Is Disabling Random on Zen Touch Possib

This random button is giving me major headache. I tried to open the case but even that didn't as well as expected. Is there a way to somehow turn this off?? PLEASE HELP

If you actually used a Zen Touch, you might know what he is talking about. The idea for the random button was not well thought out at Creative. True, you can lock the player, but then you can't adjust the volume without unlocking, defeating largely the convenience of dedicated volume buttons. The random button also initiates a massi've shuffle of your entire library---not just the selected music. Most of us who would like this changed want something that offers to immediatlely shuffle selected music with one click and the whole library with two (or by holding it down) or something like that. I have accidentally hit this button more than one (you really only have to touch it) and it screwed up completely my selected music. This is certainly a legitimate issue.Nobody (not me, anyway) wants to have to lock-unlock the player before every single function change (volume, pause, etc.). If you have 3,000 or so songs on this player, watch what happens when you bump this button.
Message Edited by MikeM32 on 2-3-2005 06:32 PM

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PETITION: Change Zen Touch "Random" button functionali

I've heard alot of people mention this and thought it might be a good idea to make our voices heard (we might as well make use of all the time creative is taking to release the firmware!).
Basically I'm sick and tired of the random button. Sometimes I have the zen touch in my pocket and accidently press the random button and away goes my entire custom playlist, its so annoying especially when I haven't saved the playlist. It happens at least two times everyday while I'm on my way to college, I nearly broke down in tears the last time it happened. Yes I can use the hold switch, but I frequently switch tracks and its a joke having to hold/un-hold/hold/un-hold/hold constantly. Also, the remote is a rip-off so theres no going there!
OK, my proposal is this:
a) Single press - Zen Touch switches between normal and shuffle mode.
b) 3 second press - Zen Touch loads up entire music library in shuffle mode.
I'm 99.5% sure this is possible via firmware update, so please Creative, put me out of my misery!!!Message Edited by titaniumx3 on 05-05-2005 07:7 AM

I'd like to throw my $0.02 in. I completely agree that the RANDOM button's functionality should be changed. I don't use it because, upon pressing, it loads my ENTIRE library into the shuffle playlist. The problem is that I don't just carry music on my Zen Touch. I have audio books and audio dramas. Each audio drama is broken up into 8 to 20+ tracks. So, with the current RANDOM button functionality, it would work this way:
===============================================
(LOADS ENTIRE LIBRARY AND SETS MODE TO SHUFFLE)
Plays a Massi've Attack song
Plays an Incubus song
Plays Track 3 of the Doctor Who audio drama "Chimes of Midnight"
Plays a 939 episode of the Shadow radio play (which is 30 minutes long)
Plays a Cure song
Plays a reading from "The Dark Tower Book 4: Wizard and Glass"
Plays a Beastie Boys song
Plays a Strokes song
Plays Track from the Doctor Who audio "Scherzo"
etc....
===============================================
Clearly, this isn't a realistic way to shuffle audio. It works great if you use your Zen Touch for PURELY music. But I don't. I'd rather see the RANDOM button toggle between NORMAL and SHUFFLE modes, but not load any audio tracks to playlist. In fact, that was my first thought when I bought the Zen Touch of how the button works. Currently, for me, it's a pain.

Zen Touch Random Button Sugges

Others have wished the "random" button on the Zen Touch just played a randomized "selected music" list, rather than everything on the player as it does now. My ideal suggestion would be to make this button function something like the FFWD button; push it to randomized selected music or push and hold to randomize the whole dri've. The way it is now is not very useful for me, since I have a few thousand tracks on the player. Way too big a playlist to "randomize".

<I'm not sure if I understand what you're talking about, but when add music to a selection list, I can play only those songs in the play list on random/shuffle. Just set your player to shuffle and add music to selection, >
The idea of the dedicated "random" button was quick access to the "shuffle" function without going through the menu system (same as dedicated volume controls, etc.). Yes, everyone knows you can chage the play mode to shuffle and that will shuffle the "selected music". To do this requires several menu steps, however. Bumping the random button by mistake (the way it is set up by Creative now) causes your entire Zen to shuffle EVERYTHING. This takes, in my opinion, a positi've feature of the player and turns it into a negati've. I think pressing the button should toggle "random" in selected music only. This would be convenient and I think this is probably more in line with what was intended for this button to begin with. If you really want to shuffle your whole library (why?), you could press and hold the button.
It is not a huge deal, because there is a way to get the same thing done using the menu system, but then why have a dedicated button at all?

