Is Dummy Profit Center required in ECC
Hi there,
Just wonder if dummy profit center is required in ECC6 despite the New GL.
However, if I do not activate profit center accounting, table GLPCT will not be updated, the stadard SAP reports for profit center can not be used. How to overcome this?
Thank you,
Hi
You need to create a dummy profit center in new GL also. If you look at the configuration steps under new GL accounting, Master data- Profit center accounting- create dummy PC.
Regards
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Deletion or deactivation of Dummy Profit center in ECC 6.0
Dear Experts,
How do I delete or deactivate dummy pofit center.
Regards,
DavidHI,
Dummy Profit Center is a must with Classic Profit Center Accounting, so no question of deletion/de-activation of Dummy PC.
The dummy profit center is the default profit center to which data is posted when the corresponding object has not been assigned to a profit center. If you have PCA active and any of your posting results in not being able to derive Profit Center, then system posts to this default Profit center called 'Dummy Profit center'.
Learn more on 'Dummy Profit Center' from this link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/eb/13713643c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Go through this link to understand how system determies Profit center for various business transactions
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/91/de886af65011d2b4d7006094b9b0a5/frameset.htm
Hope this helps.
Edited by: Pradeep kumar Athmakur on Feb 16, 2010 1:01 PM -
Automatic Posting accounts are posting to Dummy Profit center....
Hi experts....
We are configured New GL
Generally we are creating Customer Invoice (T. Code: VA02) and
Vendor Invoice (T Code. MIRO) for WBS Element only. While posting the
customer/Vendor Invoice System is not checking that CO Object (WBS
Element) in main line item (Sales/GRIR) as well as Automatic Account
assignment setting (T. code: OKB9). System is showing the Error. If
that G/L Account is not a cost element then system is posting to DUMMY
Profit Center in place profit center assign to that WBS Element
Requirement:
We need to post tax and Customer/Vendor line items in document
against WBS Element which should be picked up from Sales/GRIR Line Item
of the same document. If there is no CO Object (WBS Element/Cost
Center) in Sales/GRIR line item in document then based on Automatic
Account assignment configuration (Valuation Area is Mandatory) system
has to post to Cost Center/Profit Center
We are not maintained any derivation rule of PC & Edit Constants for Nonassigned Processes in New gl config. then also system posting to Dummy PC only.
We can delete that dummy?
or any configuration changes needs for it. plz give me ur valuable suggestions
Please Do needful
Thanks
BhagiradhaHi,
You have to maintain Dummy profit center, it is mandatorily for configuring profit center accounting . If u have not maintain Default profit center to that cost element, it will directly flow to Dummy Profit center. Better to maintain default profit center and u cannot delete the Dummy profit center.
Regards,
Sreekanth -
Hi,
we activated New GL with Segment Balancing. The P&L accounts will get the profit Center from the cost objects. We have defined a default segment in the constant for unassigned process, and we only have zero balancing at the segment, and not the profit center. This is a business requirement.
However, I am not sure how to cover the scenario where there might be no profit center in the cost center master or the material master or any other scenarios. I have tried configuring the default profit center in FAGL3KEH. but when I tested, the document splitting is not working correctly. SAP recommends not using default profit center if document splitting is activated.
I wanted to see if dummy PCTR is an option. I have read in the SAP library, but they do not explain clearly about the dummy PCTR. It says activating dummy PCTR is optional, but do not give a good alternative option. They say we can activate balancing by PCTR, but that is not our requirement. Also, if we assign a default PCTR in the non assigned process, it will apply for the balance sheet accounts as well, which we do not want.
I am not sure what are the other options. Please suggest if there are any other options. Also SAP does not mention if we activate dummy profit center from the New GL side (not through the classic PCA menu path), does it still activate the Classic PCA tables?
Please let me know.
ThanksHi,
As I have already explained, both the default profit center and configuring the default profit center for non assigned processes does not work for us.
The default profit center conflicts with document splitting. SAP recommends not to use default PCTR if we do document splitting.
