Is it possible to print from classic?

Hi Folks! I've tried unsuccessfully for 3 years now to print from classic. If I really need to print from one of my OS9 apps I usually just put the file in the OS9 computer (that's why I keep it) and print from there by just unplugging the printer from the OSX computer and plugging it into the OS9 computer. It's not the drivers or the printer as all of that's installed. I suspect is has to do with print spooling and background printing but I've tinkered with this for a LOOOOOG time with no success. Tom

Thomas Bryant wrote:
Hi Folks! I've tried unsuccessfully for 3 years now to print from classic. If I really need to print from one of my OS9 apps I usually just put the file in the OS9 computer (that's why I keep it) and print from there by just unplugging the printer from the OSX computer and plugging it into the OS9 computer. It's not the drivers or the printer as all of that's installed. I suspect is has to do with print spooling and background printing but I've tinkered with this for a LOOOOOG time with no success. Tom
I suspect that you're using an HP inkjet. I have several HP inkjets, and all of them, without fail, simply refuse to print from Classic _using the HP drivers_. (Tiger fixed things so I can print. See below.) In all cases, attempting to print in the background works just fine, right up to where the spool file has been created and is about to actually go to the printer. I then get an error, on some printers, indicating that the file cannot be printer. On others, Classic simply either freezes or crashes. If I restart Classic, it'll freeze or crash again as soon as the print system attempts to print that file. If I delete the spool file, all is fine... except that I didn't get any output. The HPs started misbehaving with Panther. My Epson inkjet still works, so I suspect the problem ain't Apple's fault. The problem goes away if I boot the machine in OS 9... where it's possible to boot the machine in OS 9.
If I try to print from the foreground instead, I just move things up. Now I get the error message, freeze, or crash immediately instead of waiting for the spool file to be created.
That said, printing from Classic is simple... if you are not using a HP or Lexmark non-PostScript inkjet printer and are trying to print from Panther. (Jaguar and HP wasn't a good match, either, but at least sometimes you'd get output.) Given that most (not all, though...) Epson and Canon inkjets and all PostScript devices, even inkjets, were able to print, I suspect that HP's and Lexmarks' drivers have problems.
Tiger fixed the problems. In Tiger, Apple rigged it so that it doesn't matter if the vendors' drivers work or not, or even if they have OS 9 drivers, as long as they have _OS X_ drivers. In Tiger, the default is for printers in Classic to use the Apple LaserWriter 8 driver and pretend to be a PostScript device. The LW8 driver then hands off the output _to the proper OS X driver_, which then prints. You don't get features which aren't in the LW8 driver, but you do get output, including colour output. If you have an Epson inkjet, you can still use the Epson OS 9 driver... if Epson supplies one. It will usually work.
I suspect that you would be able to print from Classic just fine if you were using Tiger. You're using Panther. I suspect that you're not going to be upgrading at this late date.

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