Is it still impossible to do bootcamp and VMWare or Parallels?

I use bootcamp extensively to run several windows programs, mostly MS Office 2010. I also need to use Office 2011 so being able to switch back and forth between OS X and Win 7 is essential (I do this because I'm a consultant and curriculum developer--not because I'm a masochist). I've used bootcamp for years and it does a pretty good job once you get all the drivers issues sorted out.
I've also used VM ware, but had a couple of bad experiences where I lost my virtual machine and all the data on it. I do backups of course, but it was still really inconvient. Plus the driver situation when doing the virtual thing rather than bootcamp just wasn't quite there yet--another reason to use bootcamp. So for the past 2 - 3 years I've just been resigned to using bootcamp.
But occassionally it's just not convenient to reboot my system to switch from OS X to Windows, especially when all I want to do is check out some quick thing under windows but then quickly get back to Mac--two reboots! On the other hand, when I'm doing a windows client demo or such where failure's not an option, I'd want to be in bootcamp because it feels so much more solid.
I'm wondering if Apple or the virtual OS companies have made any changes that would allow me to have both bootcamp, which I'd use for windows in most situations, AND a virtual machine in OS X that I could use for quick trips to Windows but keep working in OS X without having to reboot. Most of my data files are on dropbox, so even if the bootcamp partition and the virutal machine disk were inaccessible to each other I'd be able to access the files I need.
If the answer is simply NO, you can have bootcamp or virtural machines but not both, then my next question is this: Is either VMware or parallels getting close to being as robust as bootcamp for running windows, or should I just plan to keep on bootin' for another few years?

Hey Bob,
Thanks for the information. My last experience was with VMWare 1 and I don't think this functionality was available then. I downloaded today version 4 and at this point I am running Win 7 within MacOS. Haven't tried rebooting to my bootcamp partition yet or printing or sharing, etc. If it works as advertised though I should be a happy camper.
The import option doesn't strike me as a good one for my situation. I have 500GB on my MBP and 120 GB allocated to my windows bootcamp partition. If I do the import option with VMWare I'd basically need another 120 GB of the total space and then I'd have two unsynchronized windows disks, one under bootcamp and the other under VMWare.
Running VMWare as a Mac application I can see it's a bit slower than running in bootcamp, but I expected that.
This is exciting stuff and I appreciate you taking the time to enlighten me.
Thanks

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Hey,
Would really appreciate your help. So I have MBP mid 2010 with the latest version of OSX Mountain Lion and decided to install Windows 7 on it. I gave it to the professional IT guy, who installed Windows 7 through the latest version of VMWare Fusion. It is not bad overall, but at times incredible slow (which might be because of my slow processor).
So I decided to install Windows 7 through the BootCamp Assistant - USB way. And did the following steps:
1)Format USB, put Windows 7 .iso image on it
2) Installed the latest Windows software through the Bootcamp (step2 tick). However, it said that the latest version would be installed only after Windows 7 is installed (in step3 tick). I clicked OK and moved to Step 3
3) I started Installing Windows and had a few errors (which were solved by repairing the HDD after rebooting in recovery mode), but all went fine until almost the end. Before the bar almost moved to the end my macbook went to reboot and I though it was all done and ready. I clicked the alt at *ding* sound and no USB was detected.
I checked disk utility and the thing was portioned.
I was thinking that MBP doesn't recognize the second Windows installed, and VMWare Fusion needs to be deleted in order to run Bootcamp. I haven't deleted anything, wanted to ask for advice first.
Any one could think of what's wrong? Thank you.

You can only install Windows from a USB in one of these computers:
- MacBook Pro with Retina display.
- MacBook Air.
- Mac mini (Mid 2010 and newer).
- iMac (Late 2012).
Your Mac doesn't support the Windows installation through a USB drive. However, you have installed Windows through a USB drive. What did you do?
You did an EFI installation (or a native installation). Apple doesn't support this option because of the huge number of problems it gives, and you have probably erased OS X (or you erased the Windows partition that Boot Camp created, both possibilities). The error you mentioned in 3) was probably that the Windows installer detected that you have a MBR disk instead of a GPT one, and you erased everything.
First of all, to make sure that you erased everything, hold the Option (Alt) key while your Mac is starting. If you see the OS X partition, start up from it, and make a complete backup of your files with Time Machine.
Then, what I recommend you is to erase the whole drive by starting in Internet Recovery (hold Command, Option and R keys while your Mac is starting), and use the Time Machine option to restore your files

Bootcamp and vmware: same partition?

