IPod with Doc Connector - 15GB - Basics for Dummies

Here are some pointers, in case you don't know the obvious. I got my iPod used, and I did not receive a setup guide. I learned a few very basic things THE HARD WAY. I could not get it to even SHOW UP in
iTunes or
in the OS or desktop, on
Mac OS 10.4.11, or
Windows 2000Pro
I was trying to use it via the wall adaptor, and dock cable, with the USB connector that, as far as I knew, was the ONLY FREE CONNECTOR I has available to me.
Here is BASIC DUMMY FACT # 1 -
The Dock Connector cable is a TRI-connector. It has the Dock connector, a USB 6-pin male, and a FireWire 6-pin male connector. Yes, that's right, it has a FIREWIRE. I did not know this, because the FireWire connector is PLUGGED INTO the wall plug part of it. I didn't even know that you could take the wall plug off the cable and just plug the iPod directly into the FireWire port on the Mac. So after hours of frustration and futility trying to load songs onto my old 3rd gen iPod with Dock Connector using USB (Blehhhhh!), I discovered the FireWire 6-pin plug, plugged it into the Mac, and iTunes launched immediately and I was prompted "Do you want to erase and sync?" to which I gleefully clicked "YES". The iPod was previously loaded with about 900 songs from a Windows PC, and every attempt trying to connect via USB was hopeless. FireWire works flawlessly.
Dummy fact # 2 -
When your iPod says "Do Not Disconnect" you have to click the Eject button to "Safely Remove" (like in Windows) and "eject it" from iTunes. Well, what I mean is, I don't know if you HAVE to do this, but I feel better about myself when I do. After FINALLY getting all the songs I wanted on there, NO WAY was I going to take a chance and "pull the plug" on the little thing, with that warning telling me not to, before I investigated a bit.
Now, this is a REAL dummy fact, and I can hear the snickering even though I haven't submitted this yet. But never having using iPod with iTunes, it took me a few seconds to see that there is a little eject icon on the bottom right of iTunes 7.7.1. It was cool to see "OK to Disconnect!" once I found that "Eject" feature.
You know, I had my CD's all in a box and ready to mail the thing back to the guy (a friend) who sold it to me and see if he could find a way to load it up. And the wall plug fell off the cable purely by chance as I was packing it up and boxing it to ship, and when I went to reconnect the dock cable to the plug, I realized it was a FireWire connector. Beauty mate !

True... The 3G iPod is designed to work with FireWire. Once it is charged up and set up for Mac, it may work over USB for data syncing, but it will not charge over USB (so you cannot use the Restore button in iTunes). You can use it with USB and charge at the same time (and also do the Restore procedure), if you get one of these two-ended docking cables.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9688G/A
The USB end connects to the computer. The FireWire end connects to the power adapter (and supplies the power). But if you have FireWire on the computer, use FireWire.
There is also an eject button next to the iPod name under DEVICES. Also, if you UNcheck the +Enable disk use+ option for the iPod (in the iPod's iTunes pane), the +Do not disconnect+ message should go away as soon as the iPod is done syncing. The iPod will not appear on the Finder Desktop, and you can safety disconnect it without manually ejecting the iPod first.

