Is all 720 x 480 video 4:3?

Is 720 x 480 video always 4:3? What about video shot with a camera that has a widescreen adapter that is shot at 720 x 480? Is it still considered 4:3?
Thanks.

Hello stanwelks,
the short answer is: No. NTSC SD video is always 720 x 480 ... the difference between 4:3 and 16:9 video is the pixel aspect ratio: (almost) square vs. rectangular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixelaspectratio
I don't have any practical experience with widescreen adapters, but my guess is that what you will get is letterboxed 4:3 footage, even though with better quality than when simply using the camcorders built in 16:9 conversion.
hope this helps
mish

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Firstly, I am running an updated install of Arch with KDE. My graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 4800
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xorg.conf
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Xorg Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
# Serial Mouse not detected
# USB Mouse not detected
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
# FontPath "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
# FontPath "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/CID"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "ddc" # ddc probing of monitor
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "record"
# Load "synaptics"
Load "drm"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbVariant" ""
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Serial Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USB Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Buttons" "5"
EndSection
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "DPMS" "true"
# HorizSync 28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
HorizSync 28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
# VertRefresh 50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
# Default modes distilled from
# "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
# Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
# $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
# 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "640x350" 31.5 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync
# 640x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync
# 720x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "720x400" 35.5 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync
# 640x480 @ 60Hz (Industry standard) hsync: 31.5kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.5kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 43.3kHz
ModeLine "640x480" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
# 800x600 @ 56Hz (VESA) hsync: 35.2kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.1kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 46.9kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 53.7kHz
ModeLine "800x600" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768i @ 43Hz (industry standard) hsync: 35.5kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync +vsync Interlace
# 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 56.5kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 68.7kHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
# 1152x864 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 67.5kHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x960 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x960 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 85.9kHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 64.0kHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 80.0kHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 91.1kHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 75.0kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 65Hz (VESA) hsync: 81.3kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 87.5kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 93.8kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
# 1792x1344 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 83.6kHz
ModeLine "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
# 1792x1344 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
ModeLine "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
# 1856x1392 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 86.3kHz
ModeLine "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
# 1856x1392 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
ModeLine "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560 1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
# 1920x1440 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 90.0kHz
ModeLine "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
# 1920x1440 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
ModeLine "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
# Additional modelines
ModeLine "1800x1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
ModeLine "1800x1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
# Extended modelines with GTF timings
# 640x480 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 50.90 kHz; pclk: 43.16 MHz
ModeLine "640x480" 43.16 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 35.82 kHz; pclk: 34.96 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 43.27 kHz; pclk: 42.93 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 42.93 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 601 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 45.15 kHz; pclk: 45.51 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 45.51 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 51.42 kHz; pclk: 51.84 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 51.84 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 605 -HSync +Vsync
# 768x576 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 61.10 kHz; pclk: 62.57 MHz
ModeLine "768x576" 62.57 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -HSync +Vsync
# 800x600 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 68.18 MHz
ModeLine "800x600" 68.18 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -HSync +Vsync
# 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz
ModeLine "1024x768" 113.31 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 53.70 kHz; pclk: 81.62 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 81.62 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 77.10 kHz; pclk: 119.65 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 119.65 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -HSync +Vsync
