Is it safe to backup clone...

...if I've just had problems with the native drive? Could any problems carry over to the clone?
I booted from the clone, ran Disk Utility, and got the drive working again. I was about to perform my regular backup...but should I? Is it safe?
Message was edited by: Diane Wordsmith

...if I've just had problems with the native drive? Could any problems carry over to the clone?
Yes, since the clone is basically a copy of the first drive. They would either get carried over (if you did a block by block copy) or they would be reflected in the clone if the directory was messed up on the first drive and the files were messed up as a result.
I booted from the clone, ran Disk Utility, and got the drive working again. I was about to perform my regular backup...but should I? Is it safe?
When backing up I boot from my clone, verify the main drive, then boot from the main drive and clone it over since I am now assured (as much as possible) that it is in good condition for cloning. In theory you should have multiple copies of backups of different ages (a la Time Machine) but I don't know many people who own that many drives.
The quandry comes when your main drive does need repairing. There does exist the possibility that repairing a drive may make it worse. Ideally then you don't want to mess up your existing good but dated backup before you are certain the repair has succeeded. You then need a second spare drive so you can clone the main drive with its possible errors so if something does go wrong with the main drive while repairing you at least have a copy of the files as they currently exist, then try to reconcile those files with the previous ones. Maybe this isn't terribly clear, but hopefully you see what I mean. I don't know of many who actually do it that way though. I've only had minor errors on my drive once and I just crossed my fingers and went ahead and repaired it - successfully.

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    Process: iCal [298]
    Path: /Applications/iCal.app/Contents/MacOS/iCal
    Identifier: com.apple.iCal
    Version: 3.0.5 (1270)
    Build Info: iCal-12700000~7
    Code Type: X86 (Native)
    Parent Process: launchd [126]
    Date/Time: 2008-11-10 09:42:24.545 +0000
    OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33)
    Report Version: 6
    Exception Type: EXCBADINSTRUCTION (SIGILL)
    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
    Crashed Thread: 3
    Thread 0:
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    2 libsqlite3.0.dylib 0x034768c5 sqlite3BtreeMoveto + 581
    3 libsqlite3.0.dylib 0x034c65b2 sqlite3VdbeExec + 35090
    4 libsqlite3.0.dylib 0x034c9ea2 sqlite3Step + 386
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    9 com.apple.CoreData 0x01cfaa10 -[NSSQLCore objectsForFetchRequest:inContext:] + 304
    10 com.apple.CoreData 0x01cfa88d -[NSSQLCore executeRequest:withContext:] + 461
    11 com.apple.CoreData 0x01cf997a -[NSPersistentStoreCoordinator(_NSInternalMethods) executeRequest:withContext:] + 522
    12 com.apple.CoreData 0x01cf705b -[NSManagedObjectContext executeFetchRequest:error:] + 587
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    16 com.apple.CalendarStore 0x01a82420 -[CALAbstractView(CALViewPrivate) reset:] + 96
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    22 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02644d93 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 179
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    27 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02644d93 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 179
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    29 com.apple.Foundation 0x02833c88 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:] + 56
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    32 com.apple.AppKit 0x00e66ca5 -[NSTableView sizeToFit] + 166
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    38 com.apple.AppKit 0x00e0f8f7 -[NSOutlineView _postItemDidExpandNotification:] + 150
    39 com.apple.AppKit 0x00f65943 -[NSOutlineView _expandItemEntry:expandChildren:startLevel:] + 1351
    40 com.apple.AppKit 0x00f653f6 -[NSOutlineView _expandItemEntry:expandChildren:] + 66
    41 com.apple.AppKit 0x00e0f4d2 -[NSOutlineView _batchExpandItemsWithItemEntries:expandChildren:] + 469
    42 com.apple.AppKit 0x00e0f235 -[NSOutlineView expandItem:expandChildren:] + 277
    43 com.apple.AppKit 0x00f65e6d -[NSOutlineView expandItem:] + 49
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    45 com.apple.iCal 0x000357ae 0x1000 + 214958
    46 com.apple.iCal 0x0016058f 0x1000 + 1439119
    47 com.apple.iCal 0x000cf7de 0x1000 + 845790
    48 com.apple.iCal 0x001a3d61 0x1000 + 1715553
    49 com.apple.Foundation 0x0282e75c __NSThreadPerformPerform + 476
    50 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02663615 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3141
    51 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02663cf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
    52 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x03c50480 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
    53 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x03c501d2 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 175
    54 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x03c5010d BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
    55 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d7e3ed _DPSNextEvent + 657
    56 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d7dca0 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
    57 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d76cdb -[NSApplication run] + 795
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    59 com.apple.iCal 0x000026da 0x1000 + 5850
    60 com.apple.iCal 0x000a9f8a 0x1000 + 692106
    Thread 1:
    Thread 2:
    Thread 3 Crashed:
    0 com.apple.security 0x006588bb 0x4b9000 + 1702075
    Thread 3 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
    eax: 0x0822e00f ebx: 0x0823270c ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x082e1000
    edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0x0822fff8 esp: 0x96000000
    ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010217 eip: 0x006588bb cs: 0x00000017
    ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000000
    cr2: 0xffe170b0
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  • Is it safe & reliable to clone my drive?

