Is Heat an issue on the new MBP's?

I have the first generation MBP's and my laptop gets ridiculously hot (120 degrees+)
Has anyone experienced excess heat issues on the new 2.2 and 2.4's that just came out?
Anything else that I should be concerned about?
Thanks

Due to some display issues on my old MBP 2.33 they just upgraded mine(I bought it within the 14 day return period) to the new LED 2.4ghz. This one runs substantially cooler and the fans do not come on nearly as much. An example: Usually when I play any HD videos on the 2.33 the fans would kick it in to high gear until the video was finished...now they didn't even come on. Also the display is great...apple might be down playing the new LED's but put it this way I am never going back to fluorescent.

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Any Bootcamp issues with the new MBP? What about right clicking?

Tried out the new MBP at the Apple store... was wondering how Bootcamp would work with it. I use Bootcamp all the time for work so I'm interested to here the pro's and con's for the new models. Seems like the new trackpad clicking would be cause issues with the "two-finger click" in Bootcamp.

Right clicking issues galore!
(at least in the windows side of things...)
The 64bit windows worked fine....
The 32bit windows had many issues, even after 2 attempts. (via boot camp)
The main issue: the functions keys are locked on. Normally, I would hold down "fn" and push "f10" to mute but that doesn't work. All I have to do is hit "f10" and its muted. That is all good until I have to right-click using the "shift+f10" method since the bottom-right-of-trackpad and two-finger-clicking doesn't work whatsover. The "shift+f10" method won't work now since the fn keys are locked on. We have NO IDEA what the problem is. Could it be a driver issue...though it works fine with x64bit and OS X side of things.
Oh, and mac doesn't give support if one installs Vista and Microsoft won't give support since it isn't on a 'native' pc, so we are screwed. They have both protected themselves and blamed it on the other and the customer is left out to dry.

The verdict on the new MBP

OK, so let's hear it. What's the verdict on the new MBP from those who have it? Thumbs up or thumbs down? Some here have highlighted some issues - speed, display, heat, etc. But maybe we are only hearing from the discontented. I am contemplating buying one and would love to hear the verdict from those who have been pounding on it for a week or two. Thumbs up or down? Should I get one or no?
Thx

I had the previous version (2.33, 2GB, 120Gb HD) and I prefer it to the new 2.4 model. I sold my 2.33 as I got it all scratched up 4 days after I bought it. Sold it for $1900 and bought the new one under the student discount w/free ipod to minimize my loss (selling Ipod)
Anyway, wish I would of kept the old 2.33 as the display was brighter, sharper, and 100% even in brightness. The new 2.4 has a yellow tinge on the bottom of the display, is "softer" and the colors seem less vibrant.
Also, it seems a little SLOWER opening apps than my 2.33 did. Battery life on my 2.33 averaged 4 hours. The new 2.4 averages 3:45-4 hours. No improvement.
Video encoding speed is oh so slightly faster with the 2.4, but not really noticable. My 2.33 was 100% perfect. Perfect display, super fast performance, and even ran cool (2.4 does as well)
I guess if the display on the new 2.4 were better I would be thrilled, but its not. Also seems to have a problem with the finder as downloaded icons disappear.
Very odd.
Anyway, I may exchange this one and try to get a display without the yellow tinge, or I may just keep this for a year or so and upgrade later.
Overall, its a killer notebook, but at $2700 (after tax) a bit steep to have imperfections (like a bad display)
If I could do it all over again, I would of kept the scratched up 2.33. Oh well.