As far as the constant for non assigned processes goes, we have assigned a default segment here (not a default PCTR), since we are doing only segment balancing (reporting by segment), and also the business wants to be able to pick only the segment for any b/s adjustment postings.
Also, my earlier question has not been answered. Does activating the dummy profit center from GL side still activate the Classic PCA ledger 8A?
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Profit Center Accounting in ECC 5.0
We are on ECC 5.0 and having some issues with profit center accounting. Is there any way that I can tell if Profit Center Accounting has been fully configured? If anyone has any documentation, I would greatly appreciate it.
Here are the problems:
1. We are posting to profit centers during document entry (FB50, FB60, FB70, FB01, F-02, etc.) however, when I go to review the documents, it only shows the accounting document and not a profit center accounting document. This doesn't seem normal. I can confirm that we have a document type set up for PCA, but it doesn't appear to have a number range assigned to it. Would there be any reason why a company wouldn't want to have PCA documents being created? We are running reports out of BW as well....
2. When I try to run typical PCA reports such as
KE5Z Profit Center: Actual Line Items
S_ALR_87009712 Profit Center: Area list plan/act.
S_ALR_87013327 Plan/Actual/Variance: Profit Centers
S_ALR_87013332 Curr.Period,Aggreg.,Year Pl/Act.PrCt
S_ALR_87013340 PrCtr Group: Plan/Actual Comparison
I get the message, "No data found." I have gone to the GLPCA and GLPCT tables and they show 0 entries. Are these transactions considered "old PCA" in ECC 5.0? Are there other PCA reports that may read from new PCA tables or are there new PCA transactions in ECC 5.0?
Thanks for any help or info.Hello Linda,
The transactions are the same between the two versions.
To check if the customizing is ok you could see :
- If you have profit centers created KE53 or KCH6N
- The 1KE1(customizing analysis)give you a profit center resume of your customizing.
- Show if the 0KE5 transaction is completed with the controlling area, dummy profit center, valuation view, control indicator .
- To show if the EC-PCA actual posting is activated, transaction 1KEF
- GB02, number range have to be created.
Regards
Valerie
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Picking Dummy Profit center in GL simulation
Hi,
We are using ECC 6.0 and New GL is activated.
My user has a problem booking outgoing manual payments to vendor customer accounts when there is no invoice. Profit center is obligatory while booking the payment. But even after selecting the proper profit center and simulating the GL , system shows Dummy profit center.
Requesting to help out.
Regards,
makrand1st pass
Vendor A/c Dr
to Bank Clearing Cr.
In this bank clearing will inherit profit center from the vendor you are clearing.
Then you pass
Bank Clearing Dr
To Bank Cr. In this bank will inherit profit center from bank clearing account. Hope in second entry you are posting as well as clearing the bank clearing account.
Also check
SPRO > Financial Accounting > General Ledger Accounting > Business Transaction > Document Splitting > Activate Document Splitting
Make sure that "inheritance" is checked. -
Relation Between Dummy Profit Center and Posting Keys.
Hello Gurus,
It will be a valuable feed back for below mentioned Scenario.
One of our client is on SAP Version 4.7 and New GL is not activated. In COCD one Customer Invoice entry is booked as below.
PK Account Amount Profit Center
01 SURXXX1 100.00 ABCD
50 REVENUE A/c 50.00 ABCD
50 ENT TAX 20.00 ABCD
50 SERVICE TAX 30.00 ABCD
After running t codes 1KEK, F.5D, and KE5T for customer line item system picks same profit center as mentioned in other line items i.e ABCD.
But when we reverse the above document system picks DUMMY Profit center instead of ABCD.
PK Account Amount Profit Center
12 SURXXX1 100.00 DUMMY
40 REVENUE A/c 50.00 ABCD
40 ENT TAX 20.00 ABCD
40 SERVICE TAX 30.00 ABCD
Basically we have checked field status variant for Posting Key 01 and 12 in which Profit Center field is Required and field status for profit center for reconciliation account is also required. This is unusual behavior which we are facing right now.
