Is Firewire Netboot possible?

I've got several Netboot server systems (10.5 and 10.6), and would like to offer Netboot across fw0 (firewire port) for various unrelated reasons.
The Firewire port is set to properly use a coherent IP #, it is on same subnet, it is enabled on Netboot (and I've got a good netboot image which is currently in use across other NICs), but I can't seem to target it for booting.
I've tried this on both Intel and Motorola systems, but neither is able to target it for boot OR see it in the "Startup Disk" PrefPanel.
In tracking it on logs, I have seen DHCP Discovery in action via a particular system's MAC address, but the system (server) never responded or never handed out an IP.
Does the pixiboot sequence toss out a request that is flipped off in OSX Server? Is this simply NOT possible?
I've found several threads questioning this, none actually answered, and all 'locked'. From other locked threads, it would seem that this may be a taboo topic, or is it just a great unknown??

Hi
PXE Boot is not used on the platform. NetBoot uses BSDP, DHCP & TFTP.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/SystemImagev10.6.pdf
Page 45 - "Ethernet Support on Client Computers"
You may want to read these as well?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BootService_DiscoveryProtocol
http://www.afp548.com/netboot/mactips/bootpd.html
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4187?viewlocale=en_US
Tony

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I actually have two questions. We have a foreign exchange student from Vietnam. He wants to buy an iPod. Our computers here at home include a G4 w/ 800 Mhz dual processors and an iMac G3 500 MHz. Both have USB 1 and FW 400. In the specs for the 5th generation iPods, it mentions only USB 2. Is this iPod also able to connect with FireWire? If yes, that problem is solved.
If no, is it possible to add USB 2 to the G4 dual-processor Mac? I'm guessing it is probably not possible to upgrade the little iMac to USB 2.
Our student will return home to Vietnam next summer. If he gets a Mac-formatted iPod, will it be possible to reformat it to Windows before he goes home so he can use it at home? (If not, our solution might be for us to buy the Mac-formatted iPod from him for ourselves and for him to then buy a PC-formatted iPod to take home with him.
We have no experience with iPods yet, and would like to find out about these issues before we take our student iPod shopping.
Thanks,
Linda

I did solve the problem -- bought a 5-port CompUSA brand USB 2 PCI card and a Belkin hub. It took 5 minutes or less to install the PCI card and software drivers. It worked perfectly first rattle out of the box.
I checked around for a combination USB 2 and Firewire 800 PCI card, but didn't find one available. There was a USB 2/Firewire 400 card, but my computer has FW 400 built-in. I wouldn't actually need or use FW 800 right now, but thought that as long as I was doing the USB 2 upgrade, I might as well do the other if such a card were available.
Otherwise, all if just fine now, and Khoa is happily learning the ins and outs of using his lovely new iPod.
Linda

Ipod update freeze, firewire problem, possible fix for many.

Hello all,
I've been having a problem with my ipod 3rd gen updating in much the same way as many in this forum have throughout a number of topic threads.
PROBLEM:
During song/playlist/content (not software update or restore) updating function one of two things would happen:
- update would freeze at some point of the transfer (5, 74, 687 songs in to the update) and I would have to force quite itunes and, not being able to dismount the ipod through recommended procedure, I would physically dismount the ipod and receive a scolding for improper dismounting of device.
- system would crash at some point of the transfer yielding the shaded screen and a prompt to restart the computer by depressing the front panel button for two seconds.
In each of the above cases, no matter how many songs that itunes thought it had transferred, I would only have about a dozen songs on the ipod itself, perhaps indicating a bottleneck on the G4 end of the transfer.
DEADENDS FOR ME THAT MAY STILL SOLVE PROBLEM FOR SOME:
- swaping out cables
- ipod software restore or restore to earlier version
SOLUTION:
After contacting Apple support, I was led to the opinion that the problem was with the firewire port itself. This was confirmed by attaching my ipod with my cable to a roomates G5 resulting in a faultless transfer of his song library. I was ready to go out and purchase a new firewire PCI card but decided to research firewire problems in the G4 folder of Discussions. This is where I found the fix to my problem (see links at bottom of document). It would seem that Mac ports, both firewire and USB, have a tendency to bog down after awhile and need to be reset. This can be a addressed by one of three possible solutions. The first and easiest was the solution that worked for me (for other solutions please follow links at bottom of page):
- powered down and disconnected all firewire and USB cables from the G4
- disconnected power cable from G4 (for laptops I would guess that the battery would need to be removed, not sure if that causes any other problems though, please research)and let sit for about 30 minutes.
- reconnected all cables and restarted computer. Ports should be reset at that point
- I took the added measure to restart my computer once with nothing attached to USB and firewire ports and then powering down with front panel button before connecting cables and proceding with final restart.
RESULT:
Faultless transfer of 37.6 gigs of content in less that 45 minutes.
LINKS:
http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?128@@.68bb1cb3
Dale Weisshaar, "Security Update killed my firewire ports" #1, 08:28pm Sep 27, 2005 CDT
Good Luck
GKE