Similar Messages

  • IPod (with Dock Connector) 15GB firewire mounting issues with iTunes 7.0.2

    Before I sent my iPod in for battery replacement I backed up my music and restored it under iTunes 7.0.2. I then disconnected it, put it in the box and sent it off. When I got it back, I charged it fully with the firewire cable and the wall charger then tried to mount it to refill it with music. It would not mount with the firewire cable. It is charging but will not show up in the finder or iTunes. I noticed that it would not turn off by pressing and holding the play/pause button. I figured it would eventually sleep so I put it into my laptop bag to bring with me to work.
    I got to work and borrowed my buddies' USB cable and the iPod is completely dead. Dead like not even a boot screen. Apparently it can no longer sleep and completely discharged during the night. Additionally, the USB cable doesn't seem to be powering or charging it. I plugged it into my workstation using the firewire cable and although it will charge it still will not mount.
    After about a half an hour of charging I disconnected the firewire cable and plugged in the USB cable. The iPod mounted into iTunes. I figured I would restore the iPod again to fix the firewire issue so I clicked Restore. I then got a message saying "You must connect using FireWire to restore the iPod." I cannot connect using Firewire.
    To recap, I cannot charge over USB, I cannot update over USB and I cannot mount over Firewire.
    I reconnected using USB, Quit iTunes without dismounting the iPod then tried to erase the iPod with Disk Utility, which failed. Next the iPod wouldn't even mount under USB so I went into iPod diagnostic mode and found a new line item labeled USB DISK which forced the iPod to become visible to Disk Utility again. I repaired the iPod disk and it will once again mount under USB but will not charge and will not restore.
    I have scoured the apple.com site to try and find a way to downgrade my iPod to what it was before 7.0.2 but cannot find anything.
    iTunes 7.0.2 has rendered my iPod totally useless. It was bad enough having a battery that was toasted and was glad to finally get that taken care of but now that I have a battery that works I have software that cannot mount via firewire and will not turn my iPod off and drains the battery. Plus with no way to go back to a previous version Apple has rendered my iPod useless.
    Help!... please.

    Hi Kenekeu
    I just wanted to chime in and bump this thread. Although I've posted here several times about this exact problem, with no solution found yet, and no response from Apple. I tried rebooting into windows (via bootcamp) and reformatting my ipod from there. However when I downloaded the older version of the ipod updater, i was told that it was expired and a newer version was available (sigh). So I now have a windows formatted ipod that still won't connect via firewire.
    I am still able to mount and transfer songs via USB in mac OSX. Luckily I had one of those dual usb/firewire cables, which plugs into the plug charger via firewire, and into the computer via USB at the same time, so my ipod doesn't lose charge.
    Hopefully there'll be a fix soon, because this is really frustrating. I've had this ipod for a couple years, and was always proud that it lasted this long... and now this.

  • Can I connect iPod (with dock connector) with just a USB connector?

    My mother-in-law gave my daughter her old iPod (with dock connector). It was supposed to come with an adapter that converts the 6-pin firewire cable to a USB cable (you are supposed to plug the 6-pin into the dock connector to charge it, then use the adapter to connect to your computer). We never got The adapter, so I just used USB connector from my own iPod nano to connect the old iPod into the computer. All kinds of error messages. I've now restored the iPod and it seems to be working, but I'm afraid to plug it back in using just the USB cable. Is it possible to connect the USB cable directly from the iPod to the computer without the adapter? Or could the problem be that I have also use my iPod nano on this computer? Thanks for any help you can provide.

    A 15GB iPod would have to be a 3rd gen iPod.  It has a touch (not click) wheel with four touch buttons in a row that glow orange during use, correct?  That model needs to be connected using FireWire, because it cannot charge over USB. 
    If your new Mac has a Thunderbolt port, you can get an adapter for FireWire
    http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r
    plus an adapter for FireWire 800 to FireWire 400
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/FIR1369AD/
    Another way, if you have the square white FireWire power adapter that came with your iPod, is to get a special docking cable that Apple used to sell a long time ago.  It has both USB and FireWire connectors.  Here's a listing for a third-party version on eBay
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Vanco-iPod-Dock-Connector-to-1-USB-1-FireWire-Cable-/2 71074766489?pt=US_MP3_Player_Chargers_Cradles&hash=item3f1d50ae99
    (Search on "FireWire USB iPod docking cable" to see other listings.)
    What you do with this thing is plug the USB connector to your Mac's USB port, the FireWire connector to the FireWire power adapter, and the dock connector to the iPod.  iPod can then sync over USB while getting power over FireWire.
    I would go with that special cable, to avoid using a series of adapters (which adds complexity and unreliability) and tying up the valuable Thunderbolt port for just your iPod.

