Is it possible to add surround sound to an apple prores?

Want to screen a Prores with 5.1 surround sound from my mac. Is this doable? Tried using te 'add surround sound' function in compressor but it didnt work. And gonig through FCP didnt help either. We tested at the theatre and they said we needed the sound encoded as Ac3.
Any advice?

Did you mix the audio to be surround? You cannot do this inside of FCP, you need to do this in Soundtrack Pro. Then you export the surround mix to FCP...it will be 5 audio tracks (if Dolby 5.1) or 7 tracks (if Dolby 7.1).
Then go into the SEQUENCE SETTING, click on the AUDIO OUTPUTS tab, and click on LOAD AUDIO OUTPUT PRESET...choose "5.1 monitoring."

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Is it possible to add Surround Sound to a quicktime movie?

We've just finished the color correction on a movie we've been working on.
The video is in the Apple Pro Res 422 HQ format with a stereo mix attached.
We also have a 5.1 surround sound mix. (exported as wav print masters)
The problem is we aren't going to layback to tape for another week or so and we've got a
screening scheduled for Tomorrow night in a small theatre with an HD projector.
Is there a way to encode 5.1 to the quicktime file or are
we stuck with our stereo mix for this first screening?
Thanks so much.

I'm not sure what the system is. The screening is being held in a facility that specializes in
post-production sound. (They were the ones who mixed the film)
They have an HD projector (not sure what type) that they use for mixing.
My plan is to have a copy of the movie in Apple Pro Res 422 HQ (1920X1080)
and also compress a back-up version in H.264 in case the system can't handle the bit rate of Pro Res
Technically they should have the ability to open up the Pro Tools session that they used to mix the film and run that audio with picture... but there's a chance the tech people won't be at the screening
leaving me with the owners who aren't as good with the machines.
I was hoping to make it as easy as possible. The stereo mix is already on the pro res file.
Is there a way to add the 5.1?

Is it even possible to edit surround sound on a Mac Pro?!?!?!

Hello,
I've just been reading this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2924869?
Which among many things discusses the fact that Mac Pros, even through an optical cable, are not capable of exporting live 5.1 audio - they can only playback already encoded 5.1 dolby audio from DVD's for example. Apparently the optical out is a purely stereo affair otherwise. I've finally received my Logitech 5450 speakers (took weeks and weeks) and hooked them up. They can indeed playback 5.1 from a DVD, which is splendid. However, one of the things I was most looking forward to was working on surround mixes in Soundtrack Pro. However, firstly STP doesn't want to convert stereo files into surround (like the video online showed), but only means that the surround panner pans between the two front speakers. (I know there's another thread about that, but the proposed solution of adjusting the collapse slider does nothing).
Secondly, and perhaps more confusingly, if I load an actual 5.1 file from the STP content, it still doesn't play in proper surround - the centre speaker kind of works and I think something's rumbling through the subwoofer, but both of the left speakers and right speakers are 'compressed' into the front one alone - nothing comes out of the rear speakers (they are perfectly connected I assure you!). In other words, f I move the puck in the surround panner so it's solely on the front right, and then over to the rear right, it's exactly the same (coming out the front).
I'm sure there must be a solution. Why would Apple advertise the ease with which one can now mix surround if the Mac Pro (I'm not exactly talking about a mac mini here) cannot export live 5.1?
Something which I'm sure is related, but which I can't solve, is that if I go into Audio MIDI setup in Utilities, and try and 'Configure Speakers', only two channels are recognised, and it won't let me select any of the multichannel options (such as 5.1, which is greyed out.)
Anyone know what I'm going on about? I'm totally lost - not really an audio person in general, but hoping to enrich my short films with some surround magic.
Any help greatly appreciated!
Steve
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Typically 5.1 is mixed, and monitored on a 5.1 monitoring system, which means you need an audio interface and setup capable of outputting six channels of audio.
So of course the Mac Pro is capable, but not without additional multi-channel playback and monitoring hardware.
Encoded surround sound, which you hear on playback from things like a DVD, is entirely different story and the encoding is done at the end of the mixing/mastering process. Sometimes you will encode a mix in a variety of formats, Dolby Pro Logic, DTS etc.

Is it possible to add multiple sound objects to a slide

I am wanting to make slides that contain several "cards". Each card would have a word on it (sight words for elementary students). I'd like to place 2 speech bubble graphics on each card. Students would click one of the bubbles to hear the word read to them (me recording the words). They would click the 2nd bubble if they wanted the word read in the context of a sentence.
Is this possible within Keynote? I know that it's possible within Powerpoint to make any object a sound object--and I believe that I could do more than one on a slide.
However, I've never tried anything like this in Keynote and I'm not sure if it's even possible.
Any ideas?

