Is "Audible firmware" (2.20.05) SA

Hi, im posting this thread cause im not sure if i need to install the new firmware that was given in some other post that i didnt understand, the orginal file was token from here: http://www.audible.com/adbl/store/mu...okie=Yes#micro, press " Creative Zen Micro " link button..
I heard that if you upgrade the firmware you cant go back to the older version.. today im using ...
Well i hope that you can tell me if is safe or not..
THX...

I agree with luvmyrescuedogs completely. Though I really didn't need Audible support (I switched from a Napster To Go trial to YMU right at the same time, so I needed 2.x firmware), I suspected that with the big jump in numbers from 2..02 (which I had before) to 2.20.05, it might have included the long-awaited "battery-drain" fixes; from my testing, it apparently does. And Audible is a known reputable site; they certainly didn't hack the firmware.
The only issue is whether or not it's really still "in beta", so to speak; but from my own testing, it seems at least as stable as 2..02 (which itself was originally released as beta, though it later became a formal release without any changes).
No, my files weren't deleted; but then I upgraded within the 2.x firmware family. Switching firmware families (.x to 2.x, or vice versa) will wipe out all your files; but that's true of Creative's official releases as well.

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Zen Micro 2.20.05 (Audible) firmware has "battery drain" f

Since nobody responded to my questions about whether or not the "Audible firmware" for the Zen Micro (2.20.05) also applied the long-awaited "battery drain" fix for MTP/Janus users, I decided to test it myself by upgrading the firmware (even though I'm not an Audible user), then shutting it down and waiting 4 hours. I'm happy to report that my Micro "cold-booted" from the Creative copyright screen, just like ..0. So those of us that need subscription support (or Audible support, for that matter) no longer have to deal with the "battery drain" problem!!!
Since Creative still hasn't posted this firmware here, I'm reposting the link to it on the Audible site (as posted in an earlier thread):
http://download.audible.com/creative...le_2_20_05.zip
Download the file, then connect your Micro, open the file, and run the EXE file inside.
Audible users should also download and install the latest AudibleManager, as described in this thread (this step isn't necessary for non-Audible users):
http://forums.creative.com/creativel...ssage.id=88333
Since I have a third-party charger, I'll test it with my Micro later on to see if ..0's "locked charging" feature works with 2.20.05 as well. (It won't work right now because my Micro is fully charged.) I may also test to make sure it doesn't have the "super-drain" problem .0.02 had.Message Edited by RBBrittain on 09-9-2005 07: AM

luvmyrescuedogs wrote:
A big Thank You!!! for letting us know about the firmware upgrade for the Zen Micro. I just downloaded the firmware upgrade and upgraded my Audible Manager. No problems. It warned me that all my music would be wiped out, but it is all still there. Playing great. Wonder why Creative didn't announce it here before Audible did?
luvmyrescuedogs
I think the warning is for upgrading from .x firmware in general. Changing between the .x and 2.x families wipes out the hard dri've; minor upgrades within each family don't. (I didn't lose any of my music while going from 2..02 to 2.20.05 either.)
It's hard to say why Audible beat Creative to the punch; my best guess is that Creative is applying EU volume limits to the European version before releasing it anywhere. (Audible's UK site doesn't list the Micro yet.)

Does the Audible 2.2x_ firmware update really fix battery iss

i've been reading that the audible firmware fix takes care of the battery conflict.
is this true?