Regards,
Ajinkya AhireProfit Center :
A profit center is a management-oriented organizational unit used for internal controlling purposes. Dividing your company up into profit centers allows you to analyze areas of responsibility and to delegate responsibility to decentralized units, thus treating them as "companies within the company". EC-PCA lets you set up your profit centers according to product (product lines, divisions), geographical areas (regions, offices or production sites) or function (production, sales).
Profit Center Accounting (PCA) allows you to calculate internal measurements of profitability. This internal view of profitability, then, reflects the success of a given profit center at meeting the profitability goal for which it was given responsibility.
Cost Center :
The cost center is an organizational unit in a controlling area. Cost centers can be defined according to several different design approaches. A typical approach could be for an enterprise to define a cost center for each low-level organizational unit that has responsibility for managing costs. As costs are incurred, they are assigned or posted to the appropriate cost center. These costs could include payroll costs, rent and utility costs, or any other costs assignable to a given cost center.
Each cost center is assigned to a category, e.g. Administration cost center, production cost center, etc. Each cost center master record has a field for the name of the person responsible for the cost center.
For detailed information go thru the below article
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPFI/BasicConceptsof+Controlling
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Srinath. -
Dummy Profit Center in Accumulated Dep.
Hi All
In my companies we still have 4.7 version of sap with report based on profit center accounting. Now we are facing problem that when we run the depreciation system transfer the Accumulated Depreciation to Dummy profit center rather in the profit center which is assigned to cost center.
Can some one tell us what can be the reason of it.
Regards ...Deepak,
You will have to define which profit centre the Accumulated Depreciation should be posted to in 3KEH
These threads explain ti well ...
Dummy Profit center & 3KEH table - Document splitting in ECC 6.0
3KEH
This should help.
Rgds
Zubin -
Transaction code: 9KE0 - Posting with Dummy profit center
Hi All,
We have an issue with transation 9KE0, While posting any adjustment entries with single line item, system automaticaly creating second line item few times. We were unable to find the reason why it is creating second line for few documents?
Our requirement is that those entries should have only one line item in transaction 9KE0. Most of the cases we were able to post the document with single line item.
We are using almost 100 co.codes for our client.
For ex: if we post one entry in co.code 1000 through transaction 9KE0 with single item, system posting with one lineitem.
But some times for the same co.code with same parameters if we post one line item, second line item automatically creating with dummy profit center while posting.
Please let us know why the system is creating two line items.
Awaiting for your replies.
Thanks in Advance
Prasad
Edited by: prasad naga on Feb 22, 2011 2:53 PMHi,
We have further analyzed this issue and found that, whenever the amount in field(KSL -Amount in profit center local currency) is ZERO, System it is creating second line item with dummy profit center.
ex:1
proft cenert account amount in co.code cur amount in profit center local currency
9999 100000 - 0.13 00
dummy 100010 0.13 00
ex:2
proft cenert account amount in co.code cur amount in profit center local currency
9999 100000 - 3.13 1
we have verified the values in GLPCA table also... whenever the tech field KSL-Amount in profit center local currency is zero system creating two line items.
Please suggest us is there a solution to stop the second line item even the amount in profit center local currency field (Tech name -KSL) is Zero
Awaiting for your suggestions.
Thanks in advance
Prasad -
Accumulated Depreciation Posted to Dummy Profit Center
HI,
At the time of Depreciation Posting Accumulated Depreciarion is posting to dummy profit center.
We areworking on ECC 6 , EHP4 with document splitting activate.
Please help to solve the isssue.
Regards,
Pravin JoshiHi Pravin,
Go to Transaction code ACSET, and against KOSTL, in Transaction Type field assign * and in Account Assignment Type enter "Depreciation Run" and tick the check box Acct Assignment at the end.
This will not post to Dummy profit Center.
Regards,
SAPFICO
Edited by: SAPFICO on Mar 7, 2011 4:37 PM -
We have one controlling area and multiple company codes. The requirement is to have 1 dummy profit center per company code. Is that possible? The reason being, currently all company codes are trying to post in one dummy profit center and it becomes hard to reconcile that dummy profit center. Is there a way to restrict company codes in dummy profit center or have multiple dummy profit centers?
