Is it possible to obtain OCA/OCP without any experience i Oracle?

Hi all,
I have little or none experience using Oracle or any other database systems, but my boss at work has generously offered me a chance to take a OAC/OCP certification (Oracle Database). I work as a sysadmin you might say, on a system that relies on Oracle for datastorage. My duties at work do not include any "tampering" with the database, but I sometimes use SQL (Select queries) or Business Objects to obtain data from the database that i cannot reach in other ways.
I have been looking at the courses Oracle Database 10g: Administration Workshop I Release 2 (and Workshop II), and wonder if this is really enough to be qualified for a job as a DBA or equivalent job.
I do not have the need for any of this knowlege of Oracle databases in the current position i have in the company I work for, but perhaps I could, when the time is right, get another job in this company (or somewhere else).
Is it recommended to have worked with databases before taking any of these certifications, and will I be able to fulfill my duties as a DBA with just the two courses I have mentioned above? Are there any other jobs I could do if i take the courses above?
Thanks in advance for any answers
Ola Jordal
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Good Morning,
In regards to your question regarding the two courses the answer is absolutely not! In this profession staying up on technology is paramount so that means read, read read! You are presently one step ahead of most others because you got access to a real database where others do not. Take advantage of that but just be careful of the statements you issue. Get really familiar with the data dictionary tables then concentrate on the front end tools. If you know the mechanics you won't be so afraid to push a button when called apon. As for me I never took a course, I just studied the appropriate manuals to pass the test for ocp currently I am 8, 9 and 10g certified. What you can do to accomplish this is get a syllabus of the required areas and check it out on the database. Keep taking the test until you pass, then move onto the next one. Once this momentum builds you will not want to stop. Obviously there will be some things you can't do here. In that case use your home computer, crash it etc. Get to know the procedures cold. Now oracle requires you to take courses to get the cert issued. Back in my days that wasn't required. Consider it an investment in your future. Someday someone out there will want to talk with you because you are currently associated with a business that has an oracle db and that is all that matters. At the interview if you answer their questions professionally and competently, you in all likely hood get the position, regardless of the cert you have or not.
Take the man up on it!
regards,
al

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