The new firmware that adds Audible support also reduces the standby time to 4 hours, which is the same change that was in the previous PDE firmware (referred to as the battery drain fix).
Cat

MuVo "device not connected" firmware update error

When I try to execute the plan given by Pook Kok Choy (below between "=====")
I successfully get MUVO_DRV_LB_00_04_250.exe installed.
When I move to step 2 I have the device attached to the PC but I get the message "device not connected to the USB port".
This happens, with the device connected and on while trying to install:
MUVOAudible_PCFW__40_2_L4.exe
Apparently, I am not alone in having this problem.
Apparently, this happens to others - using XP - specifically when trying to do this firmware upgrade in order to play purchased WMA, DRM protected music.
The PC recognizes the MuVo 28.
It assigns it a dri've letter when it is plugged in.
The install procedure for the *Audible* firmware does not see it.
Please help.
Tbanks,

JLRtist,
After you have installed the latest downloaded driver, did you run the player into recovery mode? Try this,press and hold the PLAY button, continue holding the button while inserting the player into the USB port for about 0-5 sec. Run the firmware update file.
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Nomad Zen extra jukebox Firmware upgrade for Naps

I am sure that this has been posted before however, I am very keen to find out when this upgrade is available for my 30G jokebox?
Cheers!
Steve

This is the long-awaited Zen Xtra firmware upgrade; all current discussion about it is in the sticky at the top of this forum. (Per their policy, the moderators will eventually lock this thread in favor of the sticky.)
SSR, the top poster on this board (and an expert on Creative players), has an email list on his own website for new Creative player downloads: http://www.stainlesssteelrat.net/njb.htm . Though it's not specific to any one player, you can be sure the Zen Xtra firmware upgrade for MTP/Janus (the technology behind Napster To Go) will be announced there when it's available. (And it works, too: I just got word of the new Audible firmware for my Zen Micro thru that list.)Message Edited by RBBrittain on 09-8-2005 04:07 PM

FIX for USB issue where Files get corupted after I sucsessfully transfer to N

MP3 Player: Muvo N200 GB
Firmware: Creative MuVo Micro N200 Audible Firmware Upgrade .2.0
OS: Windows 2000 pro
Machine: Ibm Thinkpad
PROBLEM:
drag a folder of MP3's to the N200 in the Windows Explorer
2 wait for the zig zag line on the MP3 player to go straight.
3 Stop the Muvo mass stoarge device
4 Unplug the USB from the computer
5 Turn the Muvo N200 on
6 Folder has vanished
7 Plug Muvo back into computer
8 Folder is there, all files are missing
Also .. if I plug the Muvo in right after I coppied the files (after step 4) the files exist. I dragged them to the desktop, compared them to the originals with a binary compare and they are identical ... just to see if the files got corrupted.
It seems that when I turn the Muvo on, the files get deleted.
I then installed the N200 Media Explorer with drivers .. didn't help at all.
I tried this on a different machine, exact same files, and it works fine. Same OS, no Media Explorer.
Also, this is my second N200. Sent the other one back after talking with support. Got an error at the end of a format. When I tried to install the .2 firmware, I could no longer turn the player on (didn't try recover). I'm sure this N200 will do the same on my thinkpad. I installed the firmware on the other machine (fool me once ....)
EDIT: Further testing showed that this is a problem with my thinkpad. The N200 works fine as a thumb dri've on every other machine I tried. I tried using another thumb dri've on my Thinkpad and it failed in the same way. Also tried a Muvo NX .. just for kicks and it didn't work either.
FUnny thing is that I can copy a file to the N200, read it back right away .. compare them and they are identical. ONce I remove the dri've, and plug it back in, the file is corrupted.
Message Edited by chrisjc on 06-03-2005 03:5 PM
Message Edited by chrisjc on 06-03-2005 03:54 PM
Message Edited by chrisjc on 06-3-2005 0:26 PM

:smileyvery-happy:My N200 now works on my thinkpad, and I just have to report on what I did to fix it .. just in case this helps anyone however indirectly.
In the device manager, I changed all Host controllers from
Intel 8280CA/CAM USB Uni'veral Host Controller
to
Strandard Uni'versal PCI to USB Host Controller
And now My USB not only works on my N200, it also fixed an issue with my USB scanner.
HOW TO DO THIS:
Right Click on the My Computer ICON
select MANAGE
select Device Manager in the left hand column
expand Uni'versal Serial Bus Controller in right hand column
Click on Intel 8280CA/CAM USB Uni'veral Host Controller and
Select Driver Tab and select Update Driver
Next ... select radio button that says Display a list of Known.....
then select Standard...
do this for all Host controllers.
Good luck ... I've been through everything if you want to send me a message.

