Is Logic 9.1 Universal Binary still?

Might seem like a daft question given that L9 was unofficially UB and does run, but can any PPC users confirm continued unofficial support with 9.1? I'm seriously thinking of overhauling my G5 and going Leopard/L9.
Scary.

Hi,
Please don't lecture me on how OS X works. I know all of this, I'm a Mac veteran. You (and the other poster) didn't get the spirit of what I was saying, which is that the pre-X Mac OS (7 to 9) were much more transparent and user-tweakable for non-devs like me, with 7.1.2 as the most stable. Of course it also had drawbacks yada yada, nothing is ever perfect, but then again the newest is not necessarily the best, especially since so much of the power computers have gained over the past decades seems to have been invested in looks, and making things moronproof (which is a useless ideal anyway).
It would be nice to have the option to run a more tweakable system. Even if they only sit on my HD and don't influence the performace, I like to be able to throw out unused drivers, assistants (like Spotlight and its disruptive helpers, or that "DVCproHDmuxer" thingy that surfaces in every Logic Pro crash report). I do not work with DVC pro at all, so why is this installed? Why does my window need a 'genie in the bottle'-effect? Useless waste.
Why do I need a superspec video card to run Mainstage, where it doesn't ask for a superspec audio interface (which would make sense for a Music app)? It is like a CAD program demanding a 24 bit audio interface.
Things could be made a lot better (=leaner, smaller, quicker, cleaner) by Apple, especially for their loyal user base: graphics, video and audio professionals.
Now all there is is Diablotin...
Just my opinion, discussion ends here for me.
regards, Erik.

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Old school, has anyone here been able to install and run Logic Pro 9.1 on a dual 1.8 G5 PPC? I know LP9 is not officialy supported on non Intel CPUs, But 9.0.0 and 9. 02 are ok on the G5 PPC as it is universal Binary, while I hear 9.1 wont work

has anyone here been able to install and run Logic Pro 9.1 on a dual 1.8 G5 PPC? I know LP9 is not officialy supported on non Intel CPUs, But 9.0.0 and
9. 02 are ok on the G5 PPC as it is universal Binary, while I hear 9.1 wont work.

ok thanks, that's what I tought,looks like apple machines are only good for two - three years, the software developers are ahead of the hardware to a certain point, love macs but this is forcing us to buy new macs just to keep up with development. There was a time it was the opposite.
By the time we get up on new stuff it's time to change again. Gotta be rich to deal with macs ...LOL

Will non-universal-binary Logic+plugins run on an Intel Mac?

Hi,
this may sound like a dumb question, but I haven't found a straightforward answer on this question yet: will my Logic 7.1 (not Universal Binary) install on an Intel-Mac?? Our local Mac store expected that Rosatta will take care of everything, and that only performance will suffer a bit.
That would mean that all non-universal-binary plugins would run, too??!!
Just curious...
Thanks!
Regards,
Jaap
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Hi Jaap,
In a word, nope!
It seems you're more informed than your local dealer, :o)
Rosetta will not handle the plug-ins & third party (AU) need the (U B) upgrades. You need the 7.2 (U. Binary) to run logic on the new Intel machines.
Best regards,
Jorge

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I found an easy way back to Director 11.5 though...
By Colin Holgate:
There isn't a way to save as an earlier version, but my article from 13 years ago still holds true:
http://www.director-online.com/buildArticle.php?id=1034
The article tells you how to find two copies of a particular pair of numbers. For D7 those numbers would be 057E, D8 would be 0640, and D8.5 is 073A. Changing the two places where those number are will make the DIR open in older versions of Director.
The numbers for D11.5 are 0782, and for D12 they are 079F. So, track down the two places where 079F are (which are 18 positions apart) and change them to 0782, and you'll be able to open the file in D11.5.
Worked wonderfully and mysteriously. Big thanks to Colin Holgate, saved me hours. And shame on Adobe that something as basic as a universal binary does not work. And that their support does not respond to this, either!!!