# 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
ModeLine "1152x864" 143.47 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 72.07 kHz; pclk: 124.54 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 124.54 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 75.15 kHz; pclk: 129.86 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x960 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 101.70 kHz; pclk: 178.99 MHz
ModeLine "1280x960" 178.99 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -HSync +Vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 108.50 kHz; pclk: 190.96 MHz
ModeLine "1280x1024" 190.96 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 122.61 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 78.77 kHz; pclk: 149.34 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 149.34 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 155.85 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 179.26 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 179.26 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -HSync +Vsync
# 1400x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 214.39 MHz
ModeLine "1400x1050" 214.39 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -HSync +Vsync
# 1600x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 280.64 MHz
ModeLine "1600x1200" 280.64 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -HSync +Vsync
EndSection
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
#Driver "vesa"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Option "RenderAccel" "on"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
Xorg.0.log (not complete)
Dac detection success
(II) RADEON(0): Output: DVI-1, Detected Monitor Type: 0
Unhandled monitor type 0
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "SAM", prod id 292
(II) RADEON(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync
(II) RADEON(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh
(II) RADEON(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Output: DVI-0, Detected Monitor Type: 1
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: DVI-0 ----------------------
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: SAM Model: 124 Serial#: 1296707895
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2004 Week: 51
(II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) RADEON(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V
(II) RADEON(0): Sync: Separate Composite
(II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 34 vert.: 27
(II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20
(II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display
(II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
(II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.650 redY: 0.330 greenX: 0.330 greenY: 0.600
(II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.150 blueY: 0.080 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329
(II) RADEON(0): Supported established timings:
(II) RADEON(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@67Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@56Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 832x624@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1152x864@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported standard timings:
(II) RADEON(0): #0: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897
(II) RADEON(0): #1: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337
(II) RADEON(0): Supported detailed timing:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 108.0 MHz Image Size: 338 x 270 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1328 h_sync_end 1440 h_blank_end 1688 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 1024 v_sync: 1025 v_sync_end 1028 v_blanking: 1066 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 81 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz
(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: SyncMaster
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: H9NXC27207
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0): 00ffffffffffff004c2d240137314a4d
(II) RADEON(0): 330e01036c221b782aaaa5a654549926
(II) RADEON(0): 145054bfef808180714f010101010101
(II) RADEON(0): 010101010101302a009851002a403070
(II) RADEON(0): 1300520e1100001e000000fd00384b1e
(II) RADEON(0): 510e000a202020202020000000fc0053
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ryeguy146 wrote:
The proprietary driver doesn't yet support XOrg 7.5, so unless I want to rip out X and downgrade, that's out of the question. Hell, I don't even know where I'd get the source for 7.4 (latest supported) if I wanted it. MadTux suggests that ATI may be releasing the next version of the Catalyst soon, so maybe they'll support 7.5 with that. Maybe not. I don't have this problem using, say, ubuntu with the old XOrg.
The xf86-video-radeon gives me a black screen, so that's out, though I haven't tried either the xf86-video-radeon-git or the xf86-video-ati-git, I may just bust those out and see what it gets me.
Flamelab's suggestion seems plausable. Installing xf86-video-ati-git and using his xorg.conf sample; I'll try that out now and report back shortly.
Edit:
Well that's interesting. Trying flamelab's suggestion does seem to work perfectly. No green, no black screen, just good stuff. Glxgears runs nicely (which I assume is OpenGL). My xorg.conf is as follows:
Section "Device"
Identifier "My Graphics Card"
Driver "radeon"
Option "DRI" "on"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Option "DMAForXv" "on"
Option "RenderAccel" "on"
EndSection
So that's something. Compositing still doesn't wish to work, but I think that I'm getting to where I want to be. Thanks for the tip, M177ER.
In order to see 3D with xf86-video-ati-git or you'll wait for linux kernel 2.6.32 (coming soon), or you can build the -git versions of mesa,libgl,ati-dri, kernel etc which can cause trouble if you don't know what to do. See here if you have time : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79509
As for the PKGBUILD: Xorg-server is a bit strict with full xorg.conf files lately. So creating a lite xorg.conf, can solve most problems.