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    Suddenly I thought to myself-- what about Carbon Copy Cloner?  And I wondered, has anyone had experience cloning their actual boot drive and used it as their drive image on the new generation hardware?
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    DO NOT CLONE OS X from a older machine to a newer or different one.
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    Each machine has special hardware drivers that won't work on other models, also newer machines have newer features that are not included in the older machines operating systems software.
    Actually with new machine I prefer setting up all new copies of programs, for instance your older machine might have 32 bit software, a fresh install of the program can install the 64bit version instead, which can address more RAM.
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    How do I securely delete data from the machine?

  • Is carbonite a safe enough backup to proceed with an upgrade from leopard to snow leopard?

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  • Trying to make a clone backup of my internal HD but my iMac no longer recognizes my external HD.

    Short story: I am trying to make a clone of my internal drive using Super Duper! but the 3 TB La Cie external hard drive I want to copy to isn't being recognized by finder or in disk utility. The external hard drive is powered and attached to the desktop via firewire cable. It was properly formatted and made one seemingly successful backup prior to this attempt.
    Specs: I have a 27 in iMac with 2 GHz Intel Core i7 processor, purchased in late 2009. Running Mac OS 10.6.8 with 8GB RAM.  I have a 2 TB internal HD with only 80 GB available.
    Background: I've had few if any problems with this computer but I'm running out of disc space. It's getting a little sluggish and I find that I am force quitting iPhoto more often than I used to. I was getting ready to put a long overdue (less labor intensive) backup plan in place. I had been using DVDs to back up photos and some documents. My computer crashed last week while working in iPhoto. The screen was speckled and banded and I could not restart.  I was able to boot in safe mode and run disk utility. The verification stopped (corrupted files found) and disk utility recommended repair.  I did a safe mode back up with time machine to the 3 TB ext HD. I tried unsuccessfully to run safe mode with networking to attempt online backup with Crashplan. I read something about installing mac os x on ext HD and then dragging files over to it, but DVD player not functional in safe mode. Then I called Apple support to run what I had done by them and to ask for advice before running disk repair.  We tried a PRAM reset but still couldn't restart in normal mode. He said my safe mode backup should be good and to run the repair, restore if necessary and if that doesn't work bring it to Apple for hardware testing.  I read somewhere that PRAM resets need to be done with a USB (not wireless) keyboard so I tried again doing a few PRAM/NVRAM resets.  No change. Later, maybe even the next day, the screen which had been banded and speckled looked normal again. Not sure why but happy.  I restarted successfully. I ran a time machine backup in normal mode to a 5 TB external HD and wanted to make a bootable clone of my mac HD to the 3 TB ext HD (in place of the safe mode backup). The computer crashed again for a little while and I was eventually able to restart. I downloaded Super Duper! but my mac no longer sees the 3 TB external drive. Maybe I did something wrong when I changed drives in time machine for the last backup?  I'm guessing I could crash again at any moment and would love to get this clone made.