Universal Binary FCP does not start?

Hi all and merry Christmas,
I searched the forum already, found various related posts but still no cure for my FCP start-up problem, so hopefully some of you can help me:
I switched from a G5 to a MacPro and I admit, I made my life easier by using a firewire cable to transfer all my G5's settings to the new MacPro. I did work all fine, from my user account to mail to whatever, all cool. Updated my audio system (Logic, UAD-PCIe card, RME FW800 etc., all fine)
Next I sent my FCP Studio DVDs to Apple to get the Universal Binary Crossgrade. These DVDs serve as an update from what I understand. I ran the complete update routine from these DVDs and now all FCP Studio apps work perfectly, only FCP itself won't start. All I get is the FCP app alias making one single jump in the dock. It's a new alias, btw
First I tried to manually get rid of all the Prefs, moving them to trash without deleting. No change.
I did download FCP Attic. Couldn't find any FCP 5.1 prefs, but 5.0 prefs. Clicked trash, no change.
Next I downloaded FCP Rescue. Great name, but all I get is a "no settings, no backup" message.
I read this suggestion in another thread, that the best thing to do would be to erase and re-install the complete OS incl. all apps. Isn't there any other way? I mean, from Adobe's creative suite to the aforementioned audio apps to whatever... it's all fine except FCP.
But as I don't get any error logs, no splash screen, not even the "rotating rainbow" (don't know the right english name...)
So far I did not try to re-run the FCP Studio installation, maybe this is an option?
Thank you in advance for your help,
Joern
MacPro, 2x2,66 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8) 5 GB Ram
MacPro, 2x2,66 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8) 5 GB Ram

Hi Jerry,
thanks for the fast reply. but so far it did not work. I added a new account with admin privileges, switched users, but still no reaction from FCP. Actually, first I logged out as admin 1 and logged in as admin 2. Or should I take away my privileges from admin 1 first? And should I maybe take away the rights from user/admin 1, so that only the new user has full privileges?
I forgot to say I also used disk utility to check and repair permissions on the disks. Again no luck.
Any plan b at hand? Apart from erasing & reinstalling the OS? ...

Lion Upgrade and Universal Binary Plugins

Hey All,
So I read the apple press release about the Lion upgrade and if memory serves correctly I read that, with Lion, Apple will be discontinuing support for Universal Binary applications.
I'm currently running Logic Express 9.1.4 on Snow Leopard and I have a few Universal Binary AU plugins.
If I do upgrade to Lion, will my Universal Binary AU plugins also cease to work when I run Logic on Lion?
Additionally, will an upgrade to lion require me to run another series of upgrades in order for my system, and all my other apps, to run smoothly?
Not really complaining about this, just weighing the options before I decide whether to upgrade or not

I read about the Universal Binary support as well - don't remember where, did some googling. I'm not a big Apple/computer tekkie, but I have a feeling that going to Lion will be like the OS9 to OSX transition, but as if Classic Environment never existed.
I'd make the Lion decision based on your current hardware and software - is it working now? Or are you looking at some future release that only Lion will support? I bought Macromedia Studio (Academic) 2004 for about $200 or less back then, it's $529 now on Amazon, no cheaper/Academic version available that I can find (well, it's Adobe now.) Final Draft is screenwriting - basic word processing - no need to shell out close to $200 for a new version or a $99 upgrade that does the same thing on Lion (though after fighting with the company about their dropping support for my version, I was offered a cheaper upgrade - still, no need.) Also, MS Office works fine on the mini - again, basic word processing (I only and rarely use Word) seems crazy to upgrade, based on trying a new OS.
My G4 tower (I believe currently running 10.4.x) worked for my needs for what, 8 years? Still does all I need, I'll hold onto it, but chokes up a bit on Garageband, Final Cut 4 drags (but I never use it.)** I upgraded to Mac mini for the Intel processor (for Netflix streaming and any new Intel apps I may desire) and I can see this one with 10.6.8 lasting me for years, since it's running all my old apps and any that are available right now.
Good luck, whatever you choose, but I still say don't do it unless it's a dual boot situation.
**These are hardware issues, OS was never an issue except, of course, for the very first OSX.