This worked perfectly for me!!!
SOMEBODY PLEASE TAG THIS POST!!!
i have had the problem that everyone has posted about (i.e. - updated iTunes/iPod software and had the update/freeze problem, tried all solutions, to no avail, and was pretty much screwed.)
JUST DO EXACTLY WHAT HE SAYS TO DO (powermac g5, by the way):
1) power down the computer
2) unplug EVERYTHING (usb, firewire, power, monitor, etc.)
3) leave unplugged for 30 minutes
4) plug power back in
5) power up from main power button
6) wait for computer to start back up, then shut down from power button
7) plug everything back in and power up
8) restart once more for good measure
9) update your ipod
10) take a sigh of relief!
you are seriously a godsend...only one thing...I BOUGHT A NEW ONE ALREADY!!! i literally bought it the day that you posted this solution. After a month and a half of trying to fix this problem, i finally gave up and bought a 20GB iPod Photo with applecare...cost me about $380.
no matter, i think i'm gonna sell my "older" ipod to my mom or dad. they'll use it doing whatever they do. plus, that way, if there's any problem, i can fix it for them without feeling bad about screwing over some stranger.
thanks again, this solution worked perfectly.

Booting from external Firewire drive--possible?

If I add a USB/Firewire card to my Beige G3 minitower (300MHz), can I then boot from an external Firewire hard drive on which I have installed Panther? A comment by Tina Garfield in another thread seems to suggest this is indeed possible. (I didn't want to "threadjack" that discussion, so I created this new one. I hope Tina sees it and can help me.)
Tina wrote the following:
Having Firewire allows you to have external drives,
which you will be able to boot from, and make
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I was under the impression that the Beige G3 can't see iadd-on Firewire/USB cards until the machine has booted from the internal hard drive. I really hope I am wrong! If it is indeed possible to have the machine recognize the external drive at startup, and there is something I need to do to enable this, please let me know.
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Hi GeeKay,
Ditto to everything Grant posted, with an extra reminder to be sure to download XPostFacto 3.1 and not version 4. I believe on the XPF page ( http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm?page=XPostFacto3.ht ml ), the download for 3.1 is a little bit down the page.
If/when you buy an external FW drive be sure it has an Oxford chipset. If the description does not include mention of the the Oxford chipset, I would strongly recommend finding another external drive that does specify this. Our Beiges are very particular about what they will accept for external booting, and the Oxford chipset is a critical component.
Also, I've found, since I do partition my external firewire drives, that I can boot only from the first partition of the external drive, similar to the behavior of our internal drives. In addition, with one of my Beiges, my "helper" disk that I specify to XPostFacto to allow me to boot externally must be the first partition of my internal drive.
I don't believe that you can actually INSTALL to an external drive. I simply cloned my internal drive's system over to the FW drive. This can be done with software such as the free Silverkeeper ( http://www.lacie.com/silverkeeper/ ) or with shareware SuperDuper ( http://www.shirt-pocket.com/ ) which are both great for all backups. I happen to prefer SuperDuper because of its redundancy -- it explains EVERY step before you take it and then, even after you tell it to go ahead, it asks you again to be sure That's what you want to do.
Once set up, however, it is extremely cool, and helpful, to be able to boot externally. If your external drive is dual USB/FW, you will only be able to boot when connected via Firewire. None of the Beiges are USB-bootable.
Hope this helps, and keep us posted,
Tina

Is firewire connection possible

my 80 gig Classic came with a USB connection. My "Classic Classic" {2003} used a Firewire connection.
Problem:
The "new classic" would not mount using firewire. Is this "the way it is"?
UBS is fine if you can wait overnight. I mean it's only 25 gig and it's gonna take a while.
Is there a way have either an eMac or an iMAC DC see it thru Firewire?
Oh yeah: I downloaded the manual. Firewire shows up in the back under ..."Firewire is a copyright...."
Running the latest iPod firmware and the latest iTunes.
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wbajr

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with the new Nano?

