Is 1:n possible without BPM
I've 10 different items.Now i want to send these items to 10 different vendors.Is it possible without BPM?
Of course
Ref: /people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
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Hi guys
We have a scenario where we need to send an IDoc to webservice and get the response back into another IDoc.
Questions:
1. Is this scenario possible without a BPM? or do we need to use BPM (Sync-Async bridge).
2. Is there a Async to Sync bridge in BPM?
3. How do I use this bridge in my scenario and customize it?
Appreciate your quick response
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SatyaHi Satya,
>>1. Is this scenario possible without a BPM? or do we need to use BPM (Sync-Async bridge?
You need BPM
2. Is there a Async to Sync bridge in BPM?
You dont need a "bridge", just take a synchronous send step
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-EshaHi,
This can be achieved with Interface Determination conditions. Go for 2 mapping. And in Interface Determination put condition to check which mapping to use. No need of ccBPM.
If you still want to go for 1:N multimapping please refer link:
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
without BPM.
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Edited by: Vineetha on Apr 27, 2010 11:44 AM -
Multiple files to idoc without bpm
Hi
I have gone through the previous threads and came to know that n:1 is not possible without bpm. But in case of idocs you can collect them in r/3 system itself using RSEOUT00 program. But if my scenario is like.......you have 10 files which are coming through ftp and we have to send the idoc to the target system. Is there any way to do this scenario without bpm ??
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kumarHi palnati !
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
Multiple IDocs without BPM(occurance change)
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
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/people/pooja.pandey/blog/2005/07/27/idocs-multiple-types-collection-in-bpm
Have a look at this blog.. Might be helps to you..
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/2748. [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
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As suggested by others, it is possible without BPM.
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Chris027 wrote:
> This looks promising, i'll try it.
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we are sending asynchronous Xi messages from ERP to PI and then sending a file through FTP for each message.
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Idoc to soap sync without bpm. is it possible? Helping me..
Hi Experts,
i have a small clarification Idoc to soap sync interface in sap pi 7.0. i created IDoc to Soap sync using BPM but some times the signals are stuck due to load issue in swpr, while reprocess those signals all going successfully to the receiver. So We are trying to eliminate BPM.
I just wanted to know Idoc to Soap sync scenario without BPM is possible or not in SAP PI 7.0?
if it is possible kindly send me the links
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Could you please let us know the exact requirement. How do you want to send the response back to IDOC?
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Jyothi A -
Is it possible to do N:1 maaping without BPM!!!!
Hi,
I have gone through one of michal weblog /people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change, which describes 1:N mapping without BPM. Is it possible to do N:1 mapping without BPM??!!!
Cheers.,
stallinHi,
I think not.
I had done a scenarion where a large file is coming n i broke that file into two and used two mapping at the source and one at destination.....there is one tag in message mapping extented...there i go n just add two source...
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Hemant -
Solution without BPM possible..?
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I am working on a File-RFC-File (without BPM) scenario in PI 7.1.
My scenario is having few problems like, its not able to delete the file from the source directory path (for which we have delete permissions) and it is an NFS system and it shows an error in the Sender file CC.
"Error: com.sap.aii.af.service.cpa.impl.exception.CPAObjectKeyException: Value of key must not be null: ObjectId"
But it gets processed successfully and provides a written paramter which I could see in MONI, but again doesn't write the file in the target directory. Could you please provide your inputs and let me know if I need to do any additional settings w.r.to PI7.1.
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NithiyanandamHello,
Check out in module configuration tab for any "type error" or spell mistakes.
Check out this thread which might be useful for you :[ File - RFC - File without a BPM - Possible from SP 19.|File - RFC - File without a BPM - Possible from SP 19.]
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Ramesh -
Duplicate Message ID issue in case of Multi mapping (without BPM)
Hi Experts,
I am doing one sample Example for my requirement of converting the single source message data into the multiple Target messages.
for example, when sender system is sending the 5 sale order details into a single message in PI then my Inbound proxy class of ECC R/3 receiver system must get this sale orders separately, that means inbound proxy class method must be triggered separately for 5 sale orders from sender system. for achieving this, I have used the Multi mapping concept in ESR (without BPM).
This scenario is in Asynchronous mode.
The below screen shots give the details on what I have configures so far.
IN ESR
IN ID
IN SXMB_MONI of PI
IN SXMB_MONI of ECC R/3 Receiver system (Error in Processing)
due to this error, inbound Proxy class method is not being triggered for the single Sale order details as well,
please let me know how to tackle this duplicate message ID issue when we have multiple payloads to process in a single message.
please also let me know if is there any other workaround to fulfil this requirement.
Thank you,
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JageshHi Nunu,
Check the below blog for restrictions.
Multi-Mapping without BPM - Yes, it’s possible!
Restrictions
Messages that result from the split in a mapping-based message split are sent using one AE. So only adapters running on the AE are supported. In particular, this means that target IDOC message splits are not supported since the IDOC adapter is not part of the AE.
Regards,
Praveen. -
Hi ,
I am following this weblog
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
but stuck up with what are the fields contained by ID in target message2 ...
Please check this for your clarification
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11212307@N08/1135395357/
Thanks
dushanthID will have only ID under it. instead of creating flat structure like the one above Jin has changed the strucutre below . you will have only ID field in it or you want u can add other fields in it .
Regards
Sreeram.G.Reddy -
Error handling in File - XI - SOAP scenario without BPM
Hello!
We have a File -> XI -> SOAP scenario without BPM. The problem is that if the Web Service sends back an error XI tries to reprocess the same message again and again instead of taking the next one.
We do not want set the retry interval to NULL because most error cases are temporary connection problems and then also those messages would not automatically be reprocessed any more.
We also have to use BE instead of EO, otherwise the Web Service will not return a response. But we need the response to be sure that the processing was successful. The message volume in this scenario is quite high and we do not want to use BPM only for the error handling.
I know that from SP19 some additional adapter modules are available for async - sync scenarios without BPM. I tried to configure it like described in File - RFC - File without a BPM - Possible from SP 19. but it did not solve the problem. Does anybody have any other ideas? Thanks.
Regards, TanjaHi Tanja,
>>>The volume is 3000 messages/day on business days and 700 messages/day during weekends but the traffic will increase in the future
I think, you should check that out. It is assumedly only 2 days work to build a scenario:
IDoc -> BP
BP <-> SOAP/HTTP
BP -> IDoc (Acknowledgement)
In the process you need a condition branch, where you decide success or not. You need 2 Interface Mappings for filling the ALEAUD.
Just send 1000 IDocs to the Test-XI and look to performance monitoring at Runtime Workbench, to find out, how many message will be processed in one hour. Assumedly 3000 and more per day should be possible. The advantage would be to reduce number of systems (no file system) and messages (better monitoring) and using the standard (better maintenance).
>>>So you are suggesting I should use HTTP adapter and then add the SOAP header manually in a mapping?
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E1ADHDR/MESTYP: original message type
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I ve done such a scenario several times. That works without any problems.
Regards,
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