Zen Touch is dead, Zen Vision:

I threw my bag on the ground in an angry rage (not Zen related, not very Zen at all in fact). Unfortunately my Zen Touch was in it at the time, and now is sadly dead and headed for the recycling plant ('hard disk problem' screen, click of death, won't reboot etc.) I thought the Zen Touch was a great player a bit let down by firmware / accessory support. I see that Creative are improving these things for the Zen Vision:M so I thought I might upgrade to that. Therefore I have a few questions about this player:
) Does it have a removable battery or not?
2) What are some good cases for this player? (the Creative one looks nice)
3) Is the Audible firmware update going to come back, and what were the problems with it's Is type 2 Audible track good enough quality?
4) Is there anywhere to download legal music/ movie videos in the UK, and is the video feature really as good as it is cracked up to be?
5) Does the black Zen Vision: M scratch too easily?
6) Can you switch from music to radio with the separate wired remote?
7) Should I wait for Creative to make a player with a DAB digital radio (I like radio) or will this never happen?
R I P my poor Zen Touch, I am sorry I destroyed you. Message Edited by joshua32 on 06-07-2006 04:52 PM

. NO removable battery, sorry. But it has a amazing battery life.
2. The one comes with the device is ideal for carrying, but you can't, of course, use the device inside it. I remember I saw some cases for it.
3. I don't know, I'm currently using that firmware (you are talking about .40 firmware with Audible support, which was removed after a few days, right), and have some problems with the sound. As soon as I upgraded, I started hearing some sort of clicky noise in the background, my files are mp3.
4. Don't know about download, but video quality is superior, just as the screen. (supports WMV v3, DivX, MPEG, screen res: 320x240, 800kbps max. for video)
5. Yeah A bad side of the device. The screen gets very easily scratched, more than the device itself (I have a black one), but fortunately, they don't create a problem as the screen is really bright (you can set it also, the brightness, there are 0 levels)
6. I dunno, don't have the remote.
7. I don't know anything about DAB, sorry. But I don't expect (personally) anything with better radio capabilities soon.
r.i.p. btw the case is also a really good protector from crashes for ZVM.
Bottom line:
I've bought mine in March , and using it frequently, every day.
Definitaly recommend it. Feel free to ask more about ZVM if you have any questions.

MuVo TX SE 1Gb is dea

Two days ago I have bought this player. Today after loading from a computer it has ceased to work. The computer finds disc, I can write down and transfer data, but the player does not work. The battery is charged, tried another. At my friend same on 256Mb, having taken advantage of its cover, has received the same result - does not work.
NOMAD MuVo TX SE Audible Firmware .4.02
Somebody faced such problem? Help me please.
P.S. Sorry for my english.

When connected to your PC reload the firmware.
PB

Muvo TX SE 1GB - Strange Noi

I bought a Muvo TX SE GB yesterday and everything seems to be fine, except some kind of strange beeping and whirring noise (that a cd player sometimes makes). I have read other threads with this problem, but no one has actually told how they got rid of it (that is, IF they got rid of it). I have tried the firmware for the muvo TX: NOMAD MuVo TX Audible Firmware Upgrade .0.05
Is this the correct one for the muvo tx se? If so, it doesn't seem to work. I chose the option to format my mp3-player, and when I turned it on, it was still making the noise, even when it wasn't playing a song.
Please help, I couldn't find the answer elsewhere, and if it is there, I must have skipped it (if so, please redirect me) or it was written vaguely.
So I would appreciate any response, thank you.