Why does my 720 x 480 clip not fit in my 720 x 480 sequnce? (Black side bars)

Hopefully someone understands, I'm trying to make an edit with some Mini DV Standard Definition footage in Premiere Pro CS5 and Im using a Mac with Lion 10.7.4. All of the clips are .mov and 720 x 480 and I have the sequence set to DV - NTSC 720x 480. I'm noticing that the clips just about fit the frame size except for these thin black bars on the sides. It became more noticeable when I tried using a video transition as seen in the photo below. The bars do not show when watching the clip in quicktime only when in a premiere or in an exported video. This also happens in After Effects as well. Any help on getting rid of these black bars woud be appreciated. Or are they supposed to be there?
(Using the center split video transition)

what additional parameters do I need to give you that would diagnose this problem? Or are you just being a snobby forum dude that has to give the person in need of help a hard time. If you can't help me with the information I've given you probably dont know the answer to my question. How about I rephrase my question. Have you ever seen a problem like this occur, and if so what setting or "parameter" was incorrect that caused this?
I do not mean to seem snobby, but what I am missing is the PAR of the Source Footage. If it's been posted above, then I apologize, as I just did not see it (even on re-reading the thread).
As for my knowing the answer, you could be correct. However, it sounds like there is a mis-match between the PAR in your Sequence, and that of your Source Footage. The "small black lines" sound like the difference between a Sequence PAR of 1.212 (Widescreen non-square pixels) and PAR of 1.0 (square pixels). But, then I could be wrong on that, and it's the reason that I wanted to be able to compare the PAR of the Sequence, and the PAR of the Source Footage. If we rule that out, then we need to look elsewhere for a solution.
Good luck, and sorry if I seemed the least bit snobby, or rude. I am just trying to help you get 100% full screen.
Hunt

Importing dvx-200 P2 into 720 x 480

I have video shot on a dvx 200 and I want to import that into my 720 x 480 sequence for TV. When I import the P2 footage into my file, FCP automatically resizes it to fit into 720 wide to accommodate all of the file (1280 x 720).
My question is this: When I enlarge this footage to approximately 120%-133%, will this give me bad image quality and pixelazation? OR does FCP know that this footage is 1280 x 720 and the resize is negligible?
I followed all the tutorials at proapptips for importing and handling P2 footage, but it didn't answer my question.
Thanks in advance!

But you are not enlarging it 120%. You are simply shrinking it less. Have you looked at the motion tab of the clip (double click on it in the timeline to put it in the viewer)?
Patrick

720 x 480 vs. 640 x 480, which one to use?

This is not a iMovie specific question, but it is related. I always thought that SD was 640 x 480 and I always format any stills I use for that format. Everything has been fine. 640 x 480 = 4:3. Recently somebody said that you should format for 720 x 480, even for SD. I'm a little confused, SD is 4:3 while 720 x 480 is 3:2. If you use this format will the edges get cut off on a SD TV, or will the image get squished?
Thanks
Chris

where the 720 x 480 came from
For historical resons there is some "extra room" around the video frame. This is the root of all kinds of errors when people calculate aspect ratios:
Standard definition NTSC DV's sampling matrix is 720x480 (that includes the "extra room" around the image although often there is content in all pixels). DV uses rectangular pixels -- the pixel aspect ratio is 4320:4739 = ~0.912. So the pixels aren't square and you have to scale the image to see the correct proportions. iMovie and a TV set do this automatically but sometimes the poor user might see an unscaled image and think something is seriously wrong...
Notice that inside (and outside!) of that 720x480 sampling matrix the actual active picture size is 710.85 x 486. Weird but true.
Now, to see the correct proportions you have to scale rectangular pixels to square pixels. You usually do that by multiplying the horizontal pixel count by the pixel aspect ratio:
So the square pixel horizontal sampling matrix becomes 720 x (4320:4739) = ~656. So you should scale 720x480 to 656x480 to see the correct proportions on a computer monitor.
The same calculation applies also to the actual active picture size: 710.85 x (4320:4739) = 648. So the square pixel actual active picture size is 648x486 which is EXACTLY 4:3!! THAT is the 4:3 ratio we talk about -- not the 640x480 which is just a cropped value of the former weird size.
The same principles apply also to 16:9 ratios.
http://www.iki.fi/znark/video/conversion/

720 x 480

When exporting in final cut express. 720 x 480 is actually 640 x 480, it even says in parenthesis. I export in dv/dvcpro ntsc . I have tried exporting in NTSC 720 x 480 4:3 in the size settings, and I have tried custom sizing the file to 720 x 480. I have also tried preserving the aspect ratio by cropping the image. When exported all of the files were the same number of pixels, and under movie properties the exported files say that they are 640 x 480. I capture the footage in dv-ntsc. In final cut pro I followed the same steps, with the same footage, and 720 x 480, is actually 720 x 480, when comparing the files and opening them in quicktime, the size difference is dramatic. How can I get an actual 720 x 480 export in final cut express? Also, Is there a way to change/access the easy set up preferences individually in final cut express?