  • Seeking old iPod (with dock connector) advice

    good morning people who are smarter than me. I have an older version which they are calling "iPod (with dock connector)" from 2005. its got a ton of music that i either uploaded or purchased and i would like to get it onto my laptop so i can put the music in my rad new iphone. however, the battery is such that the ipod wont work unless it is connected to a charge. unfortunately for me, it will not charge when hooked up to the computer (Dell - Vista (...i know).
    any advice? do they still sell batteries for older ipods? is there some setting that i can change in itunes to make it charge my ancient ipod when hooked up to the computer?
    thanks.

    I have a older 40 Gig Gen 2 classic (I guess they called them that) I bought it in 2004, and am on my 3rd battery. I had the same problem you described. I just got another one from laptopsforless.com and it cost me 5 bucks. .01 cent for the battery and 4.99 shipping, I got it in about a week. (I figured It was worth 5 bucks to take a chance on it) It works fine, but still do not get more than a few hours out it fully charged.

  • Will one day "ipod with dock connector" be able to be charged by USB cable?

    Hi,
    this question has just popped into my mind
    a moment ago. it might be very useful if
    one day they'll grant us to be able to do that.
    but if this request seemed to be too far
    from hardware capability, i'd stop thinking
    about it.
    could anyone give me a clue? any support teams?
    Thanks,
    p/s hope i'd called my ipod right, it's the
    one with four buttons outside the wheel, and
    it is not a clickwheel one. "ipod with dock
    connector" right? :] thank you again

    Hi Kenekeu
    I just wanted to chime in and bump this thread. Although I've posted here several times about this exact problem, with no solution found yet, and no response from Apple. I tried rebooting into windows (via bootcamp) and reformatting my ipod from there. However when I downloaded the older version of the ipod updater, i was told that it was expired and a newer version was available (sigh). So I now have a windows formatted ipod that still won't connect via firewire.
    I am still able to mount and transfer songs via USB in mac OSX. Luckily I had one of those dual usb/firewire cables, which plugs into the plug charger via firewire, and into the computer via USB at the same time, so my ipod doesn't lose charge.
    Hopefully there'll be a fix soon, because this is really frustrating. I've had this ipod for a couple years, and was always proud that it lasted this long... and now this.

  • My battery is dead on my 3rd gen iPod with dock connector.....Is there a way to kick start it...before this it was fine in all depts??

    Hi everyone...my battery is dead on my 3rd gen iPod with dock connector.....Is there a way to kick start it...before this it was fine in all depts??
    i have done all the usual 5r's but it is totally dead.... I need to jump start the batteruy some how... can this be done??
    Cheers
    Stuart

    Planb77..... Thank you for confirming that..... I guess the battery is shot.  I do have a later version of ipod and am very happy with it, however I was trying to ressurect this one for use on my motorcycle.
    How do I replace the battery.... is it easy to get the ipod apart w/o destroying it.... I would love to delve inside any way and replace the battery.
    Can you or anyone help here and point me in the right direction to replace?
    Thanks for the help planb77
    Stuart

  • Ipod with doc suddenly is unable to be seen by Itunes or Mac

    I have a 15G Ipod that was working fine up until a couple of weeks ago. I suspect that it was just about the time that my OSX upgraded to Itunes 7.02, but I can't say for sure.
    Now the ipod will not mount on the mac/ I have tried on my powerbook 500 mhz, and also my mac mini, which is over 1gz. Same problem...the ipod does not mount on the desktop and is not recognized in itunes, system profiler, etc.
    I have done the 5 R's with no success. I have tried the resetting of the firewire port by powering down the mac, and removing the power cord as well, and then restarting the mac. Still no ipod mounts.
    I have a 10g ipod that mounts via the same firewire port with no problems.
    Ipod connects via plug in and doc, and appears to be charging. IF you hold it to your ear the disc drive appears to be powering up, but you get the apple in the view screen with nothing else, and no other buttons work to bring up playlists, menu, etc.
    What can I do to bring the dead back to life...Thanks, Jim
    POWERBOOK 500 mhz Titanium and Mac Mini 1.2 ghz   Mac OS X (10.3.6)   Ipod 15 g dock version

    I'm replying to my own question! I remembered that I had the USB connector for my Ipod which I had never used; plugged it in as a last resort, and voila, the Ipod showed up in Itunes and I was able to update my Ipod with some new songs & audiobooks. I can only assume my firewire connector has died. There are some reasonably-priced firewire-dock connectors available online, some with retractable cords.
    Hope this works for others.