If it makes you happy - I think I have the exact same problem with my recently bought MuVo 52 TX. When I turn the player on I hear sort of buzzing/whirring static noise in my headphones. It changes a bit when I press volume buttons, albo it as if "reacts" when I am skipping folders using menu - every time I skip a folder there is a "buzz" (apart from that there is a regular buzz in the background).
My friend who has muvo 52 TX FM has no such problem. I am sure this is not a problem with headphones because I connected them to iPod mini and they played fine.
I wrote creative support about this and they suggested me to do a firmware upgrade.
After I did it the player "died" - I read many people have the same problem:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=95672#M95672
I will have to return the player to the store I bought it in.
Regards,
Simplex

MuVo - When new track begins I cannot rewind back into the end of the previous tra

Hi all, here is my problem. i tried to put it in a formal way to ease the reading.
Player: Creative MuVo 52MB TX FMFirmware: Creative MuVo TX FM Audible Firmware Upgrade Version .3.03
Problem: When new track begins I cannot rewind back into the end of the previous track. If I want to hear the end of a track I have to start from the beginning and fast froward through the tracks entirety towards the end of the track. This is especially frustrating when listening to a 20+ minute podcast or audiobook and all I want is to here the last couple of minutes. As stated in the user manual "frequent use of fast froward/reverse" will use more battery power and this is not an acceptable solution for wanting to hear the last couple of minutes. (Usually this happens when i am interrupted and the next track has already started, etc.)
Suggested solution: If a user is at 00:00:00 and the user holds the rewind button then user shall start rewinding from then end of the last track. An analogy of this would be if you fast froward to a new chapter on a DVD player and then press and hold rewind, it allows you to rewind through the end of the skipped chapter. Please include this functionality in the next firmware update.
thanks for your time, nickc

Nick,
Great suggestion. FYI, I have similar hardware to yours:
Player: Creative MuVo 256MB TX FMFirmware: Creative MuVo TX FM Audible Firmware Upgrade Version .3.03
I imagine there are several ways to implement your idea. One way would be to have the firmware let you: () begin rewinding from any point in the current program; (2) when rewind reaches the 00:00:00, a tone could be emitted (this would alert the user that s/he has reached the beginning of the current program); (3) then the user could either decide to stop there or (4) by holding down the rewind, say, 2-3 seconds, the rewind would be forced to 'skip' back to the end of the previous program.
If the user is not listening to the program while rewinding (and thus cannot hear the tone), this should not be a problem, as the display would make clear what is happening.
On another issue...
Regarding your comment "...creative does a good job with the timing of the fast-foward/rewind feature available now," I beg to differ. In my experience, the timing of the TX FM's rewind makes it very difficult for a user to do an 'instant replay' of a short audiobook section. This is frequently needed when a narrator's voice is unclear, or the user is distracted by something.
For example, say I want to review the last 5 seconds. This is impossible, as the rewind specifications cause the rewind to behave approximately as follows:
- First 3 seconds realtime rewinds program 6-7 seconds
- After that, each second realtime rewinds 30 seconds; so each additional second rewinds 30 seconds
- Of course, it gets faster and faster thereafter (in 30-second, 5-minute, and 5-minute segments)
You see, therefore, that it is impossible to efficiently skip back 5 seconds, as the rewind goes back 6-7 seconds, then skips all the way back to the 37-second point. The only way to go back 5 seconds (a couple of sentences) is to: () overshoot your target by an unknown number of seconds, then wait a long time until your desired segment appears, or (2) tediously rewind 5-6 seconds; wait until the TX FM is ready for another rewind; rewind another 5-6 second segment; wait again; then rewind another short segment to get to the 5-seconds-back point. For the most part I use method (2), but do not always release the rewind button in time each of 3 times before the accelerated rewind kicks in. What a drag!
The Audible Otis player, as I recall, did not have this particular problem, though its buttons were harder to manipulate.
I would doubt whoever designed this rewind specification has experience listening to audiobooks.
CREATIVE: We need a rewind function that eventually picks up speed, but I would recommend that the most recently played approx. 30 seconds of program time be accessible via a rewind compressed to appox. 5 seconds realtime.
Catherina & Jeremy, are you listening?
Roger