Universal Binary..Once and For All

I know this topic has been discussed, but I'm still a little confused. I want to put this issue to rest, at least from my perspective.
If you install a Universal Application via download or CD/DVD does it install an application that would be able to run of BOTH an Intel or PPC Mac. I know that the file size isn't exactly doubled, but does it still add extra unneeded code.
I'm on a PPC Mac and I want to know if I download a Universal App am I getting the Intel version too. I really don't want this because I want my drive to be a slim as possible.
If the Universal App does install both version (which I think was clearly evident in the huge increase in size of iLife '06 and iWork) is the only way to get the Intel version off to use "Trim the Fat".
I don't really want to get into the nitty gritty...I just want to know if unneeded code is being installed and taking up space on my iBook because of this new Universal App thing.
Thank you so much.

I don't really want to get into the nitty gritty...I just want
to know if unneeded code is being installed and taking up
space on my iBook because of this new Universal App thing.
The answer is yes.
Universal binaries typically include both PowerPC and x86 versions of a compiled application.
Universal binaries are usually substantially larger than single-platform binaries, because two copies of the compiled code must be stored. The size of the resulting universal binary is usually not double (roughly a 30% increase in size) as a significant portion will be resources which are shared between the two architectures.

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I have some spareparts from my first car, 2th and 3th car, 5th and 6th car... from the 70s and 80s and 90s and we can never know - perhaps one day we need it.... I never dit use one single part yet, because the new cars use more smart devices and parts - the old will never fit... but still I keep all this stuff. My new car have to stay outside, there is no space left in my garage or the carport, because all the spareparts.
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HELP!!!--- Canon Pixma MG5420 Mac OS X 10.5.8 PowerPC Universal Binary Print Driver...... ---

Greetings Everyone!
I am a bit miffed at the moment.
I purchased a Canon Pixma MG5420 Print-Copy-Scan machine with the intention of using it with my Power Mac G5, PowerPC, Mac OS X 10.5.8.
But alas. Apparently it is not to be. The box in which the printer came cleary displays the Mac Logo and the Universal Logo, the Universal Logo looking like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_binary
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Let's FLAG this issue and find out WHY!
NEED HELP!
....and could use working drivers!

IT"S OFFICIAL!---> Canon has stopped porting any of their drivers to the Universal Binary format for MAC OS X which is a combo installer for PowerPC and Intel machines.
The MG5420 MFP that I have was released in December 2012 and they *said* that I was the first person to "complain" of this issue!....REALLY!?!?....wow...so there is no one else out there using the PowerPC platform??? I find the G5 (model M9592LL/A) to be quite adequate and useable for what I do! I guess the engineers couldn't be bothered to "port" it to the PowerPC platform! Listen Canon, if you don't think the PowerPC is still useable, go visit http://www.macofalltrades.com/ and watch the "trend" of what sells and what doesn't.....or maybe you should call another authority of Apple products http://www.macsales.com/ and ask what volume of PowerPC compatible parts they sell?!
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What do you think?!.....Thoughts?.....Ideas?
Oh, and Canon.....get your "engineering" team and your marketing "box makers/printers" in Thailand to get their "info" to correspond and be accurate....that way there will be no false advertising and misrepresentation of Apple's "Intellectual Property" and "breach of contract!.....You darn well know they have an "Image" to uphold!
https://developer.apple.com/softwarelicensing/agreements/maclogo.html
CHEERS!
PS--you better watch your back Canon on this little faux pas!....Epson might use this to their advertising advantage!....they still support Universal Binary!

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X
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