"I followed the same steps, with the same footage, and 720 x 480, is actually 720 x 480, when comparing the files and opening them in quicktime, the size difference is dramatic. How can I get an actual 720 x 480 export in final cut express?"
I work in NTSC DV. I import it that way from the camera, and export that way (Export as Quicktime Movie) for DVD creation. I work in both FC Pro and Express. Sometimes I have move the same project between both apps. No difference; DV NTSC is 720X480. Looks the same in both apps, works the same.
Maybe it is because you are not exporting as Qucktime Movie but are are using some flavor of Quicktime Conversion. Or maybe its because you aren't import actual DV video.
"Also, Is there a way to change/access the easy set up preferences individually in final cut express? "
Not sure what you mean by this, but you can select DV NTSC from the Easy Setup menu; that is the setup you should be using with your setup.

[Missing] Firewire NTSC (720 x 480) option

This happened in 2 edit suites. I fixed it in edit 1 by resetting PRAM and trashing prefs. Edit 2 won't see it.
I can capture via Firewire from this deck (Sony M35U), so I obviously have a connection. System Profiler shows the deck and all its info, so it's obviously recognized by the computer. If I capture via the AJA, I can still set deck control over Firewire, so it's obviously THERE.
Yet, when I go to View/Video Output, it's not even an option. I don't even get the [Missing] Firewire NTSC 720 x 480 option. It's just not there. I have all the AJA options, but not the FIrewire ones. Anyone seen this disappear like that?
Tried:
Resetting PRAM several times
Trashing prefs (all of 'em)
Disconnecting all cables and reconnecting
Checked all of the settings on the deck several times
Changed Firewire cable twice
WOndering if this is an AJA conflict, but it works now in the other edit suite, which is a clone of this one. Weird and frustrating.
Haven't tried setting up a new user yet, gonna try that now. If you have a clue, please clue me in…

All the settings were exactly the same. I changed nothing. It was a weird experience, but on a whim I decided to simply swap the decks in the rooms, wondering if there was some corrupt communication from the decks via the Firewire. Seems that was the case, because once I switched rooms, everything worked. Glad it worked out, because I was about to send the decks in for repair, having tested the ports, the Firewire cables, and FCP, and all came out working fine. Can't explain it, but it works.
Thanks.

In iLife08 what is best setting to convert avi 720 and digital video 1080i

What is the bottom line for best quality for 720 p TV.
1.) My import is digital video 1080i to i Movie 08 (full quality)
What should I use for sharing on AppleTV
- the preset Large (which is 960x 540)
- or some custom setting 25 fps at 1220x 720? ( H.264 display dimensions at 24/25 fps is 720p (1280x720) ) - or what should the setting be??
2.) Have Windows avi older 720 *480 video, what is best setting to convert this for Apple TV? The 640 setting on QuickTime premium is not very good
Thank you so much. Peter

Your best option if you are using NTSC footage in imovie is the export to/movie large (960 x 540) at 30 fps, the resolution won't go any higher and still work on the tv. Don't even think about changing the framerate to 24/25 fps, even though you'll be able to export to 720p (1280 x720) changing the framerate will make your video jerky.
If you are using PAL then yes you could export to 720p (even though the specs say 24 fps, 25 fps does in fact work as well), you could try a few tests yourself but I've already done them and IMHO there is so little difference between 960 x 540 and 1280 x 720 that it isn't worth messing about setting up and trying several manual exports to get the best results when you can click one button and be done.
So far a AVI conversion is concerned, I'd try mpegstreamclip, but saying that I can't really be sure. AVI is a container not a codec and I would need to know what codec is actually used inside the container to answer your question properly (Quicktime may tell you though). The problem with AVI is that it is simply so old (even microsoft abandoned it over 10 years ago), unfortunately in a small number of cases some of the codecs that were used in AVI are simply no longer able to be converted. Probably not so likely but at least you are warned.