Availability of the 1 gb N200 in the

Creative,
Alternati'vely to the Zen Micro I could be interested in the gb version of the N200, but it is listed as 'not available yet' on every retailer but is available for backorder.
Any idea when this device (any color) will be available?
And can you confirm it is Audible compatible?
Thank you

Tonyinla,
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I have no information on when these will become available but I will post in the forums once I have some information.
Jeremy

File system error on MuVo TX

After I transfer files to my MuVo TX FM, and I try to play the music, I get a message "File System Error. I have followed the instructions and formatted again, but I still get the message. Any suggestions?

This is a post by Surfn, which helped me:
I've had a similar problem with MuVo TX that is about one year old. When I let the battery run down low, I started having the problem. First what didn't work, then what worked:
-Replacing the battery didn't work.
2-Trying to turn it on gave "File System Error."
3-I am on Windows 2000 OS. When I tried to click on the removable dri've in Windows explorer, it caused that program to freeze up.
4-When I tried to double-click on "My Computer" and right-click on the removable dri've and select "format," nothing happened.
5-When I tried to download the latest firmware and install (with the device plugged into the USB port), after a long time of searching it said that no devices were found.
This is what WORKED for me: I downloaded the firmware NOMAD MuVo TX Audible Firmware Upgrade .0.05 from http://www.nomadworld.com/downloads/drivers When I ran this self-extracting executable, it gave some comment to the effect of "searching for devices." At this moment I held down the pause/play button and plugged the MuVo into my USB port and continued to hold the button down for another 5 to 20 seconds. This was how I was able to finally get it to find the device. At this point I was able to follow the rest of the instructions that were posted previously: check/tick the 'Format Data Area' in the dialog box and click on 'Start'.
I think I ran the firmware executable a second time without checking 'Format Data Area' in order to make sure the Firmware was installed on the newly formatted flash dri've, but I might not have needed to do that last step.
This has gotten me up and running where none of the other suggestions worked for me. I hope this works for you.
I am happy to say that my muvo is working fine now.
The only thing that I didn't do exactly like surfn described is that I didn't
press the play/pause button during the detection of the mp3 player.
I tried pressing the button, but the player was not detected, so I decided
not to press it and see if it works.
The player was detected, I selected the "Format data area" option, and pressed
start. It worked like a charm.

Help Stuck with my M

I have had? this muvo 64mb for nearly 2 years and this last week i put music on it from windows media player and it dosent transfer i tried formating it say cannot be formated i tried upgrading firmware wouldent let me i have tried every thing i can think of to make it so i dont have to listen to the same music over and over. the weird thing is i've tried deleting it manualy says dri've has 0mb used and i make so i can disconect play it same music plug it back it and everything is back :angry: i need help plz reply as soon as possible
C.M.P

CollinP,
Did you install the latest driver from the web first and then follow these exact steps as mention in the firmware download?
Note
To install this firmware upgrade, do the following:</LI>
Transfer all files from your player to your computer before installing the firmware upgrade.
Connect your player to your computer while pressing and holding the Play button. Keep pressing the Play button for 0 seconds after connecting the player to your computer.
Release the Play button. A dialog box appears, prompting you to install a Player Recovery Device driver.
Follow the onscreen instructions to complete the device driver installation.
Once the Player Recovery Device driver installation is complete, double-click the firmware upgrade .EXE file.
When the NOMAD MuVo Audible Firmware Download dialog box appears, click the Start button.
Follow the onscreen instructions to complete the upgrade.
Disconnect your player.</LI>
Jason