My take on the new MBP

Hi all,
I thought I would give you guys and gals my opinion on the new MBP.
Firstly let me explain that I bought my MBP to replace my old PB G4 17" 1.67Ghz model, so as you can probably imagine it's a fairly big upgrade for me.
I have also been using Apple stuff for 20 years and have spent a small fortune on their products.
I am a web designer and a photographer, an amateur photographer I hasten to add!
The main software I use on my machines are Flash, Photoshop, Aperture, Dreamweaver, Final Cut etc. Without these I am lost.
Okay down to the nitty gritty, I have been reading forums all over the net and heard a lot of people moaning about these new machines, I do appreciate it may not be to some people's liking for whatever reason but please note this is just my opinion on the new MBP's.
I have the 2.4Ghz version with no RAM upgrade as yet.
My first opinion when getting it out of the box was 'Wow', these machines really do look nice, the colour of course is the same as old and it's difficult to explain why they look so nice, maybe it's because they are thinner, maybe it's because they are moulded, I really don't know but I do know that with most Apple products you cannot appreciate them until you've seen them in the flesh.
Opening the lid, well this was a revelation it looks absolutely stunning, simple, elegant and the screen (I know what most people think) is absolutely superb. Let me talk about the screen a little, now I know why there are different complaints about this and it generally boils down to calibration issues for pro photographers and people who need to print professionally. I of course had the matte screen on my 17" PB and can tell you now that it really used to annoy me when I was outside as I could not see the thing at all. On many occasions I wanted to sit out in the garden during the summer and do some work but was unable to. I have a computer upstairs in my office and use my MBP downstairs in the living room, this allows me to carry on doing work and still chat with my girlfriend downstairs. One of the major problems I do have is that the sun (especially in the winter months when it's much lower) shines directly through the window and beams nicely onto my MBP. With my PB I used to have to close the blind (much to my girlfriends annoyance) otherwise it was impossible to work with but with my new machine I can see the screen perfectly without closing it. In fact I am sitting in that very position now with the sunlight beaming through and it's no problem. I'm not going to say there is no reflection at all but it's hardly noticeable and I can definitely say with hand held on my heart that the screen is fantastic whether you are in direct sunlight or night. My girlfriend has the MB (the previous model) and she has a glossy screen, I'm not sure what Apple have done but the glossy screens on these new ones are much better.
The Keyboard.
I know some people don't like the chicklet keyboard but I have no problems with them. I actually prefer them to the older style but I guess that's personal preference. The backlight is absolutely fantastic, it's one of my favourite things on this machine. My old PB had a backlight keyboard but due to the silver keys and white lettering it was near on impossible to see at certain angles, even when looking at it directly it was nothing to write home about. The new backlight on the MBP is just fantastic, I can't say enough good things about it, you have to see it for yourself.
Trackpad.
Mmmmm, really love the look and the size, it makes other trackpads look totally archaic. However I'm not too sure about the whole clicking thing. I am not having problems that others have mentioned about the click not registering or taking time to register. To me the click works as well and as efficiently as a standard button but it is harder to press down and noisier. Apple mentioned that they spent many many hours just getting the click sound right but I think they could have done much better with this. It's the only thing on the machine I am not totally convinced about and could definitely be improved but it's certainly not a deal breaker.
Battery Life
Seems okay at the moment, I probably get around 3 hours with it but as with most Apple products this improves over time.
General Use.
I have had it since launch and am over the moon with it. The speed is fantastic and it does exactly what it sets out to do. Whatever anyone says (and yes it is expensive) this IS (in my opinion) a brilliant piece of kit. It's fast, it's responsive and it looks fantastic. You would be hard pushed to find a better laptop on the market but of course you'll have to pay the price.
I urge you all before passing comment on these new MBP's to go and check one out and see for yourself how good they really are. I know there's nothing like testing one at home when doing your own work but I'm sure that you will be surprised at just how good these machines are and that some of the comments you may have thought originally will soon be forgotten.

Sweet! I cannot wait for mine to arrive this week. i actually went
to the apple store to check it out i can not wait for its arrival. i was very impressed
Im going from a 1.25ghz PB with only 512mb ram to the new MBP with 4gb
of ram. Talk about a major upgrade (yes!!) As a fellow web/multimedia designer
I know I will benefit from this upgrade. I really hope to be more productive
with having dreamweaver,photoshop,flash etc all open at once. A sImple RAM upgrade
could have solve some of my problems wIth my current PB...but this new machine is just
beautiful and durable and will really help me work easier. My current PB will be my side project and back up for now. 5 years I've waited to upgrade........ and glad i did.

Bluetooth Audio Streaming Bug on the new MBP with Retina Display?

Hi,
today i got my new MacBook Pro with Retina Display. I am using Monsters Clarity HD Model One as speakers for my computer and have the new Bluetooth-Module called "Streamcast". This Module is APT-X and AAC compatible and has a really great quality. Normally...
But with the new MBP i can only stream the Audio via SBT (AD2P) what is a much worse quality. On my old MacBook Pro 13" AAC and APT-X was working very well.
Is that already a known issue? What can i do in this case?
Thanks a lot,
Rene

so return it for another one if its within the 14 day return policy. If not, bring it in for repair.

Question on the new MBP

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I currently have a two year old PBG4 and have been having problems with it getting extremely hot. Do the new MBP or MB get hot?
Thanks,
-Dan

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Does the new MBP with gt 750m get too hot while gaming?

I am planning to buy the new MBP with gt 750m and upgrade the cpu to intel i7-4960hq (2.6 GHz, 3.8 GHz max) but I am really confused. I am not going to use it for hardcore gaming but I will occasionally play Dota 2 and Civ 5. Additionally I will be using SolidWorks. I really want to know if it is capable of running these games/programs without generating too much heat because heat is a total dealbreaker for me.
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I've had the original MBP, the 2.33 C2D, the 2.4 C2D, and just got a 2.5 C2D. I'm amazed at how much cooler the new ones run. Even doing the extended hardware test on AC power the fans never got over 3500rpm (the earlier machines would have been blasting at maximum rpm). I can run things at 100% processor tasks using both cores and still keep it on my lap. I'm just amazed at how much this hasn't been commented on. To me this is the big improvement in the new processors, the heat is now finally tolerable in an Intel based Mac laptop.