All of a sudden (video) files added to my iTunes library after a certain date aren't playable on other devices.

hello!
All of a sudden I have a weird issue with playing video-files added to my iTunes library after a specific date.
This is the situation so far:
I encode the video for iTunes with the same settings for the last 3 years. I know these vids play on all my devices. AppleTV & iPad. All of a sudden videos added to my library after the 8th of september aren't playable on my AppleTV and iPad. I can play them directly in iTunes and by accessing them directly via the finder and quicktime.
The following errors occur:
When I pull the video from iTunes on my AppleTV.. the video simply doesn't play.
When I pull the video from iTunes on my iPad I get a message that the file can't be found.
When I push the video from iTunes to the AppleTV using airplay I get a message that there has occured an error while connecting to the AirPlay-device "Apple TV". The necesary file could not be found. In addition when the AppleTV is switched off it doesn't turn on doing this, suggesting that there is something missing on my mac itself.
All the above errors aren't popping up when I choose a video that has been put in my library before the 9th of september. Then everything works as expected.
This is what I tried:
Turning off and on home sharing on all devices including the mac.
Logging in wiht a different apple ID though using the same ID as before.
I created a new iTunes library and populated with a video that was added after the 8th of september and one that was added before the 9th of september. Surprisingly the older one played and not the newer one.. while they both used the same encoding settings. The new library was locally on my mac as my original library is on a NAS.
I encode my videos with Quicktime 7 Pro using the following settings:
H.264 (current frame rate, key-frames:automatic, re-order frames, automatic bitsize)
Medium Quality
Multi-pass
current resolution (which is always 1280 X 720)
AAC sound
44.100 kHz
128kbps
I'm using the Mountain lion 10.8.2 and iTunes 10.7 Mountain lion got updated a few days after 19th of september and iTunes i think as well. Both versions were released after this issue seemed to pop up.
I also have two video-files encoded on the same day with the same settings that dragged into the iTunes library on the 9th of september. One works.. the other doesn't.
So I wonder if there is somebody out there that can tell me what might have happened here and how I could fix this issue.
Thank you in advance.

Hi Seraphiel07.
I have a very similar issue. Hardware involved:
Apple MacMini (Mid 2011) - OSX 10.8.2. iTunes 10.7. Home Sharing enabled.
Apple TV (3rd Generation). Home Sharing (access) enabled.
Apple MacBook Pro (15" Mid-2009). OSX 10.8.2. iTunes 10.7. Home Sharing enabled.
Apple iPad 2 (Wifi only). iOS 6
Apple iPhone 4S. iOS 6
All connected through:
Apple Time Capsule 8.0211n (4th Gen)
I have an iTunes library on the MacBook Pro, shared over "Home Sharing" and another (duplicate content, different library name) iTunes library on my MacMini, which is also accessed through the Apple TV.
All software is current (as of Sep 26th).
All movies are iTunes purchases. 80 in total.
All files are purchased (and home shared) under one account.
My last two iTunes purchases both HD movies on 09/17/2012 and 09/05/2012 refuse to appear on any device accessing either of the two Libraries over Home Sharing. It should be noted that every other movie (the other 78) all show up and play correctly. I therefore know it is not an issue with connectivity, otherwise I would see zero movies available.
I have:
1. Removed all content from each Library and re-added
2. Upgraded the OS on the MacMini 10.8.2
3. Tested viewing the two missing movies on other Apple devices and no luck.
4. Turn home sharing on and off within iTunes and also on each device.
It would appear to me that the issue is with the files themselves, rather than the devices as different devices and different versions have been tested.
All comments welcome.

What's the best quality export for a 720 X 480 size, 24fps mp4 file?

Whats the best quality export for a 720 X 480 size, 24fps mp4 file?
This movie trailer will be sent to a distributer overseas.
The export I been resorting to lately is MPEG 2 DV High Quality as oppose to anything HDTV because it just shrinks the picture, obviously lol
Do I have anymore options besides Mpeg 2: NTSC DV High Quality?

Lagarith is a codec that you install separately. A very brief Search would have given you that info.
You can access the Lagarith option (once installed) using the Microsoft AVI format, and selecting Lagarith under Video Codec in the Video tab.