  • IPod with dock connector is not getting charged with car charger and iTrip

    My iPod from 2003 with dock connector is not getting charged in my car by using the griffin iTrip with USB car charger. iTrip works, but not the charger. Maybe there´s not enough power output from the car charger? Only 5.0V with 400mA are coming out. iPod needs more? 12V with 1.0A?
    Does somebody have information about that problem for me?

    Has Apple dropped support for older model iPods?
    Nope. Support is still there, even back to the original 1G iPod with the wheel that actually turns. I have a 3G iPod, and it syncs just fine. There have not been any software updates for years, but the old software still works fine with the latest iTunes.
    You have to use FireWire, which you seem to be doing.
    Try putting it into Disk Mode first, then connect it.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1363
    Does the iPod currently play music as it should?
    Do you have another docking cable (FireWire) that you can try? FireWire connectors often get worn and they no longer work, although the power connection can continue to work.
    Did you try the other FireWire port in the iMac?

  • Frozen screens - iPod with dock connector

    My ipod freezes up whenever it is disconnected from the computer. The Ok to disconnect doesn't go away. If I perform a reset, the apple logo doesn't disappear. I have restored my ipod many times to no avail. I can synch songs to it, and even play them off the ipod when its attatched to the computer if i use (gasp!) realplayer. I can put it in disk mode and hook it up to the computer, itunes seems to think the ipod is ok. I'm not gonna spend 250 bucks to fix this thing, can anyone help? It seems like it still works, it just hangs up on something.

    I am having the same issue and was hoping that I might find a cure or the reason behind this prob. I have an ipod w/ dock connector, it works fine when in use with my inmotion speaker system (with ac, not sure if anything happens on battery), when I bring it to the car and use the ipod hooked up to car stereo using a aux jack on stereo, the ipod will play for 1,2,xx # of songs and then shut down. I do have a power source for the ipod in the car, using the 12v/cig lighter outlet which will powerup the 'pod, but creates a whine that is annoying. At first I thougt it might be the drastic change from use in a warm to cold enviornment?
    Anyone with any ideas as to what is causing this??

  • Mini with doc connector

    when i use my mini with my universal dock the volume automaticaly sets itself to a nonvariable volume. you can change the volume slider on the screen but it does not affect the output. i am having trouble because my stereo is all the way up and its not loud at all. i know the thing works because i can use my 5g video fine. every now and then it does the same thing, but i can just take it out and put it back in and it works.
    how can i change this?

    True... The 3G iPod is designed to work with FireWire. Once it is charged up and set up for Mac, it may work over USB for data syncing, but it will not charge over USB (so you cannot use the Restore button in iTunes). You can use it with USB and charge at the same time (and also do the Restore procedure), if you get one of these two-ended docking cables.
    http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9688G/A
    The USB end connects to the computer. The FireWire end connects to the power adapter (and supplies the power). But if you have FireWire on the computer, use FireWire.
    There is also an eject button next to the iPod name under DEVICES. Also, if you UNcheck the +Enable disk use+ option for the iPod (in the iPod's iTunes pane), the +Do not disconnect+ message should go away as soon as the iPod is done syncing. The iPod will not appear on the Finder Desktop, and you can safety disconnect it without manually ejecting the iPod first.

