC formatted iPod will be likely to be fixed by a Mac as well.
How should we do before the update of the lastest software, for the XP user please do the following:-
1. Go to the system restore and create a check point in order to revert back to the previous version of the iPod updater, or do the back up using the 3rd party software such as Ghost or Go Back.
2. To have a test and make sure the PC's USB works properly. You can use the iPod or a PDA, and just make sure it got charged.
3. Have your iPod a full charge before the installation of the iPod updater
So, who is the main killer for the iPod?
For further infomation please read the following link - which wrote by a groups of great people - thank your guys
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@@.68ae8668

Yes, it will erase all your data with your iPod. Please do not format until you have the back up of your iPod. Very likely that your iPod was formatted by a Mac, which can't be read by your PC. Download a software called Xplay
http://www.mediafour.com/products/xplay/

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my question is about the file size of notes to be handled by the iPod nano.
I have copied several ASCII text-files into the Notes folder of my iPod nano. Each has a size of approx. 20 kByte. Windows Explorer shows them in the iPod Notes folder with their original size.
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There is an online utility for doing this - will save you tons of time AND adds links so you go from one section of the larger file to the next:
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Hello!
I'm trying to convert a file that has the following characteristics (as reported in Quicktime Pro):
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FPS: 25
Data Size: 572.20 MB
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Normal Size: 496 x 208
I know the dimensions are strange, but it's because this is just a test I'm running on a workflow using Hand Brake to bring content back from a DVD (my content).
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Data Size: 1.36GB
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Normal Size: 640 x 268
How is it that the data rate and file size have increased so much? It now plays on an iPod, but why? I was under the impression that usually the problem with getting video to play on an iPod was a data rate that is too high. So it seems strange to me that the second file works and the first doesn't.
Finally, what is the difference between a file with the extension .mov and the extension .m4v? The original file has .mov and the converted ends up with .m4v. But they have the same characteristics in terms of codec. So what's the difference?
Thanks for any help and info!
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I think I was able to resolve this myself after some trial and error. It looks like it is all in the name of the file. I've gotten some files to transfer after going into the Get Info section and updating the name (usually shorten the name or take out non-letter/number/# characters and then get the filename on disk to match.

ITunes v 1.1.1.5 makes m4b files = 0:00 and will not play. iPod update same

updated iTunes makes m4b (homemade audiobooks) show 0:00 time -- even though file size shows old size -- and files will not play. Immediate past version of iTunes showed at 0:00 but would play. updated iPod will not play pre update present m4b audiobooks.
Any ideas on how to correct? More discussion here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=905543&tstart=0
Hate to post in both places, but relevance is in both forums.
How does one revert to prior versions of iTunes, QuickTime, and iPod -- assuming the latter two also need to revert. Do they?
Have found the following:
uninstall: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93976
Old versions:
http://www.oldapps.com/quicktime_player.htm
http://www.oldapps.com/itunes.htm
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=itunes
http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=quicktime
any clues, hints, warnings, etc., before I go thru downgrades?
Windows XP

Problem identified: SoundTaxi files created prior to v 2.2.7 will not play in iTunes v1.1.1.5.
There is a workaround for old files and dicussion here:
http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?t=193739
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