NTSC 720 X 480 4:3??? This format isn't' actually 4:3...

I've come across some confusion in terms of exporting the proper 4:3 format for viewing on TV. Why does it label the format 'NTSC' when really it is not 4:3 and in fact stretches your video to fit that ratio?
It ends up bringing the video down to 640 X 480 but not without distorting it first.
Any answers? Ideas?

If you are creating video for standard definition broadcast (or DVD distribution) you must maintain a 720 x 480 rectangular pixel image. That specification hasn't and will never change (for reverse compatibility purposes).
If you are creating for high definition you need to research which format is required, there are high def specs that use rectangular pixels for distribution and convert to square for display.

Mixing 1280 X 720 quicktime files with 720 X 480

I have a question about the best way to mix footage of different resolutions in Final Cut Pro HD? I am working in Tiger 10.4.5 and I will only need to output to standard 720 X 480. I'd like to get all of my material into a consistent size before editing the film. Most of the HD footage is already captured to a Lacie Drive. What's the best way to downconvert this footage?
Thanks for any advice, cj
PowerMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5) Final Cut Pro HD

Export with QT Pro to your current format. So from HD to DV/NTSC.
Same to lose all that resolution.
Shane

IDVD 08 insist to transform NTSC 720 x 480 files in 640 x 480!!!

iDVD 08 insist to burn NTSC 720 x 480 files in 640 x 480
And of course smaller with a black box…
I've tried everything in vain.
It's the same If I select widescreen or 4/3 menus…
My files are mp4 H.264 files.
I'm quite desperate since I don't get WHY iDVD wants that DVDs look like 50 years old TV shows !
I looked at the forum and couldn't find any info relative to this problem.
I wonder if it's the fact that these files are Progressive. But I thought iDVD took care of it…
This is a full description of a file I use:
* MediaInfo Mac // Plain text file report
General / Container Stream # 1
Total Video Streams for this File -> 1
Total Audio Streams for this File -> 1
Video Codecs Used -> AVC
Audio Codecs Used -> AAC LC
File Format -> MPEG-4
Play Time -> 16mn 50s
Total File Size -> 1.76 GiB
Total Stream BitRate -> 14.9 Mbps
Video Stream # 1
Codec (Human Name) -> AVC
Codec (FourCC) -> avc1
Codec Profile -> [email protected]
Frame Width -> 720 pixels
Frame Height -> 480 pixels
Frame Rate -> 29.970 fps
Total Frames -> 30283
Display Aspect Ratio -> 1.500
Video Standard -> NTSC
Scan Type -> Progressive
Colorimetry -> 4:2:0
Codec Settings (Summary) -> 2 Ref Frames
QF (like Gordian Knot) -> 1.418
Codec Settings (CABAC) -> No
Video Stream Length -> 16mn 50s 443ms
Video Stream BitRate -> 14.7 Mbps
Video Stream BitRate Mode -> VBR
Bit Depth -> 24 bits
Video Stream Size -> 1.73 GiB (98%)
Video Stream Language -> English
Date of Original Encoding -> UTC 2008-12-14 20:24:26
Audio Stream # 1
Codec -> AAC
Codec (FourCC) -> 40
Audio Stream Length -> 16mn 50s 112ms
Audio Stream BitRate -> 256 Kbps
Audio Stream BitRate Mode -> CBR
Number of Audio Channels -> 2
Audio Channel's Positions -> L R
Sampling Rate -> 48.0 KHz
Bit Depth -> 16 bits
Audio Stream Size -> 30.8 MiB (2%)
Audio Stream Language -> English
Date of Original Encoding -> UTC 2008-12-14 20:24:26
Thanks in advance for any help!
m

A TV uses rectangular pixels: 720x480.
A computer uses square pixels. So, those same pixels (720x480) are actually 640x480 and a computer. So this is normal.
The quality of your DVDs would be a separate and subjective issue. However, I can suggest that you NOT use H.264 (very compressed format) as the format for iDVD (which does it's own compression) to work with. I would give iDVD a DV or AIC file.
Mike

Is all 720 x 480 video 4:3?

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