Keynote is designed primarily for linear presentations, and really doesn't have any capability to do actions (other than hyperlinks) when an object is clicked. If you wanted each card to play the two recordings in order on each click, then you could do this in Keynote, but if you want the second recording to play only if the students clicks on it, then this isn't really possible in Keynote.

Surround sound through HDMI?

All the new Mac models released in the past 12 months are supposed to be able to output multichannel audio through an HDMI connector. I have recently purchased a new MiniMac with an HDMI connector and was really looking forward to playing multichannel sound through one of my two Onkyo home theatre amplifiers. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. For one of the amplifiers (Onkyo TR SX576), the Audio Midi Setup application found an 8-channel device and named it TR SX576, but I was unable to get any sound played through the system.
For the other one, a slightly older model (TR SX506), which has a Samsung LCD attached, the Audio Midi Setup just reports HMDI (0in/2out) with "SAMSUNG" as the name. I can't output via the amplifier... it seems to just pass the audio though.
So, here's a simple question. Is there anyone who has succeeding in outputting multichannel sound via an HDMI cable to a home theatre amplifier? If so, what Mac, what amplifier? What is missing to allow Macs to talk with all home theatre amps via HDMI??

Hi levelg
levelg wrote:
Great. The only problem is that when I define 8channel sound, the amplifier doesn't do any surround sound processing, and so virtually everything that I can play on the Mac only comes out of two speakers . To get surround sound effects (Pro Dolby etc), I have to revert to 2ch-24bit and allow the amp to do the surround effects.
This reminds me of another question. Why on earth can't the Mac's Audio allow you to add surround sound processing directly?
I think the answer to your question is that using the HDMI would require the Mac to have an AC3 codec, which would take up to 6 channels of audio and then compress them into a Pro Dolby data stream which your amp could then decode. (This is actually the reverse of the "AC3 Codecs" that you might find available for download on the web). I believe that this software component would require a separate licence fee, and also might not work sufficiently fast in real time to avoid lip sync problems. It could also result in severe quality degradation in certain channels due to the amount of compression. You can't squeeze 6 channels into 2 and then back again without losing some quality along the way.
The result of this is that HDMI and TOSLINK connections from the Mac can play prerecorded surround sound from a DVD, etc, since this can be passed to the external decoder unchanged, but can't play audio generated on the fly by applications. (At least, that's what I've found - someone else might know differently)
I know from personal experience that it IS possible to buy an external USB 5.1 sound card to connect to a 5.1 audio system, and this will enable on the fly audio generation from applications. The same setup will also play surround sound DVDs, provided you use the alternative VLC DVD player.
All in all, the whole area of surround sound on Macs is extremely confusing! I'm worried that many users either buy the wrong equipment, or they buy the right equipment but then can't figure out the correct way to configure it. Such users inevitably end up frustrated and disappointed.
Bob

New Insignia NS-L55X-10A sound not in sync with surround sound

My new Insingina NS L55X 10A was delivered this morning, replacing a 7 year old 52" Hitachi. Of course they just swapped the TV's, plugged it up and attached the cable coax and made sure it would turn on. I didn't notice until they left, but the sound is out of sync with my surround system. I didn't have this problem with the Hitachi. I spent several hours, replacing all the cables with HDMI, and everything is still the same. Is this a common problem and is there an easy fix? What am I overlooking? Thanks for any replies.

I misread your original post I guess. I thought you were talking about the lipsync being off from the sound when watching tv or a movie.
Yes it is possible for there to be a slight delay when using a receiver and the internal speakers of the tv. Normally its not too noticable but it can happen. Most people don't watch tv with both sets of speakers on, you either listen to the tv speakers or the receiver not both. I have owned several home theatre systems and sometimes there is a delay from one system to other. Normally not very much though.
Out of curiosity can I ask you why you would watch tv with both on? The correct thing to do would be turn your tv all the way down when using an amplified system or better yet disable the internal speakers of the tv if your using a surround sound system.
This may be exagerated to some extent with the new systems utilizing HDMI connections and advanced processing features. One device is processing the signal at a different rate than the other one so you could in fact get some sort of reverb effect by using both. The delay is going to be in miliseconds though. Or it is possible that the surround sound receiver is utilizing some sort of built in delay to some of the speakers. Where as the tv would not employ any delay at all. It could also have something to do with how the devices are connected or switched. One set up could possibly have less delay than the other.