Unfortunately that article seems to be iffy as far as how much we can depend on it to be correct.
For example, the chart only shows "Classic" and does not differentiate between the older 80/160 models and the new 120GB model. The chart states iTunes 7.6 with the Classic. However if you go to the user manual for the new 120GB Classic, it states iTunes 8.0. Which is it?
In addition, both the new Classic and new Nano user guides make reference to USB1.1 being slow, implying it may work. The chart, on the other hand, claims it won't work at all (not even a #2 check indicating OK but USB2 recommended). Again, which is it?
And there are some models listed on there that I am fairly sure will charge off Firewire but are listed as not chargeable on Firewire.
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Now for the past couple of days my external firewire hard drives have been acting up....
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2. I've noticed that in "disk utility" the external FW drives are not always in the same order...weird to me.
3. I ran TTP4 and the FW port reported NO problems.
I was told that sometimes the FW Bus can screw up, and to remove all the FW devices and restart (have not tried that yet).
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I'm thinking of upgrading from my 3G iPod to a new 5G version. Is the 3G dock (with FireWire connection) compatible with the new iPod, or is a new dock necessary? Is there no FireWire connection possible on the new 5G iPod? Thanks!

Apple do not ship docks with new iPods anymore. because they are only making one type of dock now. instead they are selling adaptors.
Also firewire is no longer compatable to transfur files from your PC / Mac to your iPod but you can still charge with the firewire cable you got with your 3G.
what im going to do when i get mine is charge using firewire into a plug socket in the wall. and keep the USB 2.0 cable attached to my computer so there will be no more diving behind my computer to update my pod all i'll have to do is switch cables

Install Tiger over Firewire?

My friend's iBook has just fried itself. He can't reinstall Mac OS X Tiger either. He gets a blank blue screen with a cursor when he starts up the iBook normally and when he puts in the Install discs.
I was thinking if its possible for him to connect his iBook to mine through Firewire and possibly if I could retrieve his files and do a reinstall of Tiger for him through Firewire?
Is this viable?

Providing your friend's hard drive is not damaged this will be possible.
With both machines off connect a 6-pin firewire cable between the two machines.
Start your machine as normal and allow it to complete booting.
Hold down the T key on the second machine and power it on - you should now see moving FireWire symbols on the display and the hard drive should mount on your machine.
Copy any files you want from the second machine to yours, put the X installer disk in your machine and follow the on screen prompts.
Make sure you select the second Mac's hard drive for installation - it will default to yours. You could archive or erase and install but you should be able to clear the fault simply by installing over the top.
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Firewire device hookup

How do you hook up a n external firewire drive to a new Mac air ?

Within a month or so, you should be able to use the Thunderbolt port in concert with an adapter from Sonnet or a dock from Belkin that will make use of Firewire 800 possible on the MBA. As of this moment, all you have available is the expensive Thunderbolt Display that has a built-in dock to adapt Thunderbolt to Firewire.

External iSight no longer recognized, built-in iSight works - how to fix?

I have a new MacBook Pro with Leopard and both the built-in iSight and my external iSight were recognized and I could switch between them. This past week or so my external iSight became no longer recognized even after unplugging and re-plugging in. When I plug it into the Firewire port, the green light goes on and it makes a whirring sound, but my computer does not recognize it in iChat, in PhotoBooth, nor in iMovie. I repaired permissions and it still doesn't get recognized in any applications. Is there a setting someplace that needs resetting? Or do I need to bring it into the Apple store for technical help?
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Hello Richard
I wonder how many others have this problem?
A search or look through iSight Discussions will show you that a few of the many users of external iSight have reported problems using their Firewire iSights with MacBook Pro. I will leave it to you to try to determine whether that might be because few external iSight users have problems, few have MacBook Pros, or few use their external iSights with their MacBook Pros.
I agree that the system should allow both to co-exist.
Any other suggestions before I go to the Apple Genius folks?
If you have already considered all the suggestions about cables, connections, Firewire ports, possible conflicts, and the relevant suggestions in Apple's How to Troubleshoot iSight without success, you can also try the following:
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• Finish with another Permissions Repair, and then check your iSight again.
Users have reported fixes to a variety of audio, video, connectivity, and software conflicts and unreliability issues after properly applying Combo Updates.
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I can't suggest any remedy for your optical drive not reading audio CDs but having no trouble with data CDs, except to say it's apparently a software problem, not hardware-based.
After replacing your hard drive, did you reinstall your operating system from scratch on it, or did you restore your OS from a backup you had made?
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If you've been able to connect both drives to the Powerbook at the same time in the past, and both have mounted OK, then there's been some hardware change recently, other than your hard drive replacement, that has caused the loss of external drive detection. Is it possible that during your recent operations you've turned off one or both of the external drives, or disconnected it/them from the Powerbook, without dismounting it from the desktop first? Depending on what, if anything, the drive was doing at the time, that can make a FireWire drive unmountable and all the data on it inaccessible. In that case it may be necessary to erase and reformat the drive. I don't know whether the same is true of USB drives.
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hi i just bought the macbook pro and i wanted to know how i can transfer all my music on itunes from my old desktop to my new macbook?

Derek's right. To explain his second point more, you can mount your old Mac's hard drive on your new one and once you've done this you can simply drag your music folder over.
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