Does the new MBP run hot?

I'm looking to buy the new MBP 15". Does anyone know if it runs hot? My current white polycarbonate first generation Intel Macbook always runs ridiculously hot.
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9400M: Very cool during general use (web browsing/email/etc...) Warm during gaming (WoW).
9600M GT: Warm during general use. Hot during gaming. VERY hot in Windows, gaming or not.
Of note, Windows only sees the 9600M GT, and gets uncomfortably hot (to the point I'm not only uncomfortable using it on my lap, but feel like I ought to be pointing a fan at the bottom-left (where the GPU is located).
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Issue with the new COPA field added into the BBSEG Structure

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I have an issue with the new COPA field added into the BBSEG Structure.
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vsr

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HT203167 I bought two audio books on iTunes but they will not play. My old books play without issue but the new ones do not.

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Did you copy your actual iTunes content from your computer before reinstalling iTunes, or did you just copy your iTunes library which only contains the pointers to your songs / books locations ?
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Or copy them from your backup of your downloads/library and add them to your iTunes library via File > Add To Library

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In my previous itunes, when i would download an app to my iPod over wifi and then connect it to my PC, iTunes would automatically sync and maintain a copy of the app in my PC. My iPod and the PC would be in sync.
But now after I've downloaded this latest iTunes, I downloaded an app to my iPod and when I tried to sync with the PC, the app no longer got copied to my PC. I've tried syncing many times. Its there on my iPod but never gets copied to the PC during sync. Why is is this happening?
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Is anyone having volume issues with the new Iphone 4S?

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Do you find that connecting to a Bluetooth keyboard creates issues w/ the new iPad's performance?

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Bought the new MBP today, but don't know what to do now! Imperfect machine

Ok. I ran down to my campus computer store today and bought a base model MacBook Pro. Then, I returned home with lots of excitement. But after I opened up the laptop, all my excitement disappear shortly after I found 3 imperfections on the new MBP.
1.there is a dent on the edge of the front end (see pictures please). I'm so so disappointed and continued setting up the machine.
2.After all the noisy installation from an external hard drive. I realized that the fan is making a unpleasant noise which can only be heard in a quite environment. (I assume they have no way to hear it in store)
3.The speakers' wholes look very strange and looks like it's been used and covered with dust. -see in pictures
So I'm wondering what are my options. Is it possible to get a exchange or refund at the store or through Apple support?
Please help... I'm so screwed and don't know what to do now....
see pictures here:
http://gallery.me.com/epeng#100114
Thanks for any input

Hmmm, someone's "right" to be upset - and - the content over which they are upset, are two different things. I never questioned the Op's right to be upset - he/she can be as upset as they want to be, that is their right.
I'm just saying that my perspective of aesthetic complaints around here has shifted - and they no longer cause me to call into question Apple's quality standards. I can understand wanting something to be perfect - but implicit in the complaint was the statement that Apple committed some harsh violation, which now I think they did not.
So again, I was reading the board and getting quite upset (internally) with Apple - because I love them as a company and I want them to do well - because it's not often that you get "truly" innovative corporate entities in this world - most corporations just want to "homogenize" existence - distilling it down to a few basic variations which are easy to reproduce; all for the sake of the bottom line. The fact that Apple is forcing innovation into the market - causes a corporate strata that doesn't tolerate vanilla design ethics - and I think that is a good thing.
I don't want to live in a neighborhood where the only choices I have for food are, McDonalds, Starbucks, Olive Garden, etc. anymore than I want to use the same old square black laptop with Windows on it.
So now I see that there are imperfections in the manufacturing - but they aren't indicative of serious neglect on Apple's part, which is why said "whew..."

Fact: Motion 3 crashes on the new MBP's. Anybody find a solution yet??

This is bad. I've had to reinstall the operating system 3 times and still no luck. Even the "Genius's" at my local Mac store are baffled.
Has anyone out there figured this out?

Sweet! I cannot wait for mine to arrive this week. i actually went
to the apple store to check it out i can not wait for its arrival. i was very impressed
Im going from a 1.25ghz PB with only 512mb ram to the new MBP with 4gb
of ram. Talk about a major upgrade (yes!!) As a fellow web/multimedia designer
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with having dreamweaver,photoshop,flash etc all open at once. A sImple RAM upgrade
could have solve some of my problems wIth my current PB...but this new machine is just
beautiful and durable and will really help me work easier. My current PB will be my side project and back up for now. 5 years I've waited to upgrade........ and glad i did.

Is Heat an issue on the new MBP's?

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