Let's say I install windows 7 using bootcamp. If then I install vmware under Mac OS, can I "point " it to the same partition where bootcamp installed version of win 7 is? Or, I will necessary have to reserve another piece of disk and install another version of windows7 just to use with vmware ( or parallels).
Thanks.

I used Fusion to access my Bootcamp partition on my previous mac using Windows Vista. The only issue I had (which I hope they have now solved) is that despite installing all the correct patches etc, everytime I opened windows in Fusion after having booted into it via bootcamp windows thought it had been installed on a new machine and wanted to activate every time - I ultimtely had to stick to one form of access to windows as I got stuck in an activation loop which then invalidated my legitimate copy of windows. However, this was about a year ago so this issue may have been fixed.
You may have a specific reason for wanting to use a physical bootcamp partition but I find using windows strictly as a virtual machine is absolutely fine, especially with Windows 7 as it's quite a lightweight operating system compared to Vista. You can also adjust the allocated hard disk space Windows has access to as and when you need to if it is created as a virtual machine which gives you more flexibility than a bootcamp partition.

Bootcamp and VMWare Fusion

I am confused about Bootcamp and Fusion. I installed XP to Bootcamp. Then I installed Fusion and installed XP there (it has been a while and I have forgotten the details). I always run XP from Fusion. It works fine. Recently I decided to boot into XP directly. When XP came up it told me it wasn't activated. So I went back to OS X and then Fusion.
1) Do I have two separate XP installations? Or just two different entry points to the same installation?
2) If I have two installations can I just delete the Bootcamp partition?
3) How would I go about activating the Bootcamp XP installation?
Thank you

If you want, there is Fusion VMware forum. But, you didn't tell Fusion to use the Boot Camp copy/version so while you could have shared one activation key for both, you can't have two separate the way you do now.
If you are happy with Fusion and don't really need the other (better for gaming and more hardware intensive programs) then use Boot Camp Assistant and regain back the partition, don't remove the partition with Disk Utility.

Bootcamp and VMware-Photoshop activation issues -Can someone maybe help

HEy all --I know this is a weird question -but I went to VMware site to their forums and they want all this personal info just to register so I thought I would try this -
anyone running VMware and Bootcamp --well my problem is if I load photoshop on windows under VMware and activate it -it works but when I run windows native under bootcamp --I run photoshop and it says I have to activate it again--If I do that it will lose its activation back on the VMware side. so its one or the other -kinda *****
anyone know what is going on or a solution?
thanks
Matt

I had a look at your code an notice there is no Doc Type
Declaration. That might cause a few niggles....
Try an online validation service:
http://validator.w3.org/
If ever I have coding problems I try that first.
Martin

Windows XP OEM - Bootcamp and VMWare Fusion?

Hi everyone,
I need to run Windows on my MBP and just purchased an OEM version of Windows XP with SP2 from ebay (I didn't even know what OEM was at the time - my fault for not doing some more research). I had wanted to install this in Boot Camp and then run my Boot Camp partition through VMWare Fusion when I needed to run both OS's at the same time - will I be able to do this? Or will I be able to only install it in either Boot Camp or VMWare Fusion (if either)?
If I can only install it in one, which would you recommend? I currently own a copy of MS Office for Windows and was going to run that because I need Excel desperately for the business program I am in and need it to run fast (I've heard MS Office '04 for Mac is sluggish for running intense tasks in Excel because of Rosetta on the Intel Macs).
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If you don't activate Windows natively, you can use and run it with VMware without having to change activation.
Rosetta is slow on startup and needs more memory. If you only have 1GB, might want more. Whether to run VMware or Office, 2GB is more comfortable. Your MacBook Pro should be able to run Office Mac or OpenOffice/NeoOffice.
See if VMware works without partitioning your drive which can be messy (read threads on "partitioning first also").
Using OEM copy is fine and can save quite a bit, as long as it is SP2 and - of course - works - though I would never buy it on ebay given you can get it from Newegg, Amazon etc. I am a paranoid skeptic of what and where software I install came from today.
Numbers doesn't seem to be a full replacement for Excel, but have you looked at NeoOffice?

I am going to buy a mac mini i7 with 3 thunderbolt displays for forex trading. the question is if i use bootcamp and run windows on the mac mini will the displays still run the same way as if i was running it on Lion?

I am going to buy a mac mini i7 with 3 thunderbolt displays for forex trading. the question is if i use bootcamp and run windows on the mac mini will the displays still run the same way as if i was running it on Lion?