Zen Sleek Photo and Audi

Hi everyone. First let me say for the millionth time how much I love my Sleek Photo. It puts the iPod to shame period. I love my Zen Micro, but my heart belongs to the Sleek photo. it has everything I wanted and more!
My question is, how long will it be before this player is compatible with Audible? I'm using my Zen Micro for now, but want to make the Sleek photo my main player for everything. It has bookmarks so I assume, but we know what assume means:smileyvery-happy:, it will be compatible with Audible.
This is a dumb queastion, but can I not just download the Zen Sleek Audible firmware? I won't with out confirmation of coarse, but except for the photo part are they not basically the same player?
Thanks Creative for this wonderful player. You really do listen to us!:smileyvery-happy:
Judi

DM,
Thanks. I mentioned when I posted that question that it was stupid to ask. I should know better, hey I thought I should at least ask. I know you all think I'm whiny for buying a Zen that is not yet Audible compatible, but this player is just wonderful. I still have my Micro, which is great also, but I'm hoping the Sleek Photo will also be Audible compatible. A tech at Audible told me that if the ZSP has bookmarks it will no doubt be added at some future date. I hope so. Thanks for answering, you are one of the most knowledgeable posters on the forum and I thought I'd get a response from you first.
Have a great weekend!
Judi
Very proud owner of a 5GB Zen Micro & a 20GB Zen Sleek Photo!:smileyvery-happy::I
Message Edited by quidditchseeker on 02-04-2006 04:32 AM

Zen Neeon dead

Hi,
I've recently got a Zen Neeon - I'm in the UK but my dad bought it for me duty free in the Far East. I've had it a week and it's been fine. I was trying to record directly from a stereo through a line in, and this worked. When I'd finished I unplugged from the stereo and plugged it in to the computer. The 'connected to USB' but not transferring symbol came up on the screen of the Neeon, but the PC said 'USB device not recognised'. I unplugged the Neeon, and the 'connected via USB' icon stayed on the screen and I couldn't switch it off. I tried resetting, and entering recovery mode and neither worked. Finally by pressing all buttons randomly I got it to reset, and then reformatted the player. I uninstalled the software on my PC and started again from scratch. It was working fine again, so I resynchronised it and left it plugged in to the switched on computer overnight to charge (first time the battery has needed charging). This morning it was completely dead again - I've got the 'connected to USB' symbol on the screen, and nothing will wake it up or change it. I've tried the reset button, I've tried the reset button and the play key and I've tried uninstalling the software on the PC and starting again. Nothing works.
I've phoned the helpline in Ireland, and they took me through all this again, and in the end said they couldn't help - suggested running the battery down until the player switches off completely - but that could take well over a week as it's new and just charged (and I can't use it at all). Is there ANYTHING else I can try? What've I done?!

I had problems with my neeon
I tried downloading driver but got nowhere but I got this back from technical support and after uninstalling and restalling everything this worked
thank you for contacting technical support.Please try to do a firmware update and format of the player to see if this could fix the problems you're experiencing.First of all; download the Mass Storage Driver. You will find this here;http://sg.creative.com/support/downloads/Select MP3 Players --> Zen --> Your players name.Click "Next".Select "English", your operating system, "Driver"Click on "Go".Click on "Download now" to the left of the Mass Storage Driver. Save it onto your computer.You'll find the latest firmware version here:http://sg.creative.com/support/downloads/Select MP3 Players --> Zen --> Your players name.Click "Next".Select "English", your operating system, "Firmware"Click on "Go".Click on "Download now" to the left of the firmware.Click on "Agree".Proceed as follows:* Connect your muvo to your pc while holding the play button. Keep on holding the play button for about ten seconds.* Release the play button.* A dialogbox asking if you'd like to install a recovery device driver should appear.* Follow the insructions and install the device.- (I think the option I used was the first one)* When the player recovery mode is finished, you may double click the firmware upgrade file.* When the Audible Firmware Download appears, click start.* Follow the instructions on the screenn to complete the installation, tick the format data area box when it appears.* Disconnect the player.

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