Replacement Zen Touch Randomly Disconne

So the first Zen Touch I got several months ago worked fine until about a month ago when it got a hard disk error. I got an RMA and got it replaced. However, the replacement, upon transferring files, would stop after just a few files had been transferred, claiming that the device had been disconnected (it hadn't.) I was using the latest firmware and drivers and the problem persisted in several different transfer methods. So I contacted Creative and they basically told me to get another RMA. So I did that, and uninstalled the drivers. When I got my second replacememnt and reinstalled the latest drivers and firmware, it had the exact same problems. So what could possibly be going wrong?
Thanks!

DaLkO,
Is the player currently using firmware version 2.xx.xx? Perhaps you can try these patches.
Windows Media Format 9.5 Runtime:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/8922
DRM performance fix:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902344
Jason

Direct transfer from camera to zen touch? -usb host- possib

I have Zen touch 40gb,is there usb host function or similiar way to transfer photos from my digital camera(Canon eos-400d) without using computer? i mean direct transfer from camera to my zen touch?thanks in advancebrgds

No, I am afraid it isn't possible. At least, I found this on the "Notmad Explorer" website:
Q:Can I transfer files directly from a digital camera to my player?
A:This is an interesting idea, but unfortunately, the players do not have the hardware or firmware necessary to directly communicate with other USB devices such as cameras. There's nothing we can do about this in software.
Hope that helps!