  • Sync iPod with iTunes - reduce network bandwidth for iTunes music folder

    I'm using a network drive for my iTunes music folder. Average bandwidth is 50Mbps, compared to, say, an external USB HDD with hi-speed USB bandwidth of 750Mbps.
    For some reason iTunes needs to consult the files in the iTunes music folder when syncing an iPod. That is, it needs to access the music files even when there is no change and no files actually need copying from the music folder to the iPod.
    Because iTunes is reading my music files, it's really slowing down a sync.
    How do I get iTunes only to look at my music folder when there's a file to copy. Reading each file just for a sync is consuming resources and I can't see that it's necessary - iTunes knows what is in my music folder as it has the library xml file stored locally on the PC hosting iTunes.
    Anyone have any advice here ?
    Thanks.
    PS have posted this Q twice before with no replies. Hopefully yet another paraphrase to make the question more relevant with get some help from a kind soul out there.
    Here's a link to my previous post(s): http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=802961

    On my Mac, if the external drive with iTunes library is not connected, it will error out and ask if I want to keep looking for the files.
    I'm using a network drive for my iTunes music folder. Average bandwidth is 50Mbps
    Why so slow? Is it wireless? What kind of connection is it?
    iTunes also wants to know if there is a file to delete or if there is a file that has changed.
    an external USB HDD with hi-speed USB bandwidth of 750Mbps
    USB 2.0 theoretical max speed is 480Mbit/s. Realistic max speed is ~60% of that.
    iTunes knows what is in my music folder as it has the library xml file stored locally on the PC hosting iTunes.
    iTunes does not use the library.xml file. It is simply created for other applications to access iTUnes library.

  • I can't sync my iPod with iTunes, iTunes says waiting for changes to be applied.

    Hi, I've been experiencing problems with my iPod touch 5g, the problem is that when I updated it to iOS 7 some of my songs were deleted, so I went to iTunes and unsync it, but now I can't add the music again, iTunes says waiting for changes to be applied.
    I've tried everything restarting the iPod, restating my mac, restore the iPod to the factory settings, everything and none of them worked
    Please help me.

    Try:
    "Waiting for changes to be applied": Apple Support Communities

  • HT4972 i would like to replace my old ipod with this new 4th gen, for my entire library, how to?

    i just bought a  4th generation ipod touch, to replace my 1st generation ipod touch and would like to register it so i can have access
    to my entire library , can anybody tell me how to do this?

    Make one final sync of the old iPod to your computer. The first step of the sync is a backup.
    Then connect the iPod to the computer and restore it from the backup for the old iPod. You will have to reenter keychain items like passwords since they are only restored to the same device.
    To restore see:
    iTunes: Backing up, updating, and restoring iOS software
    The restore topic of:
    iOS: How to back up

  • 3rd Gen iPod won't charge with USB connector - Is that normal?

    I have the above iPod, and I noticed that when I tried to plug it in to charge it with a newer USB connector it will not charge. It will however, let me update my iTunes music. Is this normal for an older iPod?

    I believe that is correct. That iPod was often called the iPod with 'dock connector', and as this chart shows, won't charge via USB.
    System Requirements.

  • IPod with Large headphones

    My question is basically will something happen to the iPod (like circuitry overload) if I use huge on ear headphones. I checked an the impedance is the same on both, the power output of the the large headphones is magnitudes higher though compared to the small buds that come with the iPod. Did anyone use (long time) their iPod with large headphones?

    thanks for the answers. The thing is, that the volume in the large headphones is just fine (because impedance is 32 ohms, which is the same as the small white buds), so in this sense I don't need an amp to make it louder. What I am concerned about is will it have some bad impact on the internal components.
    I think the headphones you need an amp for have higher impendance, thus your ipod cannot make them sound loud enough.
    I am just thinking here:
    If you have an amp for say 400W and you connect a 600W speaker to it, this has no bad effect on the amp itself: it just cannot reach the 600W. This should be true for the iPod as well. The headphones would just never reach their max volume (which is fine, because even at 60% of volume, they are already extremely loud).

Maybe you are looking for