Is It A Mistake To 'Bet' On iWeb

I love the look of iWeb templates and the ease of incorporating streaming video, audio and photos. I also love the fact that I, without knowledge of html, can create a good looking site.
But I'm building a commercial web site that I hope will draw a large number of visitors. I also hope it will be advertiser supported. Am I making a mistake trusting this to iWeb and .Mac?
Do the software and the ISP have the heft to support me? Is anyone else using this as a heavily trafficed commercial site?
If you have easy-to-use alternatives that can handle more tasks and/or volume, please let me know. Also, let me know where I can learn to 'supercharge' iWeb.
I'll be very grateful for any insights.
PowerBook G4   Mac OS X (10.4.5)   My web: www.newsroomconfidential.com

Also, let me know where I can learn to 'supercharge' iWeb.
There are some basic tips on my site www.willg4pb.com, and the Links page leads to more useful sites.
Also see www.iwebusersites.com to see some examples of what other people have done.
Will

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