Is it supported to connect Exchange 2013 Mailbox using Exchange 2010 CAS in Co-existence?
Hi Team,
I am in the phase of upgrading Exchange 2010 to 2013, and introduced 4 MBX and 2 CAS of 2013 servers in co-existence.
Only one production mailbox of 2010 moved to 2013. The owa of the mailbox moved to 2013, is working OK internally coz only internally configured, but when I configure outlook using 2010 settings, it got configured but when I open outlook it doesn't
open and throws an error of some "cannot open set of folders".
Is it supported to connect Exchange 2013 Mailbox using Exchange 2010 CAS in Co-existence? because I havnt configured 2013 CAS servers yet.
Kindly share some KB or tip. Any help is appreciated. Thank You.
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I'll change Adam's wording slightly - you *MUST* install a CAS 13 server into every site where there is a MBX 13 server.
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Hello,
I've installed Exchange 2013 into Exchange 2010 infrastructure
[ single Exchange 2010 server; single AD site; AD = 2003 ],
and moved one mailbox [ Test user ] to Exchange 2013.
When I login internally through 2013 OWA to access mailboxes on 2010, then proxy works fine.
When I login internally through 2010 OWA to access mailboxes on 2013, then a message appears:
Use the following link to open this mailbox with the best performance: with link to 2013 OWA...
What is wrong ?
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Based on my knowledge, CAS proxy can only from later version to previous version.
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Thanks Rhoderick, issue still persists
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In my Exchange 2010 Lab Setup, CAS proxy is not working properly
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Name RpcClientAccessServer
DB1 casarray.labbites.co.in
DB2 casarray.labbites.co.in
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I have 4 Exchange servers.
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2 X Mailbox servers
The mailbox servers are in a DAG. That works fine and replication happens between them quite happily.
The 2 Cas servers are in a NLB and seem ok with that. However, if I reboot one of the CAS servers then some of my users get prompted for their credentials. If you try re-enter the credentials then it just keeps coming up asking for the password. If they close
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Staging the NLB cluster Static port change of Exchange 2010 CAS or do it all in one day ?
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Here is the server deployment in my AD domain:
Email flow and Outlook client connection go through the NLB cluster VIP email.domain.com.au which is served by the following server:
PRODHT-CAS01 (HT-CAS Server Windows NLB node 1)
PRODHT-CAS02 (HT-CAS Server Windows NLB node 2)
Public Folder access through Outlook client goes through the following servers:
PRODMBX01 (Stand-alone Mailbox Server 1) no DAG
PRODMBX02 (Stand-alone Mailbox Server 2) no DAG
Can I make the changes first on the first stack of Exchange Server set as below first:
PRODHT-CAS01 (HT-CAS Server NLB node 1)
PRODMBX01 (Stand-alone Mailbox Server 1) no DAG
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PRODHT-CAS02 (HT-CAS Server NLB node 2)
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would that cause the NLB or user email access problem?
Do I have to make the changes all in one day for those four servers followed by the reboot?
Reason of changing: The hardware load balancer (Riverbed) requires to have static RPC port to work properly.
This is the article to change the Static port in my NLB cluster Exchange HT-CAS server role on Exchange Server 2010 SP2: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/864.configure-static-rpc-ports-on-an-exchange-2010-client-access-server.aspx
Thanks in advance.
/* Server Support Specialist */All the servers behind the load balancer must be the same.
You can change the stand alone MBX server's RCA port as that traffic is not load balanced.
Changing Exchange is straight forward, just be careful to enter the registry keys correctly and then check AB and RCA is listening on the new static ports after you restart the services.
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Rhoderick,
Many thanks for the suggestion. My goal here is to minimize any impact / email service downtime to the user while configuring the static ports.
1. Do I have to dissolve the Windows NLB cluster after the static port configuration on both HT-CAS servers or can I still keep the NLB cluster?
2. "All the servers behind the load balancer must be the same." Do you mean do I have to do the static RPC port the same day for all server set ?
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