Is my MB dying - SATA ports/Ethernet probs

Hi Guys,
Since I had this MB in December, I have "lost" 4 hard drives, now one DVD-ROM and one of the Ethernet ports played up the other day.
Right, now for the detail. BIOS version 1.2, MSI Eclipse SLi.
Up until now, I thought it was crappy Samsung disks as these were the ones failing (Never used them before, and they are cheaper than most other drives, although that's not why I bought them!), but tests in other PCs showed them to be OK. Now it is a 2 week old Seagate drive that has apparently "failed". However, the coincidence this time is that when I booted the PC and it classed the drive as "failed", one of the ethernet controllers also kept showing as "failed", it constantly kept showing up and disappearing from the device list, and also one of my DVD drives has stopped appearing in the device list (although it opens and closes). 3 different devices all failing at once? Seems too much of a coincidence to me.
Has anyone else had problems with RAID drives failing? If I put a new disk into the machine, then the Intel RAID controller sees it, allows me to add it and happily does a rebuild when Windows starts. Until it "fails" again!!!!!
Also, I have Corsair 1600 memory which runs at 1333. If I go into the BIOS and set it to use the XMP progile, Windows crashes during boot. Don't know if this is related?
If I update the BIOS or any other board-level F/W, will I have to rebuild my RAID sets (and therefore risk losing my data and another week to rebuild all of the OS & software?)

Different ports. The hard disks on Intel RAID ports 3,4 & 5, the DVD (which has just started working again) on the SI controller.
And yes, the "failed" disks do work in another chassis....

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Introduction
Have you ever wondered what those numbers “2.5-3-3-8” or “2-2-2-5” and so on mean? Or have you seen words like “CAS” and “tRCD”? These are the timings for the memory, or the speed at which it processes certain commands. This whole settings area can be quite confusing and you have to have a certain knowledge of it, if you plan on overclocking. But some of you may just be plain curious as to what they are.
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