    Yes. Formatted correctly. It' s new ext HD and I made a the first back up on it a few days ago using time machine while my computer was in safe mode. When I was able to restart my computer normally I quickly set up a time machine backup to my larger 5 TB ext drive. Also new and formatted for my mac. I was in a rush to get it going before I left for work so maybe I did something wrong. IDK. I can't remember but it did ask me about switching drives vs setting up. Although I don't see why the computer wouldn't see the drive.
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    Is the SMC reset where you detach devices and restart?  My printer, keyboard and mouse are all wireless and right now I don't have anything else connected.
    I'll try another PRAM reset too.
    *  Question:
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  • What to use for backups?  Should I clone the drive?

    I have a 100Gb hard drive and would like to know what software i should use to backup/clone. I'm still relatively new to Macs and the idea of a cloned drive isn't as feasible in the PC world. I ordered an external drive (250Gb) and will use part of it for my Mac (Can I use half for my Powerbook and half for my PC laptop?). The external drive will have firewire.
    My main concern is backups with the ability to boot as an added feature. What plan should I use? I have no problem cloning the whole drive once or twice a month. Should I buy Carbon Copy, Super Duper or Deja vu? Is there something better out there? HELP!

    The main fear I was referring to about the drive partitioning was the possibility of drive failure, which might lose data on both partitions. Whilst loss is a relatively unlikely event, the whole idea of backing up is to give you the re-assurance that your data is safe when that 'unlikely' event happens (which it probably will when you least expect or want it to). Over the years I have learned the hard way that backups should be treated in the most safest and most conservative manner - no shortcuts. That said, the event you described is very unlikely.
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    15" 1.25GHz/12" 1GHz PBs, 2xPPC Mac minis, 12" iBook G4,   Mac OS X (10.4.6)   Cube, 2xTAMs, iPods 2G/4G, iPs, AEBS, AX

  • Basic clone vs. backup question

    I've got Leopard and I'm ready to install. I know I'll need to backup my data before I do. What I'm wondering is this: if I have access to all the apps I'll be reinstalling in Leopard, is there really any advantage to cloning my HD vs. just backing up my user folder? Doesn't the user folder really contain all the necessary items?

    You are correct. You either need another drive or another partition to clone to. Since you cannot install a second drive in an iMac, you would need to get a USB or FW external drive. The good thing would be that after you get to a point where you don't need the clone anymore, you can use the external drive for backups. Or you can partition the external and use one partition to maintain a backup clone that you update whenever you make changes to your system and the other for data backups. Join the revolution. Back up your data. I'll send you a sticker to put on the back window of your car....

  • RMAN backups valid for clone database.

    Hi,
    If we clone the database using rman that clone database will be having different database id, incurnation number and new resetlogfiles.
    so here we can't use source database backup files. if we want to use that source database backup files to clone database what is the procedure to clone the database.
    please let me know.
    thank you very much...!

    899329 wrote:
    Hi,
    If we clone the database using rman that clone database will be having different database id, incurnation number and new resetlogfiles.
    so here we can't use source database backup files. if we want to use that source database backup files to clone database what is the procedure to clone the database.
    please let me know.
    thank you very much...!You can clone/refresh database as
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    4) cold clone (shutdown database, copy datafiles, create controlfile)
    5) whole database export & import

  • I want to backup my photos to a WD My Passport, and also have a PC in the house. Is it okay to format the external hard drive to FAT 32?

    Want to back up/save my photos to an external hard drive both for safety and for portability. I use an iMac, but everyone else in the family uses PC, so ideally I'd like to be able to use the drive on both systems. I have been looking online and it looks like FAT32 may be the answer. As I'm sure you can tell I am new to all this and just wanted to check that formatting the My Passport to this format will be agreeable to the Apple operating system. I have an iMac, iPad 3 and iPhone 5, if this makes any difference.
    Any advice would be appreciated.
    Alex

    I would use a FAT 32 filesystem only for files you will be sharing with Windows.  It is an old, feature-poor filesystem.  Of course that excludes any application files that are not Windows compatible (including Time Machine...).  You should not think of it as a backup drive.
    I would backup all the files on your internal drive onto a separate drive using Time Machine or Carbon Copy Cloner.  It is easier an safer to backup everthing. Also, maintining more than one backup is prudent so have at least two backup disks.  See this thread for more extensive backup advice.
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5377719?tstart=480
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