Q&A Guide about ZEN Touch 2

Hey people!
I had time to kill, and I've been around since a while now; I now own a ZEN Touch 2 since more than 6 months. I figured out I'm able to help quite a lot of people about this device, actually (even though I don't have an astronomic number of posts), and I felt like writing a little guide about common questions about the ZEN Touch 2 could help, why not?
First of all, this is a guide applying to the ZEN Touch 2, I don't know about the ZiiO. Maybe my tricks will work on both devices, but I can't be sure about it.
LAST UPDATED: November 23th 2012.
Q: Why does my ZEN Touch 2 freeze so often?
I've got 2 theories about why these freezes happen so often: I own another Android device, which have a fairly weaker processor than the ZEN Touch 2, and it does not freeze at all. So the ZEN Touch 2 is quite powerful! But even on Android 2.2.1, it's perhaps the installed stock firmware that is unstable. That cause the problem.
Second theory, I believe the ZEN Touch 2 don't have much RAM availible! Around 200-256 MB. What's interesting here, is that my other cellphone does have a weaker processor (600 MHz VS 800 MHz), but it also have more RAM, 512 MB! That could be the reason why the ZEN Touch 2 freeze so often, when the device is basically running out of RAM.
Or it could be both! An unstable firmware installed, and no enough RAM. Who knows?
Q: Okay, but how can I fix this issue?
There's no magic way to make your device running super-fast like any other smartphone, especially if the problem is the lack of RAM, rather than the unstable firmware. The number 1 solution, it's obvious: uninstall APPs. The more APPs are installed, the more RAM they use. The more your device is going to freeze/crashe. Myself, I don't have many APPs installed, only 17 (Some of them being like 500 Ko, or even extensions or themes, that are only 150 Ko). I use my ZEN Touch 2 only for listening to music, and browsing the Internet using Flash Player. It does the job well enough.
What you could also do, is install the APK/APP Fast Reboot Pro. I have it installed, and it free your phone memory everytime you unlock your screen, or press the widget. Extremely usefull. That'll help to prevent the ZEN from freezing, a bit.
Well, even though I have 17 APPs installed, including Fast Reboot Pro, my Touch 2 still crash, rarely. I've been experiencing a serious issue about my ZEN booting loop, for no reason at all! Had to boot in recovery mode, and wipe the data. Which lead me to think the stock firmware can also be the problem for unstability.
Q: How do I install APPs on the ZEN Touch 2 ?
Since the Market is unavailible (I've tried to install it without any success. However, seems like some people managed to install it, most probably with root. I've tried, but cannot get it to work, myself), you'll have to download APK files. You have the choice to download from ZiiO Space, or from any other website. Download an APK file, save it anywhere on your SD Card, then open the built-in APP "Explorer" on the ZEN. Lauch the .APK, install it, and you're done.
Remember to check "Enable unknown sources" on the "Manage Applications" menu!
A fastest method, you could manually download and install "SlideME". I've used it for a while, and it's a Android-Market / Google-Play "Like". It'll work without any problem on the ZEN.
Q: Is the ZEN Touch 2 rootable ?
Yes it is!
First thing first, rooting your device will void your warrantee. I did it, since I live in Canada, and I have no intention of returning the device in California if it break. I am not responsible if you brick your device doing the process, even though nothing wrong should happens. If you don't know what is Root Access, you better not doing this.
I've used the following method. It worked like a charm.
Install the Z4Root APK. Now your Antivirus (Computer maybe, and ZEN Touch 2 antivirus as well, if you have one) will warn you it contain a malware. Z4Root is not a virus! Simply because it perform actions that can be dangerous to your device, that's why you get a warning.
Launch Z4Root, and press the "Root" button (Not temporary). Z4Root will do the rest automaticly! Then your device will reboot, which is normal. Don't do anything during the rooting process, however!
If the rooting worked, you should now see the APP "Superuser" in your APP Drawer.
You still have the option to Un-Root your device - assuming you want to return the ZEN to the store, for example - by launching Z4Root again, and press the button "Un-Root". Simple as that.
Q: Can you install a Custom ROM such as Cyanogenmod ?
I've tried without any success... I was hoping install another firmware would make the device as stable as it should be.
I installed ROM Manager, but when the APP ask you to backup your current bootloader and select your device, the ZEN Touch 2 isn't in the list, so I couldn't perform the backup.
There are more complex ways of installing another ROM, but I haven't tested those. This is becoming quite dangerous.
I requested help on XDA Forums, but haven't got any, sadly.
Q: The GPS doesn't work !
Okay, so I don't know if your device really is defective, but I can tell you about my experience; I always disliked Google Maps APP, since it requires you have a Wi-Fi connection availible to use your GPS. Not pretty helpful when outside.
What I recommend you, is to install the APP Locus (Keep that in mind: the more APPs you install, the more your device will freeze.). Free version is powerful enough. What I like about this magical APP, it allows you to download maps, so that you can view them offline (They are pretty big in size)! Download a few maps, and activate your GPS, it should seek your position.
I believe when people says their GPS doesn't work, it's mainly because the ZEN Touch 2 GPS is really slow to find your position. Really. I first had trouble with this too, and for the GPS do to his things, this can takes up to 15-30 minutes, no kidding. And when the GPS work, it have chances to loose your position randomly.
So yeah, sad to say that, but the GPS on the Touch 2 isn't the best. My position is find instantly on my other 600 MHz smartphone (LG Optimus One).
Q: What is the Recovery Mode, and how do I access it ?
You can access Recovery Mode by holding the HOME button and then turning ON your device at the same time. This menu can be really useful, and even save your device, like it did for me.
Here are the options availible:
- Reboot System Now;
- Apply Sdcard : update.zip;
This is used to update your firmware if you're still on Android 2.1. You could also install Custom ROMs with the filename update.zip that you've put to the root of your internal storage. Highly not recommended to install any Custom ROM, since these ROMs aren't customized for the ZEN Touch 2, simply!
- Wipe Data / Factory Reset;
This delete all of your data on the ZEN, to bring it back to his original state. For some reason, when I used this option, it kept everything that's on my internal storage (Music, Pictures..). GLAD that did. What I've lost, were the APPs I installed, and my Android settings. My APPs were all backed up, so that was no big deal. I wiped the device 3 times, and I can confirm that the data in /mnt/sdcard (The internal storage where you put your music, on USB) isn't deleted. All you have to restore is APPs (If they're backed up, that's fast) and ZEN settings.
Also, be advised that wiping the device does not "unroot" the ZEN - Superuser APP is still there, and the device is still rooted. Notice that if you have uninstalled system APPs (see below), the APPs won't be reinstalled automatically. You'll have to reinstall them manually, if you want them back - hope you have a backup of these APPs!
I had to use this option to stop my ZEN from booting in loop. I thought it wouldn't change anything!
- Wipe Cache Partition;
Wipes the cache partition of the device to clear all the data accumulated there over use.
Thanks to Haroon Q. Raja from AddictiveTips for the info.
Q: Would you qualify the ZEN Touch 2 as a durable unit ?
Well, "on the outside", yes. People (Not me! :P) dropped my ZEN twice, without any consequence (That freaked me out).
Maybe I was lucky, don't know. But durable "on the inside", the firmware and all this stuff, it's a no-no. I should you have more chance that your ZEN will die for no reason because of the firmware, rather than die because you dropped it (Well, just don't drop it in the pool...).
Q: The stock music player suck, I have no control at all !
What I recommend you to install (Personally) :
PlayerPro for the look;
PowerAMP for functionalities. I used PowerAMP, since it sort my music better. I've switched to NRG music player, since PowerAMP became glitchy, for some reason.
Both are shareware, but since there's no access to the Market, you have no choice, but to download illegally. I apologize Creative, for approving the download of APPs, but what else can we do? Simply make the Markey availible, that will sove this issue.
If you plan on getting PowerAMP, get it here, along with the Full Version Patch (You HAVE to be rooted for this to work! Tested, and work in my case):
http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic....fdb7e20fd84c70
1. Unistall your current version of PowerAMP.
2. Install PowerAMP.2.0.4.467 APK (Do not run it!)
3. Install PowerAmpPatcher by ChelpuS APK
4. Start the Patcher, and press the button.
5. Reboot the ZEN, then start PowerAMP. That should do it.
Warning: You will loose all your previous PowerAMP settings, however!
Since the ZEN Touch 2 is not a Google cellphone / has no Android Market, this is the only way to have PowerAMP all the time on your ZEN.
NRG Music Player is pretty decent as well, it can play different formats that PlayerPro can't. Still a shareware, but easy to download and install without hassle.
Q: Which Photo Gallery do you recommend ?