Hi,
You cannot assign another dummy profit center to controlling area. You can replace the dummy profit center, if the original dummy profit center doesn't have any posting,since that would lead to inconsistencies.
Regards,
Dinabandhu. -
Hello All,
I have this issue. there are 2 dummy default profit centers accumulating amounts over several different accounts (profit center 1 and 2). when i looked into the system only one profit center 1 is marked as Dummy profit center. when i run T.code 2kee, it shows the values in accounts at the 2 dummy profit centers. i want the correct profit center and the costs should be assigned to profit center 3.
I looked into into the 3keh, and it seems like the gl account are mapped to the dummy profit center 1.
but when i look at the "assign default profit centers to accounts" the same Gl accounts are mapped to the correct profit center 3...i dont know why its taking profit center 1 rather than profit center 3.
any suggestions?
thanksYou need to get to the root cause. Which tcode is being processed that is going to dummy? For example if it is a material document then the material is not set up with a profit center. Also, make sure that in the GL field status that profit center is required for the GL entries ( except some auto post accounts) . You could do validations to require valid profit centers as well. You can also do a substituion and force in what you want. You can only have one DUMMY profit center in PCA. So I am not sure what you mean by two pcrt 1 and pctr 2. To correct this go to 9KE0 - Enter and make an entry to dr/cr dummy and dr/cr pctr 3.
pls assign points to say thanks. -
Postings made to a Dummy profit center
Hi,
When checking the 1KEK list (Transfer Payables & Receivables to PCS), we noticed that many postings were made on the Dummy profit center.
This happened when the Special G/L indicator was used (E.g. for doubtful customers, for transfer to a Factoring company).
Where can I make the settings for picking up the profit center automatically?
Thank you.
Kind regards,
LindaHai Linda,
Posting to dummy profit center happens only when you have not assigned the profit center details in cost center. Hence, first check the cost centers for which profit center has not been assigned using Tcode 1KE4. Here go to Assignment Monitor > Cost centers > Non assigned. For the cost centers displayed provide the profit center details wherever required.
To do this ks02 and state the profit center details under "Basic data". this setting will ensure flow of info from cost center to the respective profit centers.
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Prevent documets getting posted to DUMMY profit center for
Hi All,
During posting of accounting documents (for eg: In T-code F-02), we need to prevent documents getting posted to dummy profit-centers when I post documents with cost-centers which are un-assigned to any profit center (T-Code KS02). Instead we need to bring in to the profit-center posted by the user. We have PCA activated.
We have tried to achieve with a substitution along with an user-exit (T-code: GGB1). But the user-exit is getting invoked only after the assignment of Dummy profit-center and is overwriting my profit center. Is this approach right? FYI, the substitution is done at the Financial Accounting/ Line-item level.
Kindly enlighten me with your solutions.
Thanks and Regards,
Gnanasambanthan.VAt my company, we have profit center as a required field on the cost center master - so when posting to a cost center, there is always a profit center.
However, if requiring a profit center on the cost center master is not an option in your case, then I'm wondering if it would work to set up a validation to check that the profit center on a posting is not the dummy.
Regards,
Shannon -
Entries posting to dummy profit center
Hi
while doing MR21 entries is going to dummy profit center in revaluation gain or loss GL A/C instead of respective profit center of material.
For this weather we need to check / new configuration or new configuration required.
Please help.
ThanksDear Amita,
MR21 is only posted on company code level. To derive the profit center from the material master it would be necessary to know the plant but the plant is not available during MR21 posting. The system cannot break down the profit center information knowing only the company code. In that case this is the reason why the dummy profit center is used for price difference postings.
But you can try to use the FI substitution to change the profit center. Based on the information you can create an exit to determine the profit center from the material master.
Another option is the user exit in PCA (Exit_SAPLPCRW_001
- please read the documentation about this function module in the
system). Using this exit it will be possible to make changes in the
PCA postings. This will only change the PCA document and the postings made in FI will not be affected by this exit.
Cheers,
Daniela
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