Log And Transfer - HDR-SR12 - Surround Sound

Hi, is it possible to get surround sound via Log and Transfer in FC from Sony HDR-SR12? I have no problems to get video and stereo, but when I record surround on the camera and try to import it to FC, I get "Audio is mixed down to stereo" message in Log And Transfer Import Setting.
Thanks.

Shouldn't be the same size of the file in the camera?
Hey Nicko,
No mate. The camera format is a heavily compressed MPEG4 variant (AVCHD). This is a modern acquisition format, and not a camera native edit format supported directly within FCP. The AVCHD support offered by FCP is through Log and Transfer which transcodes the files to a more edit friendly format that you can work with. The choices at present are AIC and ProRes. You could recompress them again if you wanted to a more compressed (smaller) format, but you'd lose time and quality, and disc space is cheap these days.

How can I export a surround sound movie file using compressor?

I want to create movie files using Motion and Soundtrack Pro that have surround sound. I can make ac3 surround sound files in SOundtrack Pro, I can add them to projects in Final Cut Pro, but I can't see any way to use Compressor to output the movie files with surround sound. The encoding results in plain stereo files. Please help.

HI Tony, you should be able to do this simply within the Compressor.app V4.1.x using the "surround Sound Group" and the shipped setting DOLBY DIGITAL setting. Instead of just adding a file, you need to:
Add a "Surround Sound Group" (control++i or file/add surround sound group or use the "+" plus sign at bottom left corner of Current/BATCH window". You'll get a pane with the channels you need to manipulate.
Click on the tracks Icons L to Rs and select the surround tracks as prompted and navigate through the finder interface. .. simple. WAV, BWF etc
Optionally Add the video object from here too.
Select the BATCH job (top layer with the ORBIT looking icon)) and use the INSPECTOR (right pane) to see what audio objects have been selected and verify location etc.. follow the dialogue (follow your nose)
Then Select the SETTING layer and use the default DOLBY DIGITAL setting and form the "settings/Create Blu Ray/Dolby Digital" and drag it over the batch job setting
Select this and adjust the LOCATION for the target distribution
Select the INSPECTOR AUDIO pane (right pane) and adjust any settings and EFFECTS to your taste.
select the cluster (if one is defined)
+B (submit) the job for the distribution or another master.
This will work fine.. pretty easy.. You'll need to work the audio settings as you like. If you get stuck, use the compressor.app V4.1 help.. its actually good.
Post your results for others to see.
Warwick
Hong Kong

How do I connect my Apple TV to my Philips surround sound DVD system?

I can't seem to get surround sound when watching Apple TV (or when watching live or recorded TV via my Virgin Tivo). I use a three-years old Philips DVD home surround system to get surround sound when I'm watching Blu-Ray (I have connected my Philips Blu-ray and my Philips DVD player without difficulty). But I can't figure out how to get surround sound whne watching Apple TV. I bought an optical cable with an audio jack on one end, to connect to the DVD player and the optical end clicks into the ATV. Still nothing. Any ideas?

The surround system seems to support digital audio - it has settings for HDMI audio and video (even though it doesn't actually have an HDMI port) I bought the optical/audio cable on the advice of a staff member in the Apple Store, but frankly, she didn't see, to understand my problem. She recommended I insert the cable into the "MP3 cable IN" port but that' not working.
I'm probably not explaining myself very well - bottom line: I have a DVD surround system and an Apple TV, so how do I connect them?

Cannot get 5.1 Surround Sound with optic fiber cable (Mini Toslink)

I have a Macbook Pro (Early 2011 Model) and after spending lot of time I figured out that the best way to get 5.1 surround sound output is to connect the MBP to the AV Receiver with the optic fiber cable (Via Mini Toslink Adapter). So after reading all the articles and forums on it, I went and purchased the cable and adapter and hooked up my MBP to my AVR 142 Harman / Kardon receiver.
But now I’m still not able to not get Digital 5.1 surround sound!! Additionally, in Audio MIDI Setup (under Utilities), I can only select Stereo from the drop down menu, as "5.1 Surround" and every other option, such as 7.1 surround are grayed out.
Is there anything that I have missed out in the setup? or do I have to try some other method to get the surround sound??
Please Help!!