Everyone agree, nothing is worst than the Android stock Gallery, super slow, and doesn't sort your pictures at all! Again, I have 2 recommendations:
Grab Quickpic or Picturen. Both are extremely light (500 Ko), fast and there are a lot of zoom steps, for us ZEN Touch 2 owners without any multi-touch support! You can also hide the useless folders, or add a password to these hidden folders, if you prefer!
JustPictures! is also excellent, as well. Take a bit more space, a bit slower, but the interface is more attractive, and One-Touch zoom is supported. Some functions that are in QuickPic aren't in this APP, but I feel like JustPictures sort my photos better. I can put differents "accounts" or "folders" to sort all my pictures.
Screw the original 3D Gallery!
Q: Any browser I should get ?
That really depend on what you do...
Read this article, from november 2011:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Android-...view-1705.html
Opera Mini is lightning fast, but unfortunately, Flash Player is unsupported on this browser!
Note: Avoid browsing the Internet with a ZEN full of APPs, you'll get in trouble. I did this, and this was a nightmare, freezing all the time, have to reset...
I do this now, but with my 17 APPs installed. It's quite OK, I should say. Especially that I use Flash Player a lot.
Q: Any Home Replacement you recommend ?
I've been using Go Launcher Ex for a while, because it's resonably fast, beautiful and way customizable; ADW Laucher is pretty fast, too. I've now switche to Nemus Launcher - way lighter (The GO Dev Team applications really are getting bloated by useless features, sadly), and still pretty beautiful. Go Launcher Ex is more customizable, but is getting bigger and bigger in size (And RAM, maybe. Not sure.). 8-10 MB or up for an APP? Even for a Home Screen, I hope you're kidding me.
Both APPs allow you to add folders to the APP Drawer ! Excellent!
Q: I want to disable / customize the lockscreen.
Disable the lockscreen: NoLock;
Customize the lockscreen: WidgetLocker.
Q: Does the games play well ?
Yes, pretty good, with the 800 MHz processor of the ZEN Touch 2 !
Comparing it to the 600 MHz processor of my LG Optimus One, there really is a noticeable differece in fluidity. The vast majority of the games doesn't lag on the ZEN Touch 2, that's great.
If you want to try those games emulators (SNES, Genesis...), go ahead, they work decently. Unfortunately, since the Touch 2 doesn't have multitouch, that's a problem, but try to set Left-Right as volume Up-Down to move your caracther, it's pretty playable and fluid enough. The best games are the RPGs, for sure, since multitouch isn't necessary at all.
There are also 3D emulators, such as N64oid or PSX4Droid; these also work, but watch out! At that point, 800 MHz is not enough for these games to be "playable". Super Mario 64, for example, is the most playable game availible for N64oid, and still then, it is really slow (Not that enjoyable, seriously).
You're free to try N64oid or PSX4Droid for fun, but just saying, if you want to freeze your device, this is the way to go.
Super Mario 64 shouldn't freeze instantly your device. However, Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong 64 or Tony Hawks (Tested) freeze your device for sure - you wouldn't even get past the "Press Start" screen. My advice: only try Super Mario 64.
Still then, the ZEN does play games (2D or 3D) smoothly enough!
Q: My ZEN keep booting in loop! What should I do ?
That happened to me once in a while, and this is freaky.
"ZEN Touch 2" screen, "Touch the Sound of Perfection screen" again, and again, and again...
First: wait. Maybe it'll boot
If your launcher still doesn't start, reset button (Inside the SD Card slot, very tiny) is your only choice, of course. Reset, then power it up again. It booted for me all the time, except once.
If that still doesn't work: Recovery Mode, like stated earlier.
Now, here's what could happen if you reset during the boot sequence; I got this extremely annoying problem like 3 times. Hooray, you can get to the launcher!
Now, what can unfortunately happen, is that you get random popup like "SmartKeyboard Pro Force Close", this stuff. You'll keep getting these popups. That mean the vast majority of your 3rd Party APPs are corrupted, and you'll have to uninstall, then install again almost every single APP... This is a serious pain!
Now, don't install again. It is very important that you uninstall first, then reinstall. Otherwise, it won't work. Luckylli enough, your stock APPs will remain intact (Default Music Player, ZiiO Space, Explorer...)
Hope you don't get this problem!
Q: The ZEN freeze at "Touch the Sound of Perfection" screen...
I would suggest you to wait for a while; I guess it's because the ZEN is getting too hot. Reset the device so it can power OFF, and wait for the ZEN to cool down a bit (Do not reload it, unless you don't have the choice to.), and try again later. Also try to connect the ZEN to USB, it'll power ON on it's own, perhaps it'll get to the Home Screen. If it still freeze, too bad: do a factory reset (that should work).
Q: Can I uninstall preinstalled System APPs (ZiiO Space, Audible, Default Browser) ?
Yes, you can! I'll show you the easiest way to do it!
If this isn't appropriated, ask me Creative, I'll remove this question.
First, you HAVE to be rooted, again!
Second: doing this can be seriously dangerous if you delete a APP that is required for the system to work, you could really kill your ZEN! Again, I take no responsability if you kill your ZEN because of this!
Okay then, download the APP SDK Stock APP Removal (Thanks to the developpers!):
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...vTHqe6KdBudQLg
Install it (If you have an antivirus on your ZEN, it'll detect it as dangerous. Ignore it. It's normal, since the APP allow you to delete system APPs, which can be dangerous), run it.
You can now see a list of every single APP installed on your ZEN, including the system APPs. ALWAYS make a backup of the APP when you delete one! The APP itself being extremely easy to use, no need to explain how it works, you'll understand it by yourself, for sure.
Just keep in mind, it is your responsability to verify if it's safe to remove an APP or not! Always check!
I used the APP to remove ZiiO Space, Audible and the default Browser (Without any consequences), since I never use those. Not sure if it's safe to delete the default 3D Gallery.
Mainly because I want to free up the most space as possible on my ZEN to avoid freezing issues, of course!
Q: How can I backup my APPs ?
It's quite easy to do. I've realised backing up my APPs was very important, on the ZEN Touch 2, since you never know when the device is going to freak out, when you'll have to do a reset, and that your APPs get corrupted!
You can of course use Titanium Backup, but I would recommend Smart App Protector / Pro, for his simplicity.
The main purpose of this APP, is to password/pattern-protect your APP (Which does the job perfectly well), but you can also backup (on SD Card, well, ZEN internal storage) and restore your APPs extremely easilly. No root required, here!
This APP completely saved me, when I wiped my device...
Q: What about my contacts ?
In the stock Contacts APP, there's an option to do a full backup of your contacts, on the ZEN internal memory.
If for some reason, you can't find it, download the APP Go Contacts Ex (In my opinion, the best contacts APP availible). This APP also have an option to backup and restore your contacts super easilly.
Q: In some cases, the ZEN Touch 2 isn't loud enough!
Something I would recommend is using a different music player with an equalizer. PowerAMP + PowerAMP patcher should do the job. Open the equalizer and increase the value of the first bar on the left. You'll get a small volume boost. I do use it for some tracks that have the volume REALLY low.
Q: The Agenda / Calendar does not work at all! When I start it, I get the message "You have no calendar" !
Dear calendar... It's always been a pain to set the calendar on the ZEN Touch 2, since it's not a cellphone...
2 recommendations:
First: forget it. I've tried, and seems this is possible to get this to work, but quite uneffective. First, you should download the APP Calengoo, a more than excellent calendar. It'll sync with your Google Calendar, so try using a Gmail account, to get it to work. It seems to have troble with the sync, and it doesn't work all the time.
Haven't done this in a while, this is seriously a pain. I'm using the calendar on my LG smartphone anyways. I won't be able to help that much about this issue.
Second: what you could do instead, is to download the calendar Jorte. It's a standalone agenda, so it does not requires sync to work at all. It'll work without any problem on your ZEN, you don't have to set-up anything.
However, I fairly prefer Calengoo over Jorte, way more powerful.
Q: Where's the reset hole?
Inside the micro SD slot. You can use a lockpipe (recommended) or a linguee mine (less safe).
Q: Is the battery removable?
Unfortunately, no. Unless you manage to open the ZEN in a very specific way, using a knife and a hairdryer to make the glue melt, I've read. You should probably gain access to the battery this way, but I've been completely unable to know the exact battery type (Lithium-Ion, but details), so replacing it would be a real pain. Creative couldn't help me, since they do not encourage self repair; they recommended me to purchase another device if this case happen, which I honnestly find pretty ugly.
Q: The default Android keyboard is not good enough...
The APK "Smart Keyboard Pro" is the answer.
Q: I would like to quickly turn ON WiFi, and ajust screen brightness without going in the Settings all the time.
Grab the APK "Extended Controls".
That's it, hope this guide was helpful!