No idea if Windows will do it, but you can run Windows without Bootcamp & have OSX available at the same time, which should give you all the Monitors that OSX uses.
Parallels...
http://www.parallels.com/
VmWare Fusion...
http://www.vmware.com/mac

HT4617 Even though thunderbolt is not hot puggable in Bootcamp, is the use of mini displayport to vga/dvi still hot pluggable under Bootcamp?

Even though thunderbolt is not hot puggable in Bootcamp, is the use of mini displayport to vga/dvi still hot pluggable under Bootcamp?

This is Apple support on the subject
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4617
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My MacBook Pro 13" (2012) is running Windows 7 on Bootcamp and there is an issue with the headset I'm using.

My MacBook Pro 13" (2012) is running Windows 7 on Bootcamp and there is an issue with the headset I'm using. I use a cheap Logitech Stereo Headset H130, but since there is only on audio plugin on the computer, I purchased a 3.5 mm 4-pin smartphone audio adapter thingy. That allowed me to put both my the sound coming to my headset & the microphone on my headset onto one wire. Everything worked wonderfully when running the Mac OS since they probably have support for that kind of stuff. The problem is though that once I try to use the same method in Windows 7, the OS doesn't recognize my headset microphone at all, but, instead when recording my voice decides to use the built-in mac microphone. Using this adapter still allows me to hear from my headset, but not use the microphone and that becomes a problem. It might be so that Windows 7 doesn't have support\drivers for that... How should I continue from here on out? Any advice?

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Sorry to bring the bad news.

Can Bootcamp and Parallels share the same Windows applications and data?

I'm looking at getting an Intel iMac which will let me throw away my old PC - Yeah!
I will have a couple of Win apps that I will need to hang on to (Quicken - Quicken for Mac is horrible, but that's another tghread). Anyway, can Bootcamp and Parallels share the same Windows applications and data?
My thought would be to allow my wife to access Quicken from Parallels and not have to reboot. She will only need lightweight access and the overhead of running virtualization wouldn't impact her. I, on the other hand, would want to occasionally boot natively into Windows and run the same application with the same datafile. Is this possible?
Thanks and looking forward to joining the MacIntel world!

Thanks for all of the freplies. I suspected that BootCamp and Parallels could not shar ethe same partition, but wanted to verify. To address some of the other posts:
Re: Quicken vs MoneyDance - I looked at MoneyDance a while back and while it is comparable to Quicken for Mac, it isn't comparable to Quicken for Windows (ergo, Quicken for Mac isn't comparable to Quicken for Windows!). But, as I said, that is a topic for another thread!
Re: Using Bootcamp/Parallels for only one app: I actually have several apps that I still need access to on Windows. I work with many business applications than only run/are supported on Windows as well as receive some complex Office documents which Office for Mac cannot handle. Quicken (for Windows 2007) was just the best example of a consumer app where I could see wanting access from both OS X and Windows.

Tiger on MacBook Drive and Leopard w/BootCamp and Windows XP on External?

I currently have the latest version of Tiger installed on my MacBook's internal HDD (10.4.11) and I have an External USB HDD that has Leopard (I can't remember if it is the latest or not) installed on it.
I currently am using VMware Fusion in Tiger with a copy of Windows XP Pro, and I want to use BootCamp in Leopard to install Windows XP Pro so I can run it without it being inside a virtual machine. I already have a separate partition (currently FAT32) on the external reserved for the copy of Windows, and I thought that when I went to install using BootCamp, that it would then reformat to NTFS for me.
I think it still would do this, but I do not know for sure as BootCamp will not let me install Windows. It comes up with an error saying something like the BootCamp Assistant won't allow it to run off of an external HDD. Would this be that I have to have Leopard installed on one partition (at least) of my MacBook's internal HDD so that it can install Windows (on either the internal OR external HHD - in it's own partition)?
Is there any easy way to partition my MacBook's internal HDD without having to re-install Tiger during the partitioning (and maybe reformatting?) if I have enough space available on my HDD? I am still fairly new to Macs and I have yet had to do anything with reformatting/repartitioning and re-installing the OS, I have upgraded the OS (on my old G3 iBook), and I had done the separate Leopard install on the External HDD (as I didn't want to ger rid of Tiger and still use Tiger as my main OS, haven't been totally ready for the big switch).
I have cleared off lots of space on my HDD the past week, so I have about 47GB available on my 80GB drive. My external is a 100GB currently in 3 partitions - I think, Leopard installed with 37GB left available, 30GB for my Windows -blank, and I think I have a 10-15GB blank misc storage partition.
I have copies of all my documents and files from my MacBook on my network NAS, and I have copies of all applications installed on my NAS as well (the install files that is). So if needed I could reformat and partition and install various OS's where needed, but I would like to try and NOT have to do this just because my MacBook is now used as my main system (my windows desktop is not even hooked up and my windows laptop has been cleared so that I can try to sell it).
So I would like to at least keep my basic web browsers and other daily apps with info installed for use while trying to get stuff set up to use BootCamp to install Windows XP, but I can totally restart from a blank slate if needed.
I just need some help on exactly what I should do (where to find the "options" I need to change through Disk Utility, and what might be the easiest way (or order) to do these things in.
Any other comments or suggestions would be gladly appreciated, I look forward to getting my MacBook (along with an External USB HDD for added space) set up to run a full copy of Windows and finally let me get away from that dreaded OS (on a Windows specific PC). I stopped liking it back when my dad switched to Win 95 from Windows 3.1, and had much prefered DOS over Windows as well.
I just need to have access to it now and then for little things, and to play some of the (slightly older) games that I have that I do wish to play, but not on a system that makes me waste more time trying to fix/upgrade it/tweak it as I get to actually do ANYTHING on it.
So thanks in advance for any help and suggestions...

