Is ID exported PDF considered non-editable? (In the case of view&print embedding permission fonts)

Hiya!
I am a graphic designer and I use InDesign 5.5.
I have a question about font embedding when using the InDesign's export as a PDF in "print" format feature.
Many fonts allow embedding into digital documents only for the purpose of viewing and printing.
In addition to this the font EULA's mention that the embedded font may not be used to edit the document.
Is it possible to create a non-editable PDF with embedded fonts?
Is choosing PDF export option "print" the key here, or embedding the fonts as a subset?
Isn't it still possible to edit PDF in Acrobat with touch up text tool? Or use some third party editing program?
OR Is a PDF file - with fonts embedded as a subset - non-editable as such, or at least considered to be non-editable enough?
Or is it just that the file doesn't really have to be non-editable, but it must not be edited...
How do I ensure that? Do I even need to ensure that?
Whole thing seems so controversial.
Hope someone can shed some light into this!!!
-Ahlax-

Ahlax,
There are several separate concepts here.
First, PDF is really a final form file format. It wasn't designed as an editable format for layout such as InDesign's .indd format ane Word's .doc and .docx formats. Although PDF files may be tagged with contextual metadata, typical content of PDF files contains no context in terms of words, sentences, paragraphs, columns, etc. It is simply graphical objects including text fragments, vector artwork, and raster images at a particular place on a page with specified graphical attributes (color, transparency, etc.). As such producing a full PDF file editor first requires definition of what it actually means to edit such a file given the characteristics of PDF files.
That having been said, Acrobat and various third party plugins to Acrobat as well as third party applications provide some degree of editability for PDF files, recognizing that such edits are definitely not at the abstractual level that you get with InDesign. You can “touch-up” text, but doing a re-layout is effectively impossible. In most cases, it is better (in terms of time, effort, and resultant quality) to go back to the source document, make the changes there, and then regenerate the PDF.
Fonts are a totally separate issue. Adobe products will not embed any font into a PDF file unless the font allows for at least preview and print embedding. For PDF forms, Acrobat requires a font to allow editability embedding. However for text touch-up and other edits, Acrobat never uses the embedded font. Such edits are only allowed if the user has the same font actually installed on their system.
In terms of forcing a PDF file to be totally non-editable, that is done by applying security to the file when you export the PDF file from InDesign (the Security tab) or in Acrobat Pro after PDF creation (go to the Security tab under Document Properties (Ctrl-D) to set such security).
- Dov

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