Originally Posted by agrimstad
This Q&A guide was enormously helpful to me with the zen touch 2, my first android device.
I'm pretty happy with the device--everything pretty much works--but doubt my experience would have been so positive without this guide. I do have some observations as a kind of follow up.
1. I'd recommend staying with Creative's web browser. I tried a couple of alternatives. I tried Opera and Firefox. I thought they were painfully slow. I quickly abandoned them. The default browser seems good enough. That's not really what I got the zen for.
2. I bought PowerAmp. I had issues where it would work for a few days and then fail with licensing issues. Reinstalling fixed matters, then the licensing failure recurred. So I tried ProPlayer. To me, it's better. I like the way it handles folders.
3. I bought Locus Pro. It's pretty good. I like the ability to download a map so you're not tied to the internet. The GPS is slow, but it does work.
4. I did root the device with z4root. For me, the only advantage seems to be that I need to be rooted to get ClockSync to work. Being able to sync the device's clock with NTP is a really professional touch.
5. I use Go Launcher Ex (paid version). One thing to mention is that the default launcher has a Bluetooth widget which doesn't seem to survive the installation of Go Launcher Ex. I installed another Bluetooth widget I found on AndroidPit App Center. By the way, this App Center seems pretty decent, since Google Play isn't supported. (I also use the SlideME Marketplace.)
6. I like the Go Power Manager for monitoring the battery. It has a widget and power usage modes that are quite good.
7. I don't seem to be having lock up problems. (Note that I only use the default browser). I think this may be due to my being really careful about RAM usage. There are a set of things I've done in this area. First, I use StartupManager. (This is a second reason to root the device.) This keeps the things running at start up to the minimum you want. I've also installed FastReboot. I run this from time to time. But there are two other things that I really rely on. One is the Go Task Manager. This lets you monitor RAM usage and kill things to recover RAM. Another thing I use is a widget--I can't remember where it came from--that displays RAM usage on the home panel and a button in the shape of a broom, which, when tapped, recovers RAM. I think this is part of Go Task Manager.
8. It seems obligatory to have a scanner app for all the 2-D bar codes that have sprung up everywhere. I haven't seen any advice about which app is preferred. I'm using Unibet Scanner, which seems to work.
9. Because Google Play isn't supported, I've had to get some things via googling for apks. One finds these in strange quasi legal places and I worry about viruses. I'd be interested in advice regarding a virus scanner.
Thanks again for the guide. -- al
Thank you very much!
1. Maybe you want to try Dolphin Browser Mini / HD, it's pretty powerful. But if you're looking for a lighter web browser, you could give BoatBrowser Mini a shot, if you want to.
2. I've read that PowerAMP cannot activate on a non-Google phone, which I find pretty ridiculous.. I have to patch it with an illegal app, but now I get that strange noise when my music play, and the app is basically dead, unless I reinstall and loose all my settings!
7. That's the right thing to do. If you don't have much APPs installed, that shouldn't lock up.
9. Same here. I've used Lookout Antivirus before, but you wouldn't be able to uninstall it, if you're not rooted. I've then switched to Zoner Antivirus (Free). Less known, but for some reason, I've read it detected more viruses than any other free Android antivirus.
Enjoy the ZEN Touch 2.

