Is it possible to charge Zen Vision:M without drivers install

Ok, here's the deal.. I bought my Vision:M, installed the software on my home computer, charged the player up, put my songs on.. Everything went fine. I had to go out of town, so I brought my laptop, thinking I'd use it to recharge my player. However, when I tried to install the software, I found out that it's not compatible with anything other than Windows XP (I have windows 2000 professional on my laptop) So, I tried just plugging my player into the USB port on the laptop anyway. The player turned on, and the lightning bolt came on over the battery. Hooray! But, it never did actually charge. Left it plugged in overnight (about 6 hours) and in the morning it had the same amount of charge as when I had first plugged it in. So, today I visited a couple electronics stores to try to find a car charger.. no luck. Nobody had a charger made by creative labs, and the "uni'versals" I tried didn't work.
I bought and tried two. Both caused the player to turn on when plugged in, but neither actually charged it (the lightning bolt never even came on over the batttery pic) I can't seem to find drivers anywhere for this that will work with Windows 2000. Found a 39 meg file on this site here (the player organizer, I think) but even that wouldn't install, because it said it failed to detect a supported product (my zen was plugged in, but now has no battery at all left) So, sorry to ramble so much... Can anyone help Is there any way for me to charge this thing I'm gonna have a LONG dri've home (400 miles) and don't want to do that without my tunes. Thanks in advance!

I use this one: Griffin Technology iTrip Auto Uni'versal Plus (7259TRIPUNP)http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Griffin-Technology-iTrip-Auto-Uni'versal-Plus-7259TRIPUNP/sem/rpsm/oid/68474/catOid/-2927/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do?Its an FM transmiitter and if you take along the sync adapter and your USB cable you can plug it in to the Itrip and the Zen Vision M will charge as your are listening to it.

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