Hi,
sadly BootCamp does indeed not support the installation of Windows on external harddisks.
Mostly because Windows itself (courtesy of Microsoft) does not support this either.
There is one how-to, that claims to let you install Windows on an external harddisk, see here: http://tubeshards.wordpress.com/2006/12/05/install-windows-to-a-macintosh-usb-dr ive/
But as you can see, it is quite a hassle and not for the faint-hearted
If you don't want to go that way, your only choice is to install Leopard on your internal HD and use the external for Tiger.
Since you have a 'Windows' partition on your external HD, that is big enough, you can use it to clone your internal Tiger partition to that using SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner and after verifying that the new Tiger partition is bootable, clone your Leopard from the external to the internal HD.
After both your OSXs are set and checked, you can then run the BootCamp Assistant from Leopard to install Windows on your internal HD.
And at last you can cleaar-up your external HD of everything you don't want/need anymore.
Regards
Stefan

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And, from the backup you already had made (See Step #1 in the pdf guide) just in case you need to erase and restore.
If you really CANCEL during the partitioning or install, you can leave your drive in a condition it needs to be repaired and/or restored.
Computers: it isn't IF but only WHEN. No one knows what they will have to learn.
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You can, but it doesn't make much sense to use Boot Camp on a server.

Bootcamp and Parallels

Can I run bootcamp and Parallels on the same Mac? How do I run Bootcamp if I've already installed Parallels? Do I have to re-format my drive and start over?

Here's why you want to install both: Parallels accesses your existing Windows installation you did with Boot Camp. You don't have to boot into Windows if you install Parallels after you've installed Windows in its own Boot Camp partition and you don't have to install Windows again. It's much safer because the work you do is saved on the windows partition, not on a virtual drive. Of course, you can still boot to Windows if you need to.
You can open Windows programs right with your Mac apps and switch among them as if they were native by using Parallels. You will have to activate Windows again for some reason, but it's painless unless you've installed it more than twice in which case you have to call Microsoft.
Boot Camp is free of course and simply partitions the hard drive, you don't "run" boot camp as ZooCrew already pointed out, you actually boot to windows on startup. You do "run" Parallels which accesses your windows partition. Quite slick. I use it for Quicken because the Mac version blows hard, and another program I have to use for work that is Windows only for now.

Using Bootcamp and Fusion on SEPARATE installations

So if I install Vista on bootcamp, and then install fusion as a new installation with another 32 gb of space, will it let me activate and use both of them? Basically I want to be able to use photoshop on vista so I can utilize the graphics card and full hardware, but still use office in os x through fusion... will there be a problem, like will it block me from using vista because im using it on "two" computers or not? I don't want to just use the fusion on the bootcamp installation because then every time I go between the two I will have to reactivate
PS This Windows activation stuff is getting ridiculous, it's time for a change

Open Boot Camp Assistant (in Utilities) print out the instructions, setup Windows on its own partition, insall and run Windows natively, not much difference than on any laptop.
Mac 101: Using Windows on your Mac via Boot Camp
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1461
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
Helpful Apple Support Resources (Forum Overview)
Boot Camp Support
Boot Camp Manuals
Forum that is devoted to Windows Boot Camp:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/windows_software/boot_camp

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