Zen Touch, LCD Display not working at all, but player is f

So I'm on the bus, listening to my Zen Touch, it's working fine, the LCD is working fine. Everything is dandy. Few songs later, I pull it out of my pocket, the LCD is blank. But the player is still going. I can change songs, adjust volume, play all randomly etc etc, but I'm working blind, cause there is nothing on the display whatsoever.
It was a dry day, so it wasnt moisture damage or anything. And I didnt drop it, or bang it. It went from working fine, to going in my pocket, to not working. Really strange.
I'm sure its just defecti've, but I leave for a week long vacation in just under an hour (good timing eh? works fine for 8 months and then bam, 6 hours before I leave the country...ugh **bleep** karma), and I'm praying theres a simple fix I'm just missing. I already tried multiple restarts and resets, and I even charged it for a few hours, thinking the battery was just getting weak. But no dice. I doubt anyone can help me, but I figured it's worth at least a shot.Message Edited by myname on 0-24-2005 05:07 AM

If it won't display anything at all, even after a reset, it's likely there is a hardware problem. You could connect the player to the PC and update the firmware, but I suspect it'll be the same after that, unfortunately.
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Zen Touch is fro

I bought my Zen Touch in Sept 05, & built up a modest 900 tracks. Two weeks ago I turned it on, it showed 'now playing' but it had frozen. I could not turn it off. Reset turned it off and back on to its frozen state. I could not access Recovery Mode. Creative suggested letting battery run down, connect to charger and at 3rd attempt I was able to access Recovery Mode. Clean Up did not work. The Organiser prog does not recognise the player when I connect it to the PC so I cannot back up my tracks. Using skip or any other button did nothing. Format All and /or Reload Firmware would lose all content.
What a dreadful state of affairs. I know there are 900 tracks in this little box but Creative has no way of accessing them. This must be the worst product I have ever bought. The Zen Touch should come with a health warning to back up everything but I don't suppose Creative want to say how such a disastrous fault might happen.