ATV definitely supports AC3 DD 5.1... etc, but definately not through AirPlay, only streamed through the inet.
I also found, in the case of Netflix, that the AC3 is preserved in the highest bandwidth mode but not available in the lowest. (frankly i did not test the intermediate bandwidth)
I was quite pleased with the sound and picture from Netflix.
I am not so patiently waiting for AirPlay to support AC3 DD or DDPlus because I record my home video in %.1 surround (AVCHD) and can preserve it through Final Cut Pro and DVD or Red Laser, but cannot use the intended cable replacement (AirPlay) to play them.
Bummer..
I think/hope if more people request surround sound via AirPlay Apple may then follow through on this otherwise good idea.
FWIW
Barry

I have surround sound with my LCD TV. Will my new iPad into an HDML connection be able transmit surround sound via Utube, iTunes or whatever?

I have surround sound with my LCD TV. Will my new iPad into HDML connection and Utube, iTunes etc. produce surround sound?

ATV definitely supports AC3 DD 5.1... etc, but definately not through AirPlay, only streamed through the inet.
I also found, in the case of Netflix, that the AC3 is preserved in the highest bandwidth mode but not available in the lowest. (frankly i did not test the intermediate bandwidth)
I was quite pleased with the sound and picture from Netflix.
I am not so patiently waiting for AirPlay to support AC3 DD or DDPlus because I record my home video in %.1 surround (AVCHD) and can preserve it through Final Cut Pro and DVD or Red Laser, but cannot use the intended cable replacement (AirPlay) to play them.
Bummer..
I think/hope if more people request surround sound via AirPlay Apple may then follow through on this otherwise good idea.
FWIW
Barry

Surround sound check

Is there a surround sound check for Apple TV?   (center, left, right, left surround, right surround, subwoofer)
I was at a friend's house a month ago watching horror musicals and all the singing was coming from the rear speakers.   On other occasions I've heard dialog coming from the left and right and not the center speaker.   I don't own an Apple TV so I don't know how to advise him in this matter.
Second question: What's a polite way for a guest to tell a host that their sound setup is wrong and they need to fix it?   This has been going on for years and my lip is bleeding. (See: http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/bite+your+lip.html)

Here's a pretty good surround-sound test file:
http://www.tfm.ro/win32-projects/test-avi-ac3/
Take it to your friend. His setup is mis-wired.

Export 5.1 Surround sound and stereo workflow?

I have a 60 minute movie with the audio in 5.1 surround - using FCPX surround panner. The audio is in roles of dialog (interviews and voice-over), music, effects and camera ambience. Four roles total for four different types of audio.
I want to export four versions as follows:
(1) Quicktime mp4 (H.264) with surround sound
(2) Quicktime mp4 (H.264) with stereo version.
(3) DVD with surround sound.
(4) Master Prores version with surround sound intact.
Can anyone point me to a good workflow tutorial or any tips. One question is how my four types of audio are split into 5 channels when the FCPX panner uses many speakers for a certain role. Thanks.

I checked forums everywhere and there's plenty about editing 5.1 in FCPX but no one is clear on how to output this audio into quicktime!

ITunes doesn't read 5.1 surround sound

I bought a Mac Mini after an Apple TV because it isn't so open I'd like.
I bought many HD TV Show like Grey's Anatomy.
In France the price is 60€ for the season.
I plug my Mac Mini on my receiver with an optical cable.
And I was surprised when I saw iTunes doesn't read the 5.1 surround sound.
I call the Apple Support Center, and they confirm iTunes can read only Stereo sound.
But, when I read the 5.1 surround sound on my Apple TV, it works very well.
So, II was very angry because after buying a TV show at 60 €, I realized that I could not read the surround sound directly with iTunes.
Gentlemen developers eagerly await an update steep iTunes.

+ 1
I just bought some Lost episodes... when i select 5.1 in iTunes my speakers play an horrible sound...
I'm angry to because i bought them especially to enjoy the surround sound.
I'm using a Macmini late 2009 (which remplace my old Apple tv) with an optical cable...
Message was edited by: lapypool

Has any one come up with a solution to fix the 5.1 surround sound solution

I love Maverick, but i really miss my abiltiy to play music 5,1 surround sound. I have order two difffernt external sound card only to find they not compitible with Maverick. Is there a solution. If not come on Apple give us a hand!
Thanks!
Bob

Hi there Roboco65,
You may find the information in the article below helpful.
Setting up iTunes and your DVD Player for digital surround sound
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4072
-Griff W.

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