I sympathise. To be fair, you wouldn't expect there to be a dead end, no-further-help-available scenario, but the bad news is, that's what appears to be on the cards.
The symptoms you describe are pretty similar to what happened to me. Though, through a huge amount of random retrying, I did get it to restart (I have no idea why it suddenly chose to, but after 6 days, it did, so keep trying!), and I was eventually able to back up my 2000 tracks before trying to solve the problem (it was still freezing).
But when I was finally able to access the recovery mode and do a disk clean up, and then try to reload the firmware (I tried to load all the available firmwares, including the PlayForSure Firmware, which DOES wipe the disk clean), the player wouldn't respond. In fact I'm now in a worse situation, cause I now have a non-responsi've and EMPTY mp3 player (see my thread, probably above).
So, no good news on that front as nobody appears to know the right solution (but thanks to all those who have made suggestions) and I am stuck with a ?70, 4 month-old empty dead turkey. A distinct absence of useful advice from anyone at Creative too, you'll notice.
So, it's not just you, and I'm afraid there are a number of us in a similar state of disappointment.
By another Creative product? Dunno. Who's to say this is not a problem that could happen to any MP3 player? All I know is that I would definitely think twice about it next time, especially when considering the aftersales support.

Is The Zen Touch Sensitive To Moti

I notice that everytime I use the Zen Touch in my car, or when I'm walking the player either locks up, randomly selects tracks, or just don't act right. But when I have it placed in one place, it plays just fine. Is this common with the Zen Touch? If so, is there anything that can be done about it's Thanks.

I only have the lock button engaged when I'm in my car, or walking with the player, while I'm playing audio tracks. I use the pause/play button a lot also. That's when the problem begins.

ZEN TOUCH 20GB - Stuck in Recovery Mode, during Firmware upgrade. HEL

Ooooh dear.
Me and my Zen Touch are completely stuck. Decided to upgrade the Zen's Software and Firmware and am now in deep trouble. Here are the steps I took.
First I sensibly backed up the 2000 songs on the player to my computer. Then I updated the MediaSource software and restarted the computer. Then I decided to go for the big change and downloaded the new PlayForSure firmware installation and that's where the problem starts - It never completed the installation, which I had to manually stop. I knew as part of puting this new Firmware onto the player, the Zen would be wiped clean, which it has. However, I now cannot get it out of recovery mode and it will not respond to attempts to download the new (or any) Firmware onto it.
What I now get is:
-Plug the Zen in, the computer recognises that there is plug and play equipment attached and makes the appropriate noise.
-The Zen will switch itself on as a response (or I can do it manually), with a normal-looking startup. It then briefly flashes a screen saying "Firmware Problem" before going into recovery mode.
-If I choose Clean Up, it takes a few seconds to clean the now empty disk, and returns to the recovery menu
-If I choose Format All, pretty much the same as Clean Up
-If I choose Reload Firmware, it warns me that the firmware will be erased. And asks if it should reload it via USB. You say 'yes' and it briefly flashes up "Start firmware update now" before returning to the recovery mode menu.
And finally, if I select Reboot, that's exactly what it does; the computer recognises that it's turned off, makes the noise, and recognises when it's turned on again.
Trying to download the Firmware from the computer, however, has turned into a nightmare. I've tried downloading the PlayForSure firmware and old Firmware from the files on my computer (running XP, by the way). And I've also tried prompting the Zen starting up the Media Source software, BUT they all claim that the player is NOT connected! Even though it is! The Zen switches on and Windows makes a sound every time I connect or disconnect it!
So what to do? I'm stuck in this vicious circle and no matter what random tricks I try, I can't get out. The player needs Firmware, but the software on the computer claims the player's not connected.
The player is now more than a year old, so I can't return it, and Creative's less-than-generous telephone support is not an option, so I'm left to any imaginati've and kind-hearted subscribers to this list to offer suggestions.
HELP!
Mark in the UK

My son?s Zen simply turned on one morning and refused to do anything except enter recovery mode, giving a firmware problem error and Creative Zen v0.0.58After an hours research I solved the problemI hope this helps someone out, but remember anything you do is your responsibility not mine, continue at your own judgment
Creative site SingaporeDownload driver and firmwarehttp://sg.creative.com/support/downl...ype=0&x=30&y=6
download driverCreative Zen and Jukebox Driver Upgrade version .30.03
firmwareCreative Zen Firmware .00.02
Install driver, connect Zen, should show up in my computerAnd yes, when you open the Zen from there it WILL say not correctly connectedBecause the firmware is corrupted! But it is connected Go to the firmware file and double click, the firmware software will connect to the ZenAnd overwrite the firmware. Follow the on screen instructionsYou may get a warning that the firmware is the same version etc. just do it, as at the moment the Zen is useless. Good luck and if it works repay me by helping someone

Buttons on Zen Touch performing the wrong funct

I've had this problem for a while now on my Zen Touch, where often times when I push the Menu button it acts as if I pressed the Random button instead. At first I though it might have to with the proximity of the buttons to each other, but the other day I hit the Rewind/Back a Track button and it initiated Random mode. Anyone else have this problem or know of any solutions?

I also have the same problem. Is there a fix for this?

Zen Touch... giving up the gho

Hi all, long time no see - board's grown quite a bit since last I was here...!
My 20gig Zen Touch seems to be getting confused in its (relati've...) old age, and often thinks I've pressed the 'random play all' button when in fact I've just pressed 'pause/play'. Needless to say this is kinda annoying. Just wondered if anyone's got any ideas to fix this - I've tried reloading firmware, to no effect.
Cheers
Dave

Yeah, thought as much. Cheers... (must say I kinda like the idea of being able to watch music videos etc anyway, so might well get meself a Vision M )
Guess I might have a go at taking it apart and having a look, tho' unless it's just a dodgy connection - which seems unlikely - doubt there'll be much I can do. Though on the other hand I don't get why the pic (presumably) that decodes which button's been pressed should suddenly start screwing up.
No one else got any ideas?

ZEN TOUCH or Zen Micro? Which is bett

I'm interested in buying one or the other but am unsure which to purchase. I like the fact that Zen Micro has repeat, resume and random play as well as a stand and belt clip. I also like the fact that it has fm radio and comes in lots of colors. But I love the fact that Zen Touch has a larger storage capacity and is already compatible with WMP 0 without having to hopefully download additional software. Which has a better sound capacity? I have quite a bit of songs with a heavy bass from club songs as well as
hip hop/r &b tracks. Also does either player play songs longer than 4 minutes? I have a couple of songs that are about 9 minutes long. I'm looking for one that is the most user friendly and will not be something I'll have to replace anytime soon because I've run out of space. Does anyone know if the the Zrn Touch will be coming out in various colors like the micro? Any insight into a good choice is greatly appreciated.

Many things are taken into consideration between the touch and micro. Here are some.
Touch
- has more hard dri've space
2- Has a dedicated volume button and has a mix of buttons and touchpad(lot of ppl like that)
3- People seem to have a lot of prob with the touch software and touch does not offer EAX options
4- The LCD light could use a fixing.
Micro
- Smaller HD than the touch (5 GB)
2- Comes with a lot of features for its price. (FM, MIC, date and planner, removable disc mode, etc)
3- Better looking and is more compact and smaller, fits almost newhere.
4 - Software is better and is more reliable, plus removable battery.
5 - 0 colors to choose from.
6 - Comes with a few of accesories ( Belt clip, stand, pouch)
Final - I have tried both the touch and micro for 2 months respecti'vely and the micro is better cause of its many features and creative really stepped up and fixed many problems that people were having with the touch so i suggest u go with the ZEN micro

Problems with my Zen Touch

Tracks seem to be jumping a bit so i did a reset and clean up, however after it started rebuilding library, a firmware problem is popping up and i've have no clue how to solve it. Resetting it just brings me right back and I can't get it to the menu for reboot/ format. Please help !

I'm having the same problem with my Zen Touch. When I press Play/Pause, it will sometimes work correctly, other times it acts as if I had pressed Previous. When it does this, it sometimes jumps to the start of the current track, sometimes to a different track. This is the most common problem, but I have also had it act as if I had hit Random. I have tried loading the latest firmware, but this had no effect on the problem. Thanks.

USB 1.1 & Protected WMA on Zen Touch quest

Im thinkin about getting a Zen Touch and i have a couple of questions.
The first im sure i can get an easy yes to, does zen touch support usb .
The second however, is a question that i often find avoided on sites and put in fine print.
Many companies advertise supporting WMA format, but not the <EM>protected</EM> WMA format that music stores such as Musicmatch sell.
My question obviously, is does the Zen Touch player support protected WMA files that i download from Musicmatch?
Thanks
p.s. Does the Zen Touch have a "shuffle" feature like on the iPod that shuffles all the music or just the music on your playlist?Message Edited by JKORCA on 03-08-2005 0:39 PM

'Yes' to all three questions:
USB . compatible - yes.
Can play WMA protected DRM - fairly certain it does, but I've never used it myself - anyone want to confirm?
Shuffle all - yes - there's a button the front labelled 'random' which